For laptop, AMD A8-3530/HD6750 crossfire or I5-2410/HD6770, Which is better?

Anyone know Which is better, AMD A8-3530/HD6750 crossfire or I5-2410/HD6770? For laptop HP DV6. THANKS

 

Right now? i5+6770.

When AMD drivers mature? Probably A8+6750, though you might be waiting a while.

 

ATI still not improve their drivers? wow

 

I think he means AMD CPU's and how they are still total crap vs. Intel CPU's. Also, I think he used the term drivers wrong. The 6770M is always going to be better than the 6750M and the latest Catalyst series of drivers are really good. I totally recommend them.

 

I think he means the hybrid crossfire solution, that is currently not working that well

 

The test setup reviewers used did not get good enough scores in hybrid vs dedicated only.
Just like Intels Sandy Bridge gfx for Linux, it improves over time.
Intel + IGP setup only "win" in Starcraft 2 and similar CPU demanding games / programs.
But i see your Intel offer does come with a dedicated AMD GPU making it a sweet deal compared to only IGP systems.

Piece of turd Norway still cant get any Fusion chips yet so i cannot comment on prices or performance, but if the AMD spec is reasonable priced i would at least consider it an option.

Probably end up recommending Llano to my brother anyway.
A desktop AMD Phenom 2 x3 2,6 GHz plays games just fine and it did unlock into a inexpensive quad.
Yet to hear complaints about driver errors or BSoDs either.

 

The hybrid crossfire 6750m+6620g should theoretically be as powerful as a 5850m or a 460m, but in the test review units the crossifre wasn't working properly and the results were not as expected, though AMD claimed that hybrid crossfire will work better on release units, but i would stay away from it until it is sorted out, so wait for a review of a release laptop to find out if they sorted it out as they claimed.

 

This is what I meant.

If the $50 price difference doesn't matter, TC is better off getting the i5+6770m combo because it will have better performance for quite a while (AMD dual graphics is new and will probably take a while to mature).

And even then, the performance advantage of the A8 + 6750 advantage will be offset by the weaker CPU and inconsistent scaling, which will result in worse performance in some games, even with improved drivers.

 

The price difference is $50 and a free upgrade blu-ray, which does not matter. But except graphic card, A8 is quad-core and I5 is dual-core, is there a acceptable difference?

 

Not really. I'm pretty sure they use the same chassis so everything else should be the same.

 

Is there any real reason to believe that better drives will make a 6755g2 perform anywhere near a gtx 460m?

Just seems really unlikely to me

 

yes, there is, since the the crossfire is not working correctly

 

Currently the llano machine you are looking at gets 5500 in 3D Mark Vantage(see link at bottom), same as any other laptop with a 6750m and no hybrid crossfire but if hybrid crossfire works properly that setup has the potential to beat a 5850m and reach GTX460m levels.
http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3277233;jses...mv/3277233?key=RfqxKVfrPjvkXSMTx2FDbebMcLeByJ

 

that is impossible, two levels.

 

two levels?
it must be notebookcheck ^%$^%$^%$ up again

 

at first I thought notebookcheck was amazing

after a while i finally realized how wrong a lot of their benchmarks are, how arbitrary their ranking system is, and how inaccurate some scores are

if you want to guage a laptop part you have to find specific benchmarks on the web

there's no way this thing is going to match a 460m, anyhow

 

Yup, no chance at all

 

This is what hybrid crossifre is capable of if it works -


While that is for just one game, but if the 6630m somehow beat a 460m we can assume that the 6750m will be on par with it in most games.(it could just be a fluke that the 6630m performed better). Hybrid crossfire should give boosts of atleast 30% if and when it works properly

 

To be fair you copied and pasted the only benchmark out of 10 that was favorable to the crossfire

Here are the rest: AnandTech - The AMD Llano Notebook Review: Competing in the Mobile Market

 

With perfect scaling it could reach the GTX 460M, but perfect scaling is hardly likely. I think, best-case scenario, we might eventually see the IGP be able to add 50% of its performance, which would make it about 10% faster than the 6770M. It will likely be closer to 30% soon enough, though, which would put it pretty much on par with the 6770M. With the stable overclocks currently being achieved on both cards, the 6750M and 6770M, the 6620G/6750M could take a lead of as much as 25-30%.

 

Well to be honest even the benchmark i posted does not seem to be fair, the 460m has got a really low fps for some reason, but my point is that with hybrid crossifre we might be able to see an increase of atleast 30% but if 80-90% scaling is achieved then it may be able to hit 460m levels. I remember reading somewhere(on these forums, was said by a fellow member so can't be sure if it is correct) that 80-90% scaling is what AMD is hoping to achieve

 

In the chart you posted, A8 Xfire is better. But the point is A8 crossfire with what kind of graphic, maybe 6775G2 will achive such an aim.

why HP only provide 6750 for DV6Z,

 

They are putting the 6630m and 6620g in crossfire

With the 6750m and the 6620g we might see something closer to a 460m

I wish there was 80-90% scaling but experience tells me not to get my hopes up

 

do you know the price difference between two cards? if it is true, NVIDIA is going to bankruptcy in near future.

 

no they arent the crazy korean, albeit an idiot is not a complete one. They are diversifying using the ARM soc platform, however the performance of the tegra 2 compared to the s3 solution is quite behind in terms of power

 

there's not only a huge price difference, there's a huge size difference (portability), temperature difference, and battery life difference.

this makes the notion of Xfire llano catching up to a 460m all the more improbable