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    GPU Not Throttling.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Yiddo, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Yiddo

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    Can anyone help me with my GPU thottling problem or advise if this no longer happens.

    I have the below card running SLI (sig) the clocks are running at full all the time and do not downclock or throttle using the other two performance setting it just stay on peformance setting 3 and runs hot the whole time.

    I notice that Nview is not running and that it no longer runs on Windows 7 64.

    Can anyone advise how I can setup the GPU to throttle automatically as I do not need it running on full all the time.

    Im using the latest Nvidia drivers. I have checked the usual place that allowed you to change the performance setting to 2D, 3D and 3D performance but it no longer exists on this driver.
     
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    Have you tried using any of the typical nvidia overclocking utilities to forcefully downclock the card?
     
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    Yes and when I unlock the clocks I can downclock it but when using the original drivers with my laptop there was Nview that automatically did this for me I believe but this no longer works on Windows 7 with the latest drivers.
     
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    Why did you need the nView software to downclock your card?

    I'm using the latest drivers and my card automatically downclocks as soon as it notices that the load on the GPU has dropped.
     
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    Agreed, you don't need any 3rd party software to make your GPU downclock, I suggest you uninstall Nview and your current drivers, boot into safe mode and clean the left over drivers using driver sweepers, boot into normal mode and install the drivers again.
     
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    I have tried everything and still im stuck in 3D Performance. My GPU should automatically downclock right?

    I have checked all control panel settings and updated the drivers uninstalled and reinstalled. When i take the power plug out it does downclock to 2D?

    So i assumed this may be a Power4Gear issue and checked the settings and advanced settings but they are all the same. I have checked powermiser as well and this does not seem to be affecting it. Changing it to max battery saving will downclock on battery but not with power cord in.

    Any other ideas? I dont really want my GPU running at max idle temps all the time and cant run it on battery as it only lasts an hour. I have also tried to manually downclock but most programs only take me down to like 60% and do not offer a feature to unlock the lowest settings or the voltage which is the most important. Anyone know any programs that do? Rivatuner was no help either this would not allow me to select a different performance setting.

    Thanks
     
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    Well, as a temporary measure, you could flash the vBIOS with 3D performance settings that match the lower performance levels to see if that will cap it.

    At this point, I'd seriously consider going the scorched earth route and repartitioning/reformatting/reinstalling the OS in order to rule out any driver/software conflicts. If you install a driver version that you know is good and hasn't had this problem before and it kicks back up to 100% after you reflash the clocks to the typical 3D performance level I'd believe a piece of hardware on your card has gone bad. You're only option at that point would be to try it in another system. If it does the same thing you know the card is bad, if it doesn't then you know the problem is somewhere on your system motherboard.
     
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    Thanks for the reply as i said it does automatically downclock when on battery and upclocks to 3D performance as normal but when plugged in it will not downclock. OS was reinstalled a while ago and I have the same problem and as the cards are quite new I doubt they are damaged as I have no other problems with them.

    I have checked all the settings I can think on with the power cord in is there something in the Registry that changes it? Or could it be Power4gear is causing the problem?

    Im not learned enough to try flashing and I couldnt afford a brick as im losing my job so will leave it as it is otherwise :(
     
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    Researching today it appears that Powermiser does not have an option in windows 7 x64.

    Can anyone recommend the best drivers for my setup? I believe that using older drivers allows the automatic downclock to work but dont want to spend all day installing each one till i find one that works. Im currently using the latest 260 beta drivers.
     
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    Think you might have hit the nail on the head there I installed the Powermiser switch last night and it confirmed that it was on for AC power and battery. I will try this as soon as I get in and have a +1 waiting for you if it works!
     
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    : ( Installs run and applys fine no BSOD or anything however nothing changes the clocks stay the same even after I have turned on throttle or min perf in Powermiser and applied it.

    It is updating the registry but still not applying it? Cant understand it ive tried running in admin etc rebooting and doesnt make a differerence.

    If i pull out the AC its fine both cards downclock and upclock as they should do its only when on AC power.

    +1 for your help any other ideas please let me know

    EDIT: just tried applying under MIN perf and it works however it only underclocks one card? Any ideas? Still no Throttle mode.
     
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    hmmm, you have been overclocking your card, haven't you? I can't help thinking it's your OC that might interfere with the powermizer as it happened to me before, my 9800M GS sometimes won't downclock when I overclock with Nvidia system tools. I would try to cancel the OC and set it to the factory frequency, then change to a different driver and see if it downclocks.
     
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    Nope im not overclocking sig clocks are base clocks.
     
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    Since when did it find your GPU always work at full speed? If you are not overclocking, it's still very likely a driver related problem. I have heard some Nvidia cards(like GTX260M in asus G51/71) are very picky about drivers, they simply won't downclock with many drivers. Have you tried changing a lot of drivers? If you haven't, then you should try some official drivers like WHQL 196.08 released by Microsoft update, they are very stable and should be problem-free:

    Windows 7/Vista 32-bit:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...424ad47b20.cab

    Windows 7/Vista 64-bit:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...42c269c3bd.cab

    Windows XP 32-bit:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...a0bc62bc0d.cab

    Windows XP 64-bit:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...1f5a67eaaf.cab

    Don't forget to clean the left over stuff in safe mode before you start installing new ones.
     
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    Not sure where you heard this, but Powermizer absolutely does work in W7 x64.
     
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    Yes I have heard that powermizer wont work correctly in W7 X64 with any of the updated drivers as well. But it does work as when i installed the Powermizer switch it confirmed it was on just would not do anything when i changed the settings.

    I tried reinstalling back to factory drivers way back to 1.68 nvidias and it does downclock to 3D and 2D as it should so your right it must be the drivers. These are the only ones that work I tried the next ones up and nothing. I guess they come from Asus directly and good old Asus never update their own drivers so I will just have to put up with running in performance mode.

    On the up side I heard most of the problems with my GPU chipset was the constant cooling and heating which causes it to break so I guess its better the way it is anyway.

    Thanks for all your help guys.