GTX 680MX benchmarks (vs 680M)

Finally we have some real numbers we can use to compare against GTX 680M. Note that this is from the iMac with a more powerful CPU (Intel Core i7 3770 3.40Ghz), so don`t look too much on the overall score but rather the "Graphic score" in each test.

It is confirmed that this GPU is using standard MXM 3.0b which is what you find in all our high end notebooks (Clevo/Dell/MSI). As of today it is confirmed that Rabook is coming out with their newest model, F470MX, with 680MX ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/693683-nvidia-gtx-680mx-33.html#post9021543). This is basically MSI since they are using the exact same model as GT70. So one should expect MSI atleast to follow and who knows what other brands. But most importantly, these benchmarks will atleast give us window to the GTX 780M/785M which will be a fully fledged 1536 core model (same as 680MX). Perhaps with higher clocks since the architecture improvements could allow that.

I also include the 680M to see the difference between what we have now

ALL CREDITS GOES TO Wesley-Alex FROM BENYOUHUI FOR THE 680MX NUMBERS
Source: Benyouhui

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3DMark Vantage:

680M:


680MX:


3DMark 11 Performance:

680M:


680MX:


3DMark 11 Xtreme:

680M:


680MX:

 

That's pretty awesome. I'm glad some other notebook manufacturers are getting their hands on some as I thought it would exclusively Apple.

Though, I find it funny that they stuck a mobile GPU (although a very powerful one) with a desktop CPU.

I am curious as to how high you can overclock.

 

Must be one hot running card!! With 350mhz memory bump and another shader block open!

I should think few laptops could power one of these beasts let alone 2 un SLI. Certainly not my M15x haha

 

Look at the power numbers:

GTX680 (desktop): 300W
GTX680MX: 124W

176W TDP saving

3840QM: 45W (Much higher cost)
3770: 77W

Would have only given a 32W TDP saving.

 

Well it is now obvious that Apple had some exclusive deal with Nvidia on the 680MX.

First of all here is news from our asian friends Chiphell

Then we have this recent listing from MSI:
MSI GT70 One: Windows 8 Gaming Laptop for Php140k | YugaTech | PC Labs

 

at 124W, doesnt that burn out the socket of models like 150/170em? thats what i am most concerned about, cuz i want to upgrade

 

The whole TDP and power consumption limits that flows around are confusing as hell. But if I understand it correctly it goes something like this:

MXM 3.0 have specifications which each manufaturer (laptop OEM) must follow. These specifications are NOT about heat or TDP. It is basicly guidelines on the max Amps and voltage the module (GPU) can draw.
Max wattage a MXM 3.0b can deliver is 200W.
As long as you are within this limit (0-200W power draw) you are in the safe zone.

So a OEM task is basicly A) Make shure you don`t include a GPU that doesn`t draw anymore than PEAK 200W B) Design a cooling system that is capable of removing the heat the hardware produce.

B) is where your question comes in. Is your Clevo good enough to remove the heat produced by the 680MX? I`m not 100% certain since its probably not far away from the limit of what your 150EM is capable of dealing with. Try to look at HTWingNut`s P150EM review he gets 80C max with his 680M ( http://i.imgur.com/5L35S.jpg). What additional temperatures we will see with the 680MX, I can`t foresee.

17" is most likely what this GPU will be suitable inside imo

 

I think my 680M @ 1.087v and 1100mhz core clocks goes a bit over that 124W so I think you are fine in terms of not burning the socket.h

Also MSI will have to use a bigger brick than their 180W ones if they want to go 680MX.

 

80C isnt too bad, i regularly run my 675m to over 90C and its been fine all along

 

Lol that's bad dude

 

lol I guess it depends on what he means by "regularly." If it's every now and then, ok (it's a fermi card after all, could probably use a repaste.) If it hits 90+ every time you game, then something's really wrong lol.

 

i dont know what happened, after i repaste it first time, it was like 80s, but after a few repastes, it went to 90s. also i like my room warm since its winter

 

That could turn in to a very expensive heater

 

Hmm, that is actually quite warm for a GPU like that. Did you replace the thermal paste?

 

funny how some of us speculated this card would never come to your usual gaming laptops and look where we are now.

 

I think the rtemperature is abit too high to reach over 90C. Is there anyway you could do to reduce it? Like an additional fan on the bottom of laptop?

 

yeah i repasted it a few times. i do have a cheap cooling pad, but it gets hot itself, so not sure how well it works. also i am playing my games on a bed, so that might contribute to the heat issue a bit.

Also, i emailed eurocom, they said we wont see a 680mx, have to wait for 700m series to come out

 

Any possibility you made a mistake while repasting? I haven't done a paste job yet since my 680's typically run at 60c, which is pretty damn good, from what I've been told.

 

i repaste a lot, i use the line method. the last 2 or 3 repaste have been yielding the same temperatures

 

That's the first thing I thought too.

 

you can get an Alienware 240W brick and mod to get it work with MSI machine though. Thats what I did way back.

 

The question is how much do the OEMs want to load the PSU to ensure a long life? Are the PSUs made for 100% load all the time or are they counting in 10-20% lower as a safe guard? 680MX stock is fine with a 180W PSU if you don`t need to take precautions against high load.

If they ship out notebooks with 180W PSUs, there will be no room for overclocking though. Either way, that 240W PSU would be sweet to have

 

The thought (at least it was for me) was that it wouldn't be a direct replacement in existing gaming laptops. TDP and power draw is too high. And it isn't, it requires a new design. I don't like where this is heading though 125W TDP video cards in laptops now? What the heck? I like to game on my laptop, but I also like portability, and anything more than a 180W brick becomes quite cumbersome unless the do some downtown design on the PSU's and make them a lot smaller and lighter.

 

That's what I have right now to power my overclocked 680M.

Be aware you need the unlocked EC for the GT60 and GT70 (and their barebones) in order to unlock the use of more power too.

 

I really wished I had done better research before getting my NP9150. I love the 15" form, but the NP9170 gets a better power supply, cpu and ram overclocking, and an extra hdd bay

Looks like I won't be upgrading to a 680MX (or 780m/8970m if they have similar power requirements.) Unless the resellers offer a modified psu in the future, that is.

 

It likely won't even "just work" in the NP9170 either. You can always modify your own PSU too.

You can flash your NP9150 with NP9170 BIOS as well, to get all the features of the NP9170. But even then you can only overclock the i7-37x0, 38x0, 39x0 CPU's not the 36x0's, so a new CPU would be needed in your case.

All of this will be at the cost of extra power but more importantly heat. 400MHz faster CPU and 125W GPU will push the thermal limits. Better get used to the Fn+1

 

Part of the reason I went MSI is fully programmable fan tables...

 

I have messed a bit around with the fan table and I found out that running the fans at very low RPM while watching movies/surfing/writing etc works pretty good. My CPU temps went from 35C to around 45C but I can`t even hear my fans. Its almost dead silent. God I love my GT70

Never tried the opposite way though, but hey thats what the turbo fan mode is for

 

Thanks for the link to the modified psu, I remember reading every single page of that thread (and meaker trying to work with the asus psu) but I guess I missed that post.

I will probably end up upgrading my cpu at some point (probably once Haswell is out) if I'm able to upgrade to a 780m or 8970m in the future, so it would be nice to have a P170EM. BIOS flashing has always scared the crap out of me lol.

 

No can do. Haswell requires different chipset and a different socket (G3)

 

Ehh I think bad would be 95+ as the processors are designed to handle *cough cough 110c cough cough*

 

Good to tread carefully with BIOS update, however, use the resources here and you'll be in good hands. Obviously not without risk, but if you want added functionality, it comes with the territory. After reviewing the NP9370 I wanted a 17" laptop too though because the screen size made more of a difference than I thought it would. Ah well, next laptop will likely be a 17 inch.

 

Oh I know. I meant I would upgrade to a better Ivy Bridge Just wanted to wait until Haswell in hopes Ivy Bridge will get cheaper.

 

Maybe on a used one, but not real likely on a new one. But I understand where you're coming from. I may end up bumping up to an i7-3740QM as well, unless I can find a great deal on an i7-3920 i7-3940 XM CPU.

 

Exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking I may be able to find one used. I guess it all depends on pricing and what the new hardware looks like this year. It may be more economical to just sell the current laptop and upgrade to a new Sager... or Alienware...

 

How You do that? It's possible to chage fan cycle on this laptop?

 

Does it go back if MSI afterburner is closed? I assumed that you changed the fan table using MSI afterburner, but leaving MSI afterburner on also means the dGPU is always on though since it monitors dGPU.

 

With all the MSI laptops, you can modify the fan table thanks to Pherein's awesome software, unfortunately it doesn't apply to Clevo's barebones.

 

Oh yes Pherein tool is totally awesome