GTX 1650 vs GTX 1650Ti or GTX 1660Ti ?

So I recently bought a budget laptop in Feb.


HP Pavillion
Ryzen 5 4500
GTX 1650


So I recently saw this

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/hp-p...md-ryzen-5-4600h-gaming-laptop-lt-05d-hp.html

which is exactly the one I have but slightly better spec, slightly faster CPU and GTX 1650Ti. And it’s the same price I paid for mine.

I wanted to ask what folks think about the potential gains over the spec I already have…?

GTX 1650 vs GTX 1650Ti ?

Is there a significant boost??


I was considering to try and sell the laptop I have on eBay to get this... if I could manage to get £550-600 for it, it might be worth it?

But that’s the question — is it worth it for slightly higher spec? Will I see much difference?

I suspect it’s probably not worth it.


I’m playing Total War Warhammer 2, which I love…

That game series is historically always been taxing on performance, not the best optimised franchise. And you know the deal with PC gaming, your always thinking about how you might get a little better performance, especially in anticipation of Warhammer 3.

 

1650 Ti is barely faster than 1650, like 10%. 1660 Ti is much faster than both, around 50%.

 

none you can pick up a 2060 laptop on the cheap now....but if you must have one obviously the 1660ti...but to be honest you might want to save up a bit longer and pick up a 3060 which is similar to the 2070 super and would be a better investment

 

I bought a 1650 laptop for 350-400 and it runs all games Pre 2018 but struggles on newer games....on the 24th Im probably getting a 3060 laptop and should be good for a few years...and the upside all the older games will run at a higher framerate 120hz ftw

 

The GTX 1650/GTX 1650 Ti are cards that can probably handle most newer games at 1080p with medium/high settings, but that may not be the case for long. A GTX 1660 Ti or RTX 2060 are much stronger performers as noted and have 6GB of video memory; 4GB is barely getting by today.

Charles

 

Perfect.

Yes 4gb will not cut it and I see bottlenecks from vram at 1080p while trying to use the highest textures. take it from me as I own a 1650 laptop it will not last the xbox series x or ps5 generation its just too weak.

 

Yeah I wouldn't even bother going through all that even for a 1660ti/2060 unless you can get a really really good deal like not much more than what you already paid for what you have. Definitely just tough it out and save for a 3060 new or used 2070s.

 

Dont bother with a 1650ti its not worth it, I showed you some ok deals for a 1660ti laptop in the past but if you can wait i suggest you save up for a RTX 3060 laptop. Also dont bother going with any RTX 3050/RTX3050ti laptops either, Even though they're almost the same performance of a 1660ti/rtx2060 laptop but the 4GBs of VRAM really hurts it.

Not anymore, The prices of 1660ti/RTX 2060 laptops went up for the last few months now.

 

Older used stuff just stays around not much more than what they were in closeouts new, the cheapest I saw for a used 1050/1050ti/970m laptop back around xmas I saw was 400 bucks and 1650's new were 600+ for a little bump in perf. There were used 980m laptops for 500-700 depending on the other components. You really have to do your research as to what retail new is vs. what is listed on ebay or other used places because it's not much different now that taxes are universal and add in the shipping most used sellers charge which you get free from many retailers for new stuff. Tunnel vision burned me in other things used on amazon/ebay vs. new

 

Hey thanks for the feedback folks…



Yeah I thought it would not be worth all that just for a modest performance boost.

So the 1650Ti isn’t that much more power.. than my base version.

Forget it then.

Now the question remains do I sell my laptop I only bought in Feb…? To put toward a more powerful laptop…

OR keep it — and just use that for a year or two…?
I’m just thinking I might get more for it now though?

 

Check ebay for how much the one you have is selling for, then how much the new laptop you want costs. Only you can figure out if it's worth what you'll spend. The one thing you can be 100% sure of is that it will definitely be worth less as time goes on. I guess bottom line is, is it good enough for what you need to play now, and how much are you willing to spend on a new one if it isn't, and do you want to take the time to sell the old one who knows how long that will take, etc..

 

Yeah absolutely.

I only bought the laptop for RTS games really, do my main gaming on PlayStation.

I think I’m gearing up for Total War : Warhammer 3……

I run WH2 with most things on Ultra, and it runs pretty decent. Mostly in the 40-50fps. I’ve had to turn some things off, but have tweaked it so things run reasonably smooth.

but I think the GTX1650 is already showing it’s limits with the latest Total War games.

My original plan was to go budget for now, and then down the road, I would get a 30 series laptop.

I think PC/laptop gaming is a hell of a thing though — when you finally run into those games you cannot run with everything on Ultra…
It can turn you into a bit of a performance maniac and almost compulsively start craving more power….

 

Totally agree it can suck you in, to want more and more eye candy especially if you're looking for 4k+/60+ laptops are not a very good thing for that based on value for sure, at least a desktop you can get a kickass cpu that will be fine for 5+ years and just swap out the rest of it as you want an upgrade afa gaming. I just look at it like there's an avalanche of games out there that are "older" that you can tap into so why not just get what you need for playing the games you play now at the settings you're happy with and then have all those older games to fill in the gaps. Bioshock 1 isn't less fun, for me at least, because it's not up to modern graphics same goes for tons of other games. invidia means envy in latin.

 

You can get sucked in.

MORE POWER!

I suppose it’s like people that pimp their car. It becomes like an addictive cycle.

As I said — Total War: Warhammer 2 is the only game so far I’ve had to turn down some graphical settings.
it still looks fine and most important things are on ultra… but….

it’s hurts doing that! Lol.

 

There is barely any difference between high and ultra in graphic quality



A lot of times its not worth the FPS drop especially if you know your GPU limitations. I only use Ultra settings in older AAA games and lighter games as i know my 1660ti will get over 60+ FPS, but for games like RDR2 and Control i use high settings with the textures on Ultra.

 

Yeah I think "ultra" or beyond is just so those who spent ungodly amount of money on their setups can feel happy lol

 

What do we think of this?


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BB9RWXD/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_glt_fabc_DVRKXCWN9Q6C83B165R6


when I see high specs and a 1660Ti? I think surely for the price I could get a better GPU?

what do people think?

 

Lenovo Legion Y540 15.6" Gaming Laptop 144Hz i7-9750H 16GB RAM 256GB SSD GTX 1660Ti 6GB - 9th Gen i7-9750H Hexa-Core - 144Hz Refresh Rate - antonline.com

Very similar performance but significantly cheaper.

 

Hey thanks very much…


I do lean towards the Ryzen CPU tho??
I always think Ryzen is better. More bang for your buck!

 

I also think around $1300 could you get a decent laptop with maybe better GPU, RTX3060?

 

Its the same one i have

Looks like the price finally dropped to normal but it might go up to $1149 again since they're nearly out of stock

You can also check out the 2021 version with the RTX 3060
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1617923-REG/lenovo_82ju006dus_legion_5_ryz7_5800h_8_512.html

 

BINGO!!


That’s great. Same price but everything is better!

Ryzen 7 5800 and RTX 3060!

that’s good!

my friend was looking at this —

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BB9RWXD/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_glt_fabc_DVRKXCWN9Q6C83B165R6


He should get the one with the RTX 3060 no brainer!


Is that correct? Is the RTX 3060 (I think it’s 6GB in this laptop you showed) is it better than the 1660TI which is also 6GB?

I would assume it was??

PLUS its paired with a slightly faster CPU.

I can’t see wattage either?

 

Apparently it went up to $1229... Not worth it at that price

Yes a RTX 3060 is much faster than a 1660ti and its performance rivals a RTX 2070 Super. It'll also have DLSS like other RTX GPUs. The Legion has the MAX-P version which is 130w (Technically 115w because of dynamic boost).



If your friend is on a tight budget he can go with the Y540 that @saturnotaku posted
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...99-antonline-ebay-store.836345/#post-11104274

 

What do we think of this one?


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VKV5WQ1/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_glt_fabc_6X9SCDKQVDRK4QYE93WQ

 

Great vid comparison by the way! BIG difference!

 

Also I cannot see power/watts.

is this something you have to be careful of e.g laptops with lower watts translates as less power to the GPU and therefore worse performance.

So are Lenovo Legion series unique in this regard? Full powered GPU’s?


And will RAM soldered to the motherboard with only one upgradeable slot be indicated as e.g ‘on board memory’ ?

 

Acer's site says 105W for that one you posted.

EDIT... sorry "UP TO" 105W... so YMMV

 

So does that then mean —


Less power = less performance

So the Lenovo laptop wins?

 

less power means less performance...I say if your getting a 150w 3080 thats good...105w 3080 no good...its all about the power this gen

 

And that’s laptop right?

so that Acer RTX 3060 will underperform compared with the RTX 3060 in the Lenovo right?

 

Yes, The Lenovo uses the 115w version but i dont think it'll be too much of a difference especially with an RTX 3060.

 

Yeah, the performance increase as wattage increases is not linear, and just because the laptop says it's a certain power level doesn't even mean it will hit it in all circumstances when balancing CPU/GPU power limits depending on workload. Maybe read some reviews.