GPU throttling, how to remove?

Hello,
I have this little problem.
I run ASUS N56V notebook with nVidia 650m Graphics card.
But whenever I run whatever stress test - it says "Core: 1155 mhz (THROTTLING - 1020 mhz)"
If this is real, I lose like 11% of my graphics power, even without any temp. issues - even at 60C, even at 50, too.
Is it possible to fix this?
Also is it possible to remove thermal throttling? (When card reaches 85C, it downlclocks to nothing... while 85C isn't that high of a temp.+Whenever temp reaches 85C, just then the stupid fan decides to spin faster, cools it down, then slowers again, it reaches 85C downlocks again, and so on, and on... if possible to adjust fan speed?)

Thank you.

 

Not a problem, that's how the GPU works. Search for common ways to reduce temps.

 

Eh... what exactly you mean with common ways to reduce temp? If by this you mean dust clean, or coolong pad - notebook is so to speak new - 2 and a half months old + I use 2 fan cooling pad...
Only way around this crappy up and down play of temperatures is to be able to set fan speeds...

And what you mean with this is how GPU works... so I can make 2Ghz GPU, but when turned on, it to throttle down to 1Ghz, yay, but I made the first 2ghz graphics chip... :/

 

You can't OC to 2ghz...

And yes your GPU monitors itself, it will never let you OC to 2ghz, it will downclock.

Why are you using pads? Find it weird that a lower powered GPU like yours would run at 85C. I have a 675MX OC'd on core by 300 and memory by 600 and I don't have throttling issues. Fix your machine.

 

I meant something else with the 2 ghz, but whatver...
How to fix my machine?
Please enlighten me, coz it's 2 months since it gone out of the shop...
I play mainly SCII which is both CPU and GPU heavy -> makes extra heat -> makes GPU trottle... (even more)
What I can't get is why it trottles on normal temperatures?! Instead on running 1155 it runs 1020 (as stated from the stress test)

 

dust can build up in 2-3 months which can up the temps.
what is your ambient room temperature.
was it a shop buy or a reseller built to spec?
might need new thermal paste on the cpu/gpu

 

If you do not like the Throttling, you can try a program called ThrottleStop. However, if your notebook damaged by the excessive heat, we are not responsible [it Throttles for a reason].

Throttle is basically a failsafe for laptops with insufficient cooling; in other words a poorly/inadequately designed cooling system [most likely due to size constraints (small/compact notebook), or inadequate fans/vents]. Most "gaming class laptops" have good cooling systems and do not suffer from throttling [or it throttles in rare occasions]. I believe the ASUS Gaming laptop is their "G-Series"; and I hear the dual-fan cooling system is pretty good.
However, I am guessing the Throttling measures for your laptop was implemented with the above in mind.

You can try various ways to remedy the cooling situation [keep fans/vents super clean!], use a cooling pad, new thermal paste [all mentioned above; TY DJ and Zymph].
In the end, there isn't much you can do as your laptop was most likely not designed for long durations of sustained heat [ie gaming].
Perhaps you could call ASUS Tech Support and file a complaint, maybe they will release a BIOS revision that will allow the CPU/GPU to attain higher temperatures before the Throttle kicks in [Toshiba did this remedy with the x770 Qosmio; it suffered from Throttling because they moved from a dual-fan setup to a single-fan setup].

Good luck and keep us posted with any updates.

 

I use trottle stop, actually it is useless as it only blocks (from what I see) CPU throttling.
Without it, if I max out GPU sonsumption, and start prime 95, the CPU will never activate turbo boost.
If I turn it on, the CPU can reach 100C, and gpu will permamently throttle down . But this happens when both parts are on 100% for more than 10 minutes.
The problem is that this thermal throttling is since the very start (first run of SCII, after 20 minutes, I suffer this -> 60 fps, bang 30 fps, bang 60, bang 30, thats a lot of bang!)
It is bought from a market selling only electronics. Dunnot know how it's called, but in my country we have such thingies...
And still... why the GPU says throttling even without any temperature issue?
As it is even lower power consuming than the DDR5 version of 650m... dafuq...
I feel I got screwed up .
Can the GPU be replaced?

PS ambiet temp is 25C... can reach 27 on extreme 40C days but...
I sometimes turn the air conditioning, it only delays the bang crap by 2-3 minutes and extends the periods of two drops by like 20? 30? %

Edit: The notebook, itself has a weird (for me), for a heavy notebook (ok not ultra heavy extreme horse power machine, but yet) it has strange cooling fan system.
While on most notebooks, there is passage from AIR is sucked in, passes through the heatsink and cools it down... this thingy has only one way in and out. Weird... but maybe it works the same way, putting the same work as other system of cooling, dunno...

PPS - So this notebook is not designed for gaming... and I paid 800 euros for it, collecting them for 3 years from my sh!#hole country using the even more *^&* payment... NOOOOOOOOO...
I am forever screwed.

 

its simple outside you modding the cooling system nothing can be done. the N series has throttling issues, it has for a long time, you didn't researched that and bought it.

 

By modding the cooling system, you mean: to cut holes from where the airflow should enter?
Or to make new custom one?

The actual thing that pisses me off is the fan speed up cheme.
When the gpu reaches 85C, then the fan gets +400rpm and cools it down.
The fan usually runs about 3k rpm, but can reach 5400 when cpu is 99C+
Is there a way to make the fan faster on lower temps?
To write to asus?
The fan has the power to cool things down when used on 60% cpu and 70% gpu, but this power kicks in when it already throttled down.

 

Can you use MSI afterburner to see if your card is really throttling? Last time i ran Furmark (if you are talking about it), it said same but infact it was not throttling.

GPU does not downclock on 85C. but yea fan gets kicked in to cool it down and stop it from reaching higher temps, usually it downclocks at 93C.
Can you re-paste? your CPU temp is so high, usually it shuts down at such higher temps to protect itself.

 

If this was true. I woudln't be here, writing.
If this was true. I would not see this: temp 85c, core clock from 1155 to 835.
But maybe it's true, for GPUs other than 650m.
My cpu is not anywhere close to bwing hot. Actually I run a side cpu demanding program, while playing, to make it run hotter, coz it's temperature actually controls the stupid fan. This dalays things by 30 minutes, but at the end this throttle crap comes again.
I need to edit fan speeds before this happens and without heating my cpu to make it run bloody faster...

 

What stress test are you using? If Furmark, it will throttle nVidia cards. Try MSI Kombustor, part of the Afterburner download. Although many GPU's throttle themselves once they reach 80-85C to protect them.

 

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