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    GTX 880M Benchmarks?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Nibiria, Jul 4, 2014.

  1. Nibiria

    Nibiria Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm wondering how much better it is compared to the GTX870M and GTX860M, because I'm shopping for a laptop and wondered how much is too much in terms of graphics. I want the laptop to last but I don't want to get a graphics card I'll never need. Thoughts?
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    It's better to post what games you play rather than what GPU you want to buy.
     
  3. Nibiria

    Nibiria Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright, gotcha. The upcoming Borderlands games, Civ 5 and the upcoming game, DOTA 2, StarCraft 2, Skyrim, and probably the next Elder Scrolls if it's released within the next 2 or 3 years. I'm currently running a 560Ti on my desktop which has done fairly well but I'd want something slightly better -- don't know which GPUs fall under that category.
     
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    860M and up.
     
  5. Nibiria

    Nibiria Notebook Enthusiast

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    Even an 860 would work? That's surprising, thanks. I figured the 860 would be outscaled soon but I suppose not.
     
  6. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    There is both a Kepler and a Maxwell version of the 860M. The Maswell one isn't gonna be replaced anytime soon, it's the Kepler 870M and 880M that'll get Maxwell refreshes soon.
     
  7. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    If you can hold out a bit longer (well, a bit may easily become 6 months LOL) I would wait for Maxwell. Otherwise get a 780M as the 880M seems to be having issues in both Clevo and Alienware laptops. The 780M runs cooler, and is only 10% slower, which could be easily made up for with an OC. Ironically a 780M OC'd to 880M level performance still doesn't run as hot as the actual 880M.
     
  8. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    The 880M chips coming out are mostly thrash.. The 780M is probably the best bet but wait 3-6 months for the Maxwell refresh.. It will be worth it.
     
  9. Nibiria

    Nibiria Notebook Enthusiast

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    Could you guys point out some laptops with the 780M GPU for me? I was unable to find one earlier, all I can find is 870M and 880M. I need a laptop by August and was looking to buy either the MS60 Ghost Pro or a Sager(2k budget). I asked around and nobody ever said anything about heat issueswith the GPUs before (except in the MSI, but all thin notebooks run hot unfortunately).

    Additionally, why does everyone love Maxwell so much? I know nothing about it.
     
  10. WCFire

    WCFire Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't heard anything about "thrash" 880M cards. Why are people recommending the 780M over it?

    Up to 60% better performance, runs cooler, possibly cheaper, shoots rainbows, etc.
     
  11. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    The 880M chips run hot and and the vBIOS is broken so their clocks are screwed.. NVIDIA's drivers are also screwing it up more.. It doesn't seem to affect the 780M...

    To get the 780M, look at resellers like XoticPC who should still have 780M stocks and you can get refurbed or new AW17 from amazon with 780M...
     
  12. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    This thread should answer all your questions.
     
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    XxxKing YBxxX Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow, that is just inexcusable by nvidia. The r9 m295x really can't come fast enough...

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  14. WCFire

    WCFire Notebook Evangelist

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    lol. Of course I would have just ordered one of these...

    Hopefully it gets fixed soon. I don't want to have to return a machine for broken performance.
     
  15. jimbo4510

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    gtx 880m I get 3dmark11 score of 8306
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Similar as my OCd 780m.
     
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    That's standard out of box I haven't done nothing 2 it as of yet
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yep, because the standard clocks of an 880m is like a +135mhz 780m. But sadly there isn't much room above 1020mhz or so at stock voltage etc. They are the same GPU in the end, just OCd.
     
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    Yeah this time NVIDIA has really milked the Keppler Cow... There's no milk left now though :)
     
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    was there ever milk lol
     
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    10398.jpg

    My 780m says :hi2:

    I've seen some 780m/880m's push to 11k GPU.

    880m users are you getting throttling?
     
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    ive never seen mine at its rated boost speed ever
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Forget milk, they've mummified the dead cow, and is using that to beat an equally dead horse.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Lololololol!!!
     
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    No. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-920XM Processor,Alienware


    You only need to see it at the rated base clock. Boost is bonus and not guaranteed, even if the marketing machine of Nvidia is basically telling people different.
     
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    Wow. Over 10k single.gpu. Is It possible To Get Almost 20k In sli?
     
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    780m/880m are seriously beast cards by any measurement . I've got as far as 19500 GPU score in SLI on a single PSU. Brother Fox and Harlem I know have done higher with a dual PSU mod. I think they did break the 20k's on the GPU score.

    16338.jpg
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    I managed to get 8000+ on the 7970M when OCed so the 780M hitting 10K is hardly that impressive for a years improvement.. Let's see what maxwell can do... I think the results will be more spectacular....
     
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    Yeah but to be fair your 7970m is a absolutely rare unicorn silicon lottery win. I previously had a couple of 7970m's that were slightly above average compared with other benchmarkers and my GPUs couldn't get far beyond 13000 in CF compared with a current 19500. That's been a honest and healthy 50% gain for me. Even by your standards 8000 vs 10,000 is still a 20% gain in only around 1 year (780m came out about 1 year after 7970m).
    But yeah since then we've had sweet F.A. and a lot of us are waiting for a big jump from Maxwell.
    Let's hope the wait doesn't disappoint. I hope we see something that blows these cards out the water. I won't be holding my breath but I'll be ready to upgrade if the extra performance is there rather than only efficiency gains.
     
  30. Ethrem

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    Jesus... I didn't realize just how bad these are throttling... Look at the overlay of the two cards running 3DMark 11 with the stock vbios - the second card is not even maintaining its 954MHz rated clock... Something is intentionally throttling the second card, I never thought to look at the voltage before but how can that card be hitting the power limit when its not even at 1 volt?

    [​IMG]

    It shouldn't be any surprise that the score was so low: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P377SM-A

    For comparison... here's what Watch Dogs does

    [​IMG]

    As you can see, both cards are boosting pretty much the whole time.

    This makes benchmarks 1000000% useless with the stock vbios but at least it boosts in games.

    Being able to overlay the two cards like that is cool, I didn't know the log tool had that feature.
     
  31. jimbo4510

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    with those result's something doesn't add up green card runs hotter with less voltage and less core clock is that the second card
     
  32. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Yes, its the slave.

    Here's Valley for comparison.

    [​IMG]

    I'm starting to think that its Clevo's fault because of the way they designed the cooling for the slave...
     
  33. orankid

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    When I've got my laptop come with GTX880M and run some benchmark temp was also pretty high around 91C. Then I re-apply thermal paste with diamond compound and now its highest temp is around 83C. I just hope one day Nvidia will come out with new vBios to solve this issue though.
     
  34. Ethrem

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    vbios won't fix temps... it already aggressively throttles to maintain temperatures. My Clevo vbios throttles to keep the cards running around 80C with auto fans which means my master boosts most of the time but my slave gets knocked below reference frequency which in SLI means that cards aren't even running stock clocks.
     
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    I was playing bf4 the other night for about 3 hours.. after about 2 and a half hours I started getting stuttering and freezing. wondering if im getting thermal throttling?? I have 2x 880m and a 4810qm processor. its a clevo shell made by scan uk. if its gonna have problems they can take the laptop back!
     
  36. Ethrem

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    All 880M cards throttle, its just a matter of how much.

    Open up two instances of GPU-Z, click the drop down box in one to choose the second GPU, click on sensors in one, check log to file and name it gpu1 then do the same in the other but call it gpu2 and either download generic log viewer and put the text files in it or post them here in a zip file and I can make them for you to show what they are doing. Just run the log until you notice a slowdown, go into each GPU-Z and uncheck the log option, and you're done.

    It's the only way I know of to actually track what the GPUs are doing throughout a game session. Hwinfo only shows the info from one GPU.

    You can also download RTSS and Hwinfo and set the clocks to show on screen when you're gaming. Stock clocks are 954MHz, boost clocks are 993MHz - as long as you are at or over 954MHz you're fine.

    BF is a buggy game so it wouldn't surprise me if you aren't even throttling.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    The slave card gets a smashing are they the first to die
     
  38. Ethrem

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    They're still well within spec... the stock vbios keeps the card from passing 87C either the slave or the master. The throttle point for these cards is 94C. They're just hot...

    You can always turn the core down. Defeats the purpose of buying a faster card but reduces temps.

    Either way, nVidia cards don't commonly fail.

    Still, I'll likely upgrade this machine to Maxwell if the BIOS gets an update to support the new cards. It sucks spending as much money as I did just to turn around and spend probably another 1200 or so but that's how it is...
     
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    I haven't even had my laptop a month so I may end up sending it back yet. 3dmark 11 im scoring 12483.. im sure that should be a lot higher...
     
  40. Ethrem

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    Stock vbios will throttle 3dmark. That's normal behavior and happens regardless of temps. Flash the modded vbios if you want to benchmark because you'll never see boost or in most cases even stock clocks for benchmarks.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    880m.png

    heaven running for 1 pass how dose that look?
     
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    I have 2 titans they barely hit 40 degrees in games unless it cyrsis 3