GTX 880m- What should I expect?

Hey guys,
I'm receiving my MSI GT70 Dominator Pro-890 tomorrow night, and I've read a lot about the laptop and it's incredible performance, but I can't help feeling like the 880m is gonna disappoint me, especially after reading about the throttle issue for the stock vbios.. How long do you think the 880m will serve me, will it be a year before I'll have to start turning settings down on most games? And should I flash the svl7 vbios or has the throttle issue been fixed?
Also, how will the laptop perform for the following games:
Shadow of Mordor
Far Cry 4
The Witcher 3
AC: Unity

PC Specs:
i7 4800MQ 2.7-3.7 GHz
12 GB Ram DDR3L SDRAM
GTX 880m 8GB GDDR5

Thanks a bunch

 

probably not much better than a 780m. I love my gt dragon 780m tho, but im sure it wont hit 60fps on witcher 3 on graphics higher than medium-high.

Also ubitrash games will give you bad performance regardless of spec.

 

Well you are only getting a single 880M laptop. In this case you should be able to get good performance out of it. In SLI it is more difficult to manage the heat.

I disagree with the previous comment in that FC3 performs very well. I believe Ubisoft Montreal are once again developing the latest FC4 which means it should be ok. Other Ubisoft games apparently don't perform so well.

 

Well it doesn't matter with the GT70.. The single fan design means that it will be an oven... OP, you should have got the GT72..

 

I wish people would stop spreading that stupid rumor. If you have two different video cards on opposite sides of the machine with their own fans and you have adequate ventilation, this is entirely false. Depending on the design, one card might be a few degrees hotter than the other but the overall heat isn't that different between an SLI and single card machine. Hell in a lot of cases SLI machines are still cooler because they tend to be bigger so they can dissipate more heat.

OP, 880M will throttle to stay cooler or run hot and throttle. It's really a balancing act. I used the modded vbios and set mine to 849MHz @0.893v and called it a day after getting tired of the 90+ temps with the modded vbios and the bad throttling of the stock.

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Just wondering GTarablus, why didn't you go for the GT72? Otherwsise, if you use turbofan, you shouldn't have problems with the Boost clocks at all. I game with my 780m at 980mhz core clock all the time with 100% utilization and stable. The GPU is very powerful, and as for now nothing except SLI machines can give you more performance in laptops.

Depending on how well it is optimized, you should have 0 problems with the games listed.

 

Well cause the cheapest GT72 with an 880m was 2,500$, and I had trouble getting this one for 1,850 and since this is the only chance I have for the next year I had to jump on it.
And noise isn't a problem for me so fans will be on turbo, plus in my room I have a collet master pad so I don't expect it to get too hot.
So basically I should leave the stock vbios?

 

How should we know how 880M should perform in 4 unreleased games whose system requirements haven't even been announced yet? Do I look like freakin' Nostradamus to you?

Well your laptop must be made of magic (again) as even TotalBiscuit with his 3930K and dual Titans couldn't max out Blood Dragon at 1080p and "Dunia 2 Engine doesn't run well on anything" per his review. He had to drop some settings down 2 notches to maintain 60 FPS.

Ubisoft Montreal was also responsible for ACIII & IV and Watch Dogs which were all horrendously optimized, so yeah...you can't teach an old dog new tricks. And being Ubisoft, they will always find a way to shaft PC gamers. Case in point "oh we'll start caring about PC more" and then locking The Crew to 30 FPS.

 

They've been announced dude, a quick look at either their steam pages or game debate will gave you the requirements.

 

Shadow of Mordor yes, but what about the other three?

Game Debate info is prediction, not legit.

 

Yeah stick to stock vbios for now. Monitor temps with HWmonitor and it is great you have a cooler master pad, I have the U2 and it works great! Anyways I don't think you should worry about those games. As I said, for now there is nothing with more power. If your computer fails to run those games ok, rest assured EVERYONE will suffer too.

Ubisoft indeed has shady ports. Hell I still have troubles with GPU utilization with splinter cell series, because the game refuses to tax my system so I get dodgy performance from time to time. But at any rate, your computer is powerful and for the price, it was a great buy.

 

What? Blood dragon ran even better than fc3 lol!

I ran at 1080p max settings no AA on the old 7970m not overclocked. Care about 60fps it was smooth in eyes of the beholder and it was fun.

Why get so hung up about fps just enjoy the game. FC is awesome. I daresay did you even play it? Quite an aggressive tone there man! Chill

 

How hot should I let it run? Obviously it'll throttle when it should but from what I read MSI Dominator's withstand heat well, as in can run hot without taking real damage.

And except for the AC series all Ubisoft games ran well on my sh*tty laptop (3610qm, 7670m). Even Far Cry 3 squeezed 30-40 on medium+. Prince of Persian Sands of Time ran at solid 60 with all settings at max.

 

With an 880M, expect 90s as par for the course if you flash a vbios mod. Stock most of them throttle to maintain lower 80s but msi may have loosened that a bit.

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No it runs worse, especially when you shoot stuff and the neon particle effects are on-screen, lots of dropped frames there. Being that Blood Dragon is an expandalone of Far Cry 3, Ubisoft basically ripped the island out of the original game, added a red filter and a bunch of other crap on top of it, and didn't bother to optimize it in typical Ubisoft fashion, hence you get a game that both looks and runs worse. And don't even get me started about the unremovable mouse acceleration in both games. Completely unacceptable for a shooter.

Yes I have both games. Two copies of each actually, one legit purchased on Uplay and one torrented which I play on because the Uplay copies don't work.

 

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences. For many including myself it ran just fine. The game was not to be taken seriously. It was original in that way and very fun. For a single play through at least!

 

Blood Dragon was an 80's caricature for sure, but Far Cry 3 took itself way too seriously at times and that hurt the game.

 

I was going to quote opticeps and say you probably weren't using AA, but you just admitted it XD.

Listen, "maxed" settings in a game includes AA. If you say "I ran that maxed without AA at 60fps!" then that's a different story to me who, with two 780Ms, cannot maintain 60fps constant in Far Cry 3 at 1080p with MSAA turned all the way up. In my case, I would be staring at you trying to figure out why my 780Ms are exceedingly broken in that game, and probably pull my hair out for a couple days. I had someone else with SLI 680s tell me the same thing, how he got 90+ fps in FC3 maxed with stock 680s and I struggled for 60. Then he said "well I left anti aliasing off" when I told him it was impossible.

Anyway, FC3 like a lot of other games probably badly implements MSAA is why. Killing floor is another example of one. It's actually cheaper GPU-wise to force 32xQ CSAA via nV control panel than it is to use 8x MSAA via in-game settings

 

The DX11 path in FC3 and Blood Dragon is suboptimal. The DX9 renderer already looks great. For a large performance hit, DX11 adds little in the way of additional eye candy besides subtle improvements in AO (HBAO & HDAO) and AA (MSAA & AtC). It's not using any of the marquee DX11 features such as tessellation and MT rendering. DX11 multithreading was a menu option in the FC3 beta but it was patched out of the final game because AMD's driver doesn't support it (FC3 is a Gaming Evolved title) and it's buggy/doesn't work. You can still enable it in the config file, but performance is the same or worse even when I underclock my CPU to make the game more CPU-bound.

 

I don't know. From what I've played of Blood Dragon so far (albeit not a whole lot yet), it's quite fluid, 45-48 fps with ultra details on 860m. I like the game so far. Pretty good humor and throwback to the 80's games...

I think some people get so obsessed with settings and FPS that they forget to enjoy the game.

 

Witcher 3 at 1080p will be medium settings on the 780M/880M.

I probably will play it in a year or so, when my GT70 is two years old so I can justify upgrading to an MSI GT7x with whatever follows the GTX 900M series, which should be the legit 20nm Maxwell cards. Those are the real game changers.

 

This.

And yeah Blood Dragon is an awesome game, really glad I christened my Clevo with it.

 

Frame rate and my enjoyment of a game are intrinsically linked. I can't really enjoy a shooter unless it's at least 60 FPS. That's just how I am.

 

They're coming out on Xbox 1 and PS4. We'll be able to play Witcher 3 on med-high with single 580Ms XD

 

I sure hope so, that would make Witcher 3 less demanding than Witcher 2 while looking prettier if the pre-release footage is anything to go by. Unless CDPR pull a Watch Dogs-esque visual downgrade, but I have confidence that they're better than Ubisoft, it's not very hard to be in this day and age.

 

Well since via linus tech tips they could not downclock a GTX 480 to be as slow as the Xbox 1's GPU, and Xbox 1 is running that game on "PC high" settings... I'm fairly certain we should be more than capable of witcher 3 yummy goodness.

It's by no means an in-depth video, but it does say something. Here

 

Yeah but at what resolution? 720p? 792p?! 900p?!? Much pixels. Such next-gen. Wow.

In all seriousness though, don't discount CDPR and how much they can squeeze out of anemic console hardware. Just look at what they were able to do with Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 and how the lighting in places looks better than PC on Ultra.

 

Well considering Watch Dogs' unoptimized state + 792p high, I would say 580M OC'd + 1080p + medium-high blend settings = above 30fps and playable. Far less if someone has a stronger card =D.

 

You know Ubisoft's optimization sucks when they can only get 792p30 and 900p30 on the "next-gen" consoles.

 

You know Ubisoft's optimization sucks when you look at any Ubisoft game in the last ~4 years XD