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    GPU that can play 4K games at 60FPS/120hz/Ultra settings

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Penchaud, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Penchaud

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    Hello,

    I've been out of touch with the latest gaming updates for a long time now and would like to know where we are.

    Is the power available to push/play games on the above specification above?
     
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    4k 60fps on ultra settings is still very hard for a single card, even for the mighty 2080Ti on some games. So you might still need a dual card setup for the games that can make use of it, like 2x 1080Ti.
     
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    Also, 4k 120Hz monitors are still not readily available and feasible, this is new tech that shoud be introduced gradually over the next few years and will bring the price down..
     
  4. Penchaud

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    I thought Asus and Acer had already released 120hz monitors?
     
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    Yes they are available, but only very few models and very expensive. I frased it all wrong giving the impression they did not exist, sorry about that. If one is aiming for 60 fps, 120Hz@4K at the those prices is not really necessary.
     
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    The Acer 27" and the Asus 27" are both up to 144Hz and are on sale for $1700-1800, while the first one to market is the huge Wasambi Mango 43" at 120Hz for $1375.
     
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    @Vistar Shook - thank you, but even a 208Tti overclocked can't push at a game that fast can it?

    4K at 60FPS at 120hz on Ultra Settings?
     
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    the 2080Ti can do 60FPS@4K on ultra settings on some games, on the ones it can't, it will probably manage on high settings.
    About the 120HZ, that is the refresh rate of the screen, so since it is higher than your target of 60 frames per second, it won't affect the gameplay. This is why I mentioned 120Hz is not necessary if you are aiming for 60FPS. 60Hz is fine for 60FPS, anything greater than 60FPS then you want a higer refresh rate to actually display the frames that the GPU is outputting.
     
  9. Penchaud

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    I understand.

    Can the 2080Ti in SLI mode play 4K games at 120FPS at 120Hz on Ultra Settings?

    I know not all games are SLI compatible or/nor does it work well. The question is for the games it does.
     
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    SLI is on its way out the door as a viable technology. Because NVIDIA decided to focus the RTX on real-time ray tracing as opposed to trying to achieve 60+ fps at 4K in all games, I would say we're still another 2-3 years away from the latter becoming reality. Yes, you can play older at such resolution and frame rate, but newer ones are going to struggle, even more so if you enable ray tracing. There's also the previously mentioned monitor costs. There are only 2-3 on the market that can do 4K at more than 60 Hz, and they're all well over $1,000. One of those displays and SLI 2080 Ti GPUs is a minimum $3,000 right there. Gaming at 1440p is a far more realistic target and a more cost effective solution at the moment. A single 2080 or 2080 Ti and a Core i7 9700K will get you by at that resolution and maximum settings for a good long while, not to mention you can buy a quality monitor with an IPS panel at 144 Hz refresh rate and G-Sync for less than half of what a 4K one costs.

    By the way, there is no such thing as "4K games." Any game can support that resolution as long as it was properly coded to do so. This video is a couple years old but explains it pretty well.

     
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  11. Penchaud

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    Hi,

    Thank you. Let's hope the 1300 series is Volta. I've heard speculation that these babies are so powerful, they will play 4K games very easily and at very high FPS.
     
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    I'd say just get the best 2080Ti you can afford and be happy knowing it's probably the best gaming scenario right now. It can do 4K@60 in many titles given you tweak settings a little. I highly doubt you will notice much difference, quite a few settings give very very little visual fidelity for the performance tax they excise.
     
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    My friends are encouraging me to wait for the next generation as that will be a revolutionary breakthrough. I'm not sure what he means, but I think I will buy it then.

    My budget is 8-12k. Might as well wait.
     
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    I doubt that. It'll be the same incremental increase as always. Given the budget a 2080Ti is a small percentage of that. A next gen card could probably swap in easily. You can get away with spending a third of that. Not sure what you were planning on putting in a 12K rig, but your benefits will probably hit a diminishing return around 4K or so. Even expensive water cooling systems are not that much better than a really good air cooler.
     
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    I think he was referring to Volta.

    I hope I won't have to spend as much, but it will be a system with three water cooling, dual GPU, and LOTS of hard drive space (terabyte upon terabyte).
     
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    But why this fascination with 4k gaming at 60Fps when 1440p is a lot more feasible at a higher FPS for a fraction of the cost? When the tech is really ready for 4k gaming, perhaps in 2020, then just upgrade. The Turing cards just came out so don't expect anything new on the GPU front anytime soon.
     
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    4k looks much better.

    Let's wait until summer 2019 and see where we are
     
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    Of course 4k is better than 1440p, just like 1440p is better than 1080p. However, 1440p at a much higher FPS accompanied with a high refresh rate monitor all on ultra settings is likely better on some games than 4k at the moment. Also, what do you expect summer next year? Something from Nvidia? Don't expect a new gen release so soon after this RTX Turing release....need to wait longer than that..
     
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    gpus like the 1080 can alreaady do 4k/60 obviously.....and 120hz is pointless because the average person cannot see/notice the difference.
     
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    Stop your propaganda, there are hundreds of youtube blind A/B test videos that show people can and it is something I have experienced myself as well. Also the 1080GTX isnt enough in current games to reach 4K at 60fps. Games do get more demanding over time.
     
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    propaganda:

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    DEROGATORY
    information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

    There are alot of sound scientific videos showing their is no difference. I'm not spreading propaganda. I personally own a 120hz monitor..

    anyways im sorry for having such a strong opinion, it will fade. gtx 1080 will game at 4k/60 medium for at least 3 years, obviously new games will come out and you won't be able to max them with a gtx 1080 but if you don't mind subtle losses in visual fidelity then the gtx 1080 is enough.....do you agree rinneh?
     
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    Doubt GTX 1080 can handle BF5 at 4K at 60FPS on ultra. After all, even RTX 2080Ti can't handle it with RTX on...
     
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    yeah its not likely.....games are getting pretty demanding...Id like to change that to say 3 years of low settings 4k
     
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    Isn't the Titan version of this new architecture rumoured to be released soon?
     
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    Yes, let's see how much it costs and how well it performs over the 2080Ti.
     
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    I read somewhere it's going to be a dual card - what does that mean?
     
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    I think you might be referring to the dual fan design and that it occupies two PCI slots.