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    GTA IV Performance

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by SVuser, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. SVuser

    SVuser Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, since GTA IV is coming out tomorrow (It's receiving nice critics so far... i mean, it's basicly the same one of the XBOX360 w/ even more stuff, so how could it be worse? -i can only think of a bad optimisation-..) I'd like to know what performance are you having.
    Especially w/ the 8600m gt 256mb, but of course, any other feedback would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    well gta4 stuttered like hell on xbox360, which has a 7800gtx I think, or something similar. so I don't think a mid-range card will run it too well.
     
  3. Kevin

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    If the listed requirements are legit, an 8600 will be okay, if you have a decent Core 2 Duo.

    I can't imagine it being worse than the 360/PS3 performance.
     
  4. W2K

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    GTA lags on PS3/360 ? (sry for questin I have never played on PS3/360) I really hope M1530 is going to handle it. Generally the 8600M GT (with 256 MB RAM) is around the minimum requirements (with performance similar to 7900GS), but what does minimmum mean ? That it won't lag on such hardware with ev. set to min , or that I'll be only able to run the game but It'll be impossible to play(too low framerate)? I'll be waiting for feedback.
     
  5. Burning Balls

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    Don't worry, I'm sure that it will be scalable.


    You could turn down the traffic density, get rid of "soft shadows", and all these other options which don't make a big difference to graphical quality.


    Just keep fiddling with the options till you get a good balance of graphics and performance.
     
  6. Rahul

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    I rarely had stuttering problems on the 360 version, they were very rare and far in-between, for instance if I had a high wanted level and there were lots of police cars on screen at once.
     
  7. unknown555525

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    Playing the xbox360 version, you can visually tell that the game was averaging less than 30fps throughout the entire game, for me it constantly went below 20fps. I know this from the years of playing PC FPS's. The aimer reticule in the xbox360 version of GTA4 constantly slowed down, and sped up depending on which direction I was looking, and the whole game just felt choppy, like trying to run crysis in 720P on an integrated GPU. In many points of the game, like when you're driving fast, some of the buildings take so long to load in you'll smash into them without ever noticing it there, and when motion blur shows on screen, the framerate drops to a level where I can almost count the frames being displayed.

    Keep in mind that consoles are basically computers with a midrange GPU, and an ultra high end CPU. I think mabe sony and microsoft are retarded, but that's the way it is. That kind of explains why the recommended requirements are a triple core CPU, and a midrange GPU.

    Console versions and speculation aside, we'll all know in a matter of hours how it looks and performs anyway.
     
  8. xxERIKxx

    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    i will be picking it up. see how it plays with the minimum cpu now and after xmas i should have at least a t9300.
     
  9. redda2

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    Its out now right?

    Any reports on how its running on your specs?
     
  10. xxERIKxx

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    i dont know if its really out right now. i think it ships today.
     
  11. Magnus72

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    True I agree with unknown here. I own the 360 version of GTA IV and the game is almost unplayable due to the low framerate. Ha ha yes I agree that both Microsoft and Sony is retarded who puts such a low end GPU alongside a higher end CPU, sure consoles works differently than the PC´s. But still these consoles struggles with outputting good framerates even at 720p resolution.
     
  12. Yenkaz

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    They were limited by existing GPU's at the time, and cost/heat considerations..

    The processors were made specifically for the consoles by external chip manufactores, but there was only two producers of high end GPU's to chose from.
     
  13. redda2

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    im hoping it runs good - from what ive seen the console version struggle
     
  15. Magnus72

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    Yeah those ATI boys has big trouble with running the game. I mean a 4870 can´t even run the game smoothly at 1280x1024. It will be interesting to see if Nvidia GPU´s runs it better. However most likely a driver issue.
     
  16. ArmageddonAsh

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    well i meet the reccomended requirements but i think im going to wait to see what the performance is like with everyone else before i buy it
     
  17. ravenmorpheus

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    I'm hoping it runs good, System Requirements lab tells me that I can just about run it at min spec but for recommended I fail on CPU speed...

    My rig is an Asus M70VM, 2.26GHZ C2D P8400, 4gb RAM, nVidia 9600M GS 512MB, I have the game on pre-order from Amazon (despite learning recently that it's coming with SecuROM), hopefully I shall get it Friday and be able to run some tests over the weekend.

    Here's hoping Rockstar have actually taken into account that not everyone has a top spec machine...
     
  18. brainer

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    System requirements lab sucks :D

    btw, the game is "the way its meant to be played" So Nvidia users on both Mobile and desktop should own
     
  19. ravenmorpheus

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    Well I've found System Requirements lab to pretty reliable, they have only told me that I couldn't run one game to date (Dawn of War Dark Crusade) and they got that wrong...

    However I've never had System Requirements lab tell me I can run a game and then found out I can't...
     
  20. brainer

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    when it tells you a game will run it will, but when it tells you that you fail that is most of the time wrong, i once failed because i didnt have SM4 card, while i played the game maxed out :p
     
  21. ravenmorpheus

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    No I must correct you on that - they stated I failed only at recommended spec, not minimum spec, and I only failed on recommended spec because of CPU speed.
     
  22. Kevin

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    ^^ hopefully not, and that thread has 2 users, both the same ATI cards too, then a bunch of people ing off the same results they are all seeing, incredibly useless.
     
  24. rot112

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    Hmm... the game is released to today, any 8800m gts/gtx users got this game yet. Im really thinking about buying it after i get my t9300 sometime this month. I know that with a t5550 i wont be able to play it very well at all. Since it sounds like a very cpu intensive game.
     
  25. brainer

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    Rot112 yup.. the game seems to be way too CPU intensive :D
     
  26. ArmageddonAsh

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    today? in the UK it comes out tomorrow. very tempted to get it as i have most of the day off tomorrow :)
     
  27. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    or just horribly cpu optimized as most console game ports are.
     
  28. Bungalo Bill

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    Those screenshots look like butt.
     
  29. brainer

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    i did want to say so.. but everyone in this forum think i'm hostile already xD
     
  30. W2K

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    So is it playable on 8600 GT ?
     
  31. Rorschach

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    magic eight ball says "outlook not so good". Considering the thread posted earlier showed a 4870 having to run the game with medium textures and the game looks average at best...you would have to play it on low settings and more importantly why would you want to....I was feeling buyers remorse earlier today when I bought L4D, but now I don't feel that way at all.
     
  32. Burning Balls

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    Left 4 Dead is totally amazing and you won't regret buying it. :D


    Watch out for the Tank!


    On the topic of GTA4 performance, the person you are refering to, had Render set on highest, and also maximum traffic density, as well as maximum shadow density.


    When I get the game I'm going to significantly reduce the shadow density and the render settings, which should hopefully give me a fairly decent FPS to play at.
     
  33. Rahul

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    Even with those settings, those screenshots didn't impress me, even looked worse than the 360 version and on a desktop HD4870. This game looks to be worse than Crysis in terms of optimization. :confused:
     
  34. Skeat15

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    How bout the HDX16t with the 512MB card?
     
  35. Micaiah

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    I actually managed to read all 12 pages of that thread, and it looks like another poorly ported game. A couple of members there have tried 4870s and GTX 280s and can barely get 30 FPS, most reporting 20-25 and frequent frame rate drop in the teens. I can't imagine any laptop besides the ones with 8800M/9800M GTX SLi able to play the game at an acceptable rate.
     
  36. namaiki

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    lol, I guess my Mobility Radeon 9600 is out of the question.
     
  37. brainer

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    hmmm... wait for new drivers possibly, specially the guys with multi GPUs, i mean i dont know why are the ati even bothering to run the game now, they cant even do custom profiles
     
  38. Burning Balls

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    This is my fear as well.


    I guess we'll find out tomorrow. :D
     
  39. Rorschach

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    I think its just a poorly coded game. I also think they kicked it out the door before properly finishing it. Rockstar specifically said they new there was a ati graphics card problem and that the final release would resolve that. The link provided also included people using a single gtx 280 and still having to heavenly turn settings down. I can already see all those brand new whitebook owners feeling like they waste their money.
     
  40. Fuggedaboudit

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    Hi everyone!
    I'm new to these forums, but i registered for this thread.
    I noticed that "Burning Balls" has the same system as I do.

    So, BB, could you give me more in-dept info when you get the game?

    Greetz,

    Fugg
     
  41. Tenspeed33

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    so recommended requirements were right then... Hoepfully fixes will solve the problem. If not, Rockstar have got it VERY badly wrong. Letting PC gamers down like this is dumb, after all, we were the ones that got GTA up and running in the first place. Back in the time when no consoles had a release of this game. Now millions of wannabe gamers bought 360s and PS3s, so Rockstar turn their backs on us. GREAT.
     
  42. WysockiSauce

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    I will be getting it tomorrow so I'll tell all you p6860 owners out there what the situation looks like.
     
  43. brainer

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    that'll be great WysockiSauce :D

    i cant put my hands on this now, it will arrive at the place i live in 2 days or so
     
  44. Magnus72

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    I have it right now, installing it now as I am posting. 8800m GTX SLI here, I´ll post benchmarks soon. Got the game for free though through a friend who is a reviewer, so if it doesn´t run well it doesn´t matter to me, no payers remorse here :)
     
  45. airholland

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    Anybody allready got a chance on testing this on the 8600m GT?

    Maybe some screenshots?

    Anyway i'll be geting my copy tomorrow, and i'll probably post some screens/experiences/benchmarks
     
  46. W2K

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    I'm really looking forward to reading your conclusions. Will you please test it on 1280x800 for some time ?
     
  47. Burning Balls

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    Sure. The 7900gs is also the equivalent of the 8600m GT so I should be able to speak for them as well.


    Anyone with a 8600m GT, I'm getting the game tomorrow and I'll let you know how well optimised it is.
     
  48. Fuggedaboudit

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    Great!

    Hmm... Well optimised? I read in the readme that 6000/7000 might not support the damage of cars. Don't know if thats with the 7900 GS go aswell though...
     
  49. SVuser

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    Anxiously waiting for your feedback ''Burning Balls''.!!! :)
     
  50. brainer

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    and why not, i dont see why an 8-9 series would support damage while 7 not.
     
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