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    GTX 285m Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Vitor711, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. ziddy123

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    Yes I believe you should be able to order the HD5870 from RJTech in a few weeks.
     
  2. Vitor711

    Vitor711 Notebook Evangelist

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    This.

    I'm disappointed, not devastated and even then, only mildly so. Naturally I'd like them to be equal but I have upgrade potential and, in my opinion, a far sleeker looking unit.

    Also, in the UK the G73JH is actually far more expensive than my current laptop (by about £300) and I've missed my chance to order with a US retailer as they're all sold out and I needed this unit before mid-March to take away on holiday with me.

    Not that I wish I had chosen the G73JH over this one - haven't played PC games in over 3 years and I'm currently loving the performance I'm getting on this thing. Also, I really like the Physx support in Batman and Mirror's Edge (a minor point but still, makes up for a lack of DX11 support so far)...

    Also, after having an ATI x1700 in my old laptop, a card which the official ATI website refused to acknowledge existed, I feel wary about going back until I hear better things about their driver support.
     
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    i'm quite sure u can get an Asus G73 cheaply into UK from US.. I would buy online from Gentechpc.com or xoticpc.com and it should be cheaper...
     
  4. ziddy123

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    You would be amazed at the appearance of the G73. Yes it is plastic. But guess what, it's only 8.5 pounds, or like 4 KG. You can pick this up with your thumb and forefinger.

    And the thin end when you have the laptop open is .6 inches high. It's so sleek, I highly doubt the Clevo comes close to it's appearance. Quality of build probably goes to Clevo, but that's why you pay the extra money. But I expect this G73 to last a long time with no problems.

    And it's price is not as bad as you claimed. It's still cheaper than the Clevo, remember to compare you have to upgrade the Clevo to 8GB of Ram, 500GB drives and 2 year warranty with 1 year accidental.
     
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    crytosis and world in conflict.
     
  6. Vitor711

    Vitor711 Notebook Evangelist

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    It did work out a bit cheaper - you have to remember to add 17.5% VAT though on top of the price so it didn't seem like a massive difference. Also, I ordered my current model when there were still doubts as to the shipping dates of the Asus - some claiming it to be as late as mid-march and that would have been too much of a wait for me. Plus there was always the early adopters risk of going for a product with no reviews out there. I made my choice and am happy with it - especially knowing that I can upgrade the GPU in this one to the 3xx series when that finally gets released.

    I get 2 years warranty already - Kobalt Computers offered that as standard and as for 1 year accidental, that's NA only so wouldn't have worked out for me.

    As for Weight, mine is only 3.8KG so about the same and trust me, this thing is gorgeous - at least it suits my tastes better. Although it is slightly thicker than the Asus - probably explains the fact that it runs so damned cool.

    Will do - installing right now, check back in an hour or two and I'll let you know how they went.
     
  7. ziddy123

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    Can you post a screenshot with your temperature readings after doing 3DMark Vantage test? Mine was only 77C.

    I'd be interested to see if the 285 runs cooler, I have my doubts as I had an Nvidia that burned so hot I thought it would scorch my lap.

    You can see here, 77C after Vantage with the GPU overclocked by 100 clocks on both the core and memory.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Vitor711

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    I'll download 3d mark now and check it out - card's highest temp post gaming was 76C so far.
     
  9. ziddy123

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    With stock settings right? If so then the Clevo cooling isn't any better than Asus' G73 as that's what I get gaming with my GPU overclocked (75-76C)
     
  10. Vitor711

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    Yup - I haven't touched the card so far. It's mainly been around 60C though, 76C was after having started gaming at 11:00 and finished at around 21:00.

    EDIT: What settings for vantgage? 1280x1024 and all the other preset settings or anything I should change? Any test in particular you wanting?
     
  11. ziddy123

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    Just do the performance one. And for G73 the idle temp is around 56-58C. So looks like the Clevo's cooling system isn't better than the G73 unless the HD5870 runs significantly cooler. Which will make it interesting to see how cool the Clevo will run when someone upgrades the 285 to the HD5870.
     
  12. Vitor711

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    My idle temp has been around 40C - must be the 285m kicking up all that heat then.

    Just did a FRAPS benchmark with Cryostasis - won't run at full res but it's playable with all settings on high (no AA or AF no Vsync or Physx) at 1600x900 at around 30FPS - dropping to 25 occasionally.
     
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    Did you get Vantage to work with temperature monitoring?
     
  14. Vitor711

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    Done - results posted
     
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    thanks alot man. you are a very good help with your runs. :)
     
  16. Vitor711

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    That's ok - weirdly enough, I kind of enjoy doing it. Now I have excel installed, I can finally open the FRAPS benchmark files so will be updating all my runs with more accurate figures - 3 sets of 2 minute benchmarks and then taking the average from each one.

    Considering how helpful I found these forums when searching for a Laptop, I feel as though this is my way of giving something back and of helping people who may be in the same boat I was in a few months ago.

    This seems to be a good community in which to play an active role. And who knows? Maybe one day I'll have as high a rep level as you :)
     
  17. Jasp

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    The GTX 285m is a 55nm card the 5870 is a 40nm i would expect it to run a lot cooler then the GTX.
     
  18. ziddy123

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    Tessellation works in G73 with Aliens v Predator
    - I'll try and check it out for myself later.

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  19. Vitor711

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    It probably does - the only reason I'm getting the similar temps is possibly down to the superior cooling system that the Clevo chassis offers.

    Also, I hear that the 285m is meant to be more efficient and, as a result, run cooler than the 280m so that's also a factor.
     
  20. LaptopNut

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    You can avoid this annoying, pointless and inaccurate message by creating a direct link to bmstartapp.exe to launch your Batman game as opposed to the other one. Once you have the settings the way you want them to be you are all set and can launch directly.
     
  21. IKAS V

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    Great work Victor711.
    285m GTX is a great card, 5870 HD is better but you can't go wrong with either.At least we have a option now with our CLEVO's.
     
  22. Lobster Lutze

    Lobster Lutze Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone done a benchmark for Arma II with this card yet? Would be interested to see that, I'm thinking about getting a w860
     
  23. Kade Storm

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    I like the 280s, but I need a confirmation. Is there a valid source that can confirm a 285m as physically different to the 280m? Because on specification and core, it is exactly a 280m with what appears to be a newer overclocked BIOS. I just don't see how it should run cooler. My 280s with powermizer disabled run at the same idle temps as the 285m. In fact, a bit cooler, but that might be due to the M17x's design.
     
  24. LaptopNut

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    You are probably aware that Arma 2 is very badly optimised and even high end Desktops will struggle with it, however, here are the results I get:

    Arma 2 patched to 1.05, native 1600 x 900 resolution, Built in Benchmark


    Benchmarks regardless of high or normal settings average at about 35 fps. Lowering visibility improves frame rates by a few fps. In game performance is about 20 fps, occasionally 28 fps. It is only playable at all low settings but it still looks pretty good. With all low settings, the frame rate is a more constant 30-34 fps in real time.

    It would be interesting to see how this one performs on the Asus G73.
     
  25. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I wish I had that game to see if my 4870 crossfire can handlle it.
     
  26. steadfast9661

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    arma2 runs like a pile on anything.
     
  27. Lobster Lutze

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    Yeah, a real shame because it's excellent otherwise.Thanks for the figures though
     
  28. dondadah88

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    your 06 score with your 8800m gtx, is your gpu stocked or overclocked?
     
  29. eazy_e

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    how does the gtx285m compare to the 260m gtx?

    I have the 260m and am kinda curious how much better the newer version is?

    could you benchmark at 1440 x 900?

    i get about 20fps at 1440x900 at enthusiast on warhead with the benchmark tool.

    would the 285 give 30fps? or less?
     
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    Same as a 280M.
    It is basically just higher clocked version.
    Cooling on the M17x is amazing so it should be around the same.
     
  32. Kade Storm

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    Thanks for the information. It was exactly what I thought, but I didn't want to jump the gun because that'd be uncool.

    So. . . anyone up for BIOS flashing their 280s? (LAWL)
     
  33. LaptopNut

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    You can download the Arma 2 Demo which has a built in Benchmark under Singleplayer Scenario although it is probably not as up to date as the full 1.05 version.
     
  34. dondadah88

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    that file is way to big. i will download it at school.
     
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    New results for Dirt 2 post patch - I'm seeing an increase in performance from around 50-75% which is insane
     
  37. dondadah88

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    try out the new driver nvidiia released today. It's a huge perrformance increase in some games.
     
  38. Kade Storm

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    I fully trust this guy because he is *PICKY*. Even ArmA II with basic 30 FPS average wouldn't satisfy the guy. We had Magnus tweak it to a playable state, and while some of us settled, 72Hundred gave up on the idea until something better would come along.

    So keeping that level of fuss in mind, if the guy says it is a whole new experience, I'll take that to mean something solid at face value.

    I realise it's harder for someone in your position to take that kind of information because you'd at the very least need frame rate or a benchmark run or a screen capture - something. However, I assure you that this guy's standards are solid. I'll pass along the word to him and maybe he can share some figures with us in this thread.
     
  39. Vitor711

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    Has it been tested with the 285m? That card originally had severe HDMI output problems when first sent to retailers that Nvidia had to solve via a hasty last minute update about 2 weeks ago - not sure I want to risk losing that functionality for increased performance just yet unless I know for sure.

    Although the 20% performance increase for single GPUs listed on the site does look pretty impressive...

    Also, isn't the one released today technically a desktop driver update?
     
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    which drivers u use?
     
  41. Vitor711

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    187.71 - although the main issue was that the driver wasn't WHQL certified with the Clevo chassis that my G870 was built on and this caused compatibility problems.

    Apparently Nvidia fixed the issue but not sure if that's built into the stock graphics drivers that my laptop is using.
     
  42. ziddy123

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    Vitor711 and other W870CU owners, the HD5870M is now available through RJTech for upgrading.

    Also good news, the HD5870 runs very cool in it. It's running about 77C with 15 minutes of Furumark benchmarking.

    Moo who has this system hit 9,776 on GPU score!

    [​IMG]
     
  43. tianxia

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    sweet! that's about the same score as a stock desktop gtx 260 c216.
    he's probably running it near 900mhz. i wouldn't clock it that high 24/7.
     
  44. ziddy123

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    Yes his hobby is benchmarking laptops. Odd hobby, but he enjoys it. He overclocked to 900/1125.

    His stock scores are the same as mine stock. About 8,000 GPU. To get another 1,000 points you need to overclock the core 200 clocks and the memory 125 clocks :p
     
  45. Vitor711

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    I'll bear that in mind for the future - sincerely doubt I'll be switching GPUs within the next year though but it'll be interesting to see benchmark results with 5870 equipped W870CUs and how they compare to the GTX 285m.

    Also added some more benchmarks as I just bought Left 4 Dead 2.
     
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    why not just return your laptop and get the one with a 5870? You'll get a better GPU and its 40 pounds cheaper too :D :D :D
     
  47. ziddy123

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    He lives in the UK I believe. His situation may differ for now.
     
  48. sean473

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    actually its quite easy for him to get a 5870... he can buy it from kobaltcomputers.co.uk from which he got the laptop or he can exchange for a same laptop with a 5870.
     
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