Wow, have midrangers gone far or what? Its interesting it feels like low end and mid range cards are making leaps whereas high end cards are only going up slightly each generation.
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
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SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge
Was there supposed to be a picture?
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
ok here is a link:
http://translate.google.com/transla...%8E%E7%A1%95M60J%E8%AF%84%E6%B5%8B&hl=en&sa=G
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Sorry to poop on the parade, but half of that is probably the i7, down it a couple thousand with a normal processor and its still pretty high. I remember the high end a few years ago, as in the 7950GTX was getting around 6000.
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Yeah that is only because of the Core I7, not the low end GPU. Sorry to break your day, you know 3D Mark loves CPU´s and especially Quad Cores.
Look at real gaming benchmarks instead, that´s what the GPU´s show their real weakness such as this GPU. -
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Then explain NAS, why the G51VX-A1 gets a much higher 3DMark score stock than dualcore P8700 X1As?
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Go check the asus forum, its all over. And w/ my CPU OC'd to the max, and GPU OC'd to the max I managed just under 12,000 marks @ 1280x1024. One member with an X1A got 12,300 with his quad OC'd to 2.15GHz and his GPU had a bit lower clocks than mine. That tells me the quad CPU is having at least 1 more core being used.
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here is a user getting 12,000+ marks with a 2.4GHz OC'd quad:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2033/3dmark06score.jpg
notice his CPU score is 3,500.
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0768/11_9k
here is my 3.1GHz OC'd C2D, getting a CPU score of 2750. A full 750 point or 22% increase. -
The quad CPU's do get higher scores than dual core in 3dmark06. With my T9600 OC'd to 3.2 GHz, I still get a lower CPU score than someone with a quad at 2.3 GHz.
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quads do pump up 3dmark06 scores. i thought we are over this.
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Hm, well, Ill go look ( I guess, even though if you present an argument it should be YOU that provides proof, not me go and search for your proof ) you can explain why a system with an Q9450 comes within 1000 points of i7-920 even though the i7-920 is not only faster clock for clock, but also uses SMT, which would make the score pretty one sided were the program multithreaded.
Honestly, you could just use logic, the program was developed in 2005, what are the chances it actually took advantage of CPUs with more than one core? Even HT was fairly new at that point. -
well look at my post again I just provided proof. And it was you sir, that provided the argument that 06 is a single threaded app. I presented the counter argument.
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Since you were too lazy to look it up, I did it for you. This is straight from futuremark:
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Read 5150Joker's post. It seems one of us was right, and one of us was wrong.
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NAS, those benchmarks contain the GPU part of the benchmark too. That and the weight that 3dmark puts on the CPU will smooth things out when you look at final scores.
I'm not saying you're wrong though. What I am saying is:
EVERYONE SHUT UP AND GET BACK ON TOPIC
That's a beastly score for a midrange GPU. I like the power draw of the 40nm parts too. I'm still holding on for 32nm CPU and 40nm GPU personally.
I could compromise if the new dell studio 17 added a 1080p screen option and a 40nm gpu (with the 45nm cpu). I like this though -
Quad vs quad. Even if the i7 is faster clock for clock, it's not THAT much faster than a top end C2Q. Check out Anandtech's i7 mobile article, the results are the same there. i7 comes out on top but not by a huge margin vs a high end c2q. -
That score is less than (or at best equal) what an ATi 4670 gets. Not exactly world shattering. -
Anyway, the CPU is impressive, but its just the GT 240. Personally, Id like to see the new GTS 250m and GTS 260m in action im comparison with the GTX 260m. -
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not too bad with a little GPU overclock maybe there can be something special here.
Guys stay on topic as well, stop arguing over minor/measley things. Save it for OT
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just another note, that 3DMark score is at 1366x768 res, w/ an external monitor and the standard 1280x1024 res it'd be a fair bit lower. Not saying its a bad card, but its still not super impressive, imo.
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Yeah, it definitely is and with the 250 scoring near 10,000, it will be interesting to see where the 260GTS will hit.
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SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge
Well, Dragon, most people wouldn't care for their FPS to be below 25.
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
Yeah you are right.
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I wouldn´t call that playable anyway, below 20 fps in firefights not impressive at all. As I said earlier low end GPU.
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
Since this card is only 40nm it should take a high over clock, once they overclock the GPU we will be able to see what it can do.
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
^^^Thank you Cheeseman
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Well in my world it is lowend. Highend I talk about the 8800m GTX and up.
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The 9700M GTS will destroy the GT 240M.
Also, Turbo Boost does work on all four cores.
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Looks like a fine mid-range GPU. You would be happy with it in a non-expensive, non-gaming machine.
But this whole thread is another reminder why we need to forget about 3Dmark06. -
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^^^ lol haha. I was thinking the same.
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Yeah allright guys midrange it is
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According to notebookcheck, a GT240M paired with p7350 only scores 5857 while a 9700M gts with p8600 scores close to 8k
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-240M.17654.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9700M-GTS.9899.0.html
I say there is a big difference. Core i7 boosts the 3dmark score by at least 1k compared to a mid range core2duo. -
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Well, the 240m is 58% faster than the 4570 which uses the same gigawatts as 22% of a flux capacitor when traveling only 63 miles per hour. Based on that the 240m should be about 35% of the speed of a ford taurus.
Yeah, I can spit out randomly unverified generalizations and statistics and expect every ready to accept them as fact too.
No, I'm not picking on you kevin jack, I'm just making a point.
GT240 + Core i7 = 8,000 3D Mark
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Red_Dragon, Sep 26, 2009.