GTX 900 series already Legacy?

Has any one seen this?

http://www.tech-critter.com/2016/07/nvidia-abandoned-maxwell-architecture.html?m=1

 

That just means it's out of production, of course they'll still develop drivers for it, even though Pascal is the new optimisation focus.

 

That's Ngreedia for ya, and all of us.
Because of ? AMD being a retard lowballer, Still AMD develops for the old gen GPUs but Nvidia has this staple policy of nerfing the old architectures over time.

 

Sad ... Just sad

 

Way to misinterpret this, to push an agenda.

 

Don't pretend to be angrily suprised over this, it has always been this way with AMD and NVIDIA. As soon as they launch a new architecture, of course the new one gets all the attention.

 

False. AMD continues to optimize anything that runs on GCN (which is, every card after the 6000 series), and it clearly shows. stock clock 7970M now achieves P6800 on 3dmark11 on 850/1200 and I've personally seen little over 8000 when overclocked. Not bad for a card from 2012. the same could not be said about a 680M or 780M, thanks to how nVidia gimps whatever is not current

 

The only reason why older AMD GCN cards are still getting performance improvements are because the newer cards still uses updated GCN.

 

Since Pascal is optimized Maxwell, it's quite probable that Maxwell will still benefit from new drivers while Kepler gets thrown to the wayside. Of course it's nvidia so you never really know...

 

*I was under the understanding that Pascal is a Maxwell tuned for high clock speed and some preemption optimization.

 

That's basically what it is and why Maxwell should benefit from driver updates much the same way that GCN performance has gone up on the AMD side. The question is whether nvidia will pull out the cripple stick for Maxwell cards anyway.

 

It makes it easy for AMD as they rebranded their mobile flagship GPUs (7970M to 8970M, stopped tracking since then).
And in terms of optimisation please show me recent game benchmarks instead, 3Dmark is nice but doesn't show the whole truth. To be fair my problems were mostly related to crossfire issues, a single card would probably run acceptably. The thing about nvidia was that you installed the card and just played, while with AMD I had to spend countless hours tweaking to make the game run somewhat smooth and watch the driver installation cause bluescreens (I'll never forget the launch of BF3... sad times).

 

so long as clevo makes a mxm 1080 then we should be OK

 

You P870 owners will be fine.. Its looks like the P750/770DM owners are going to be screwed from the looks of it!

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doesnt 980m run everything maxed already? i know i almost do with my lowly 965m...aiming for 200 fps or something

 

Define maxed.
If we say AAA game, 1080p, 60FPS, everything turned to right and on with x2 or x4 AA, then no.

 

highest settings fxaa 1080p 50 fps....im pretty sure it does this as i get at least 42fps maxed in all games cept maybe a handful

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980M.126692.0.html

thats stock

when overclocked im sure the 980m maxes nearly every game....question answered by self

 

You have to be careful with wording as a legacy product is no longer part of the main driver stack and only some driver releases support it.

 

Also, even though it is listed on the official nvidia page, I am sure it was some sort of a mistake. The Desktop 600 series is listed, while the notebook 600M series is not? "Real" legacy means that there will be driver updates supporting "legacy" cards only every few months. Nvidia just recently included the 400 series and now maybe the 500 series in that real legacy line, but 100% not the recent cards. It would be hilariously sad if they seriously abandon ALL their previous cards just to work on Pascal and up, they couldn't deal with the ****storm

 

Once again, maxed means every single graphics option available in the game at 60FPS. That is the definition of "maxed out" and your card certainly can't do it and the 980M can't do it either, especially on Gameworks titles (which whether we want to admit it or not, leaving those performance killers off now and saying we are maxed out is just like back in the day when people would leave AA off and claim they were maxed out - if it's in the game options, you're not maxed without it, no matter the performance cost to use it), and Pascal struggles with it as well in some titles.

 

R6 Siege at 90FPS. On ultra. Hahaha, no.
Prolly had that crappy AA on... How is it called again... Ah, Temporal Filtering.

 

@ryanev84 believes his 965M is more powerful than it really is. Mate, might I suggest you run Witcher 3 with everything, including HairWorks maxed?

 

Well he did say

So technically he's not claiming that therefore:


(swap "you" with "he")

 

Technically no is the best kind of no, right?

 

Exactly.
Edited my post accordingly

 

Good way to kill the 965M. It's definitely not built to handle that kind of load at all. Might as well be Furmark. Lol

 

True that. Witcher 3 taxes my GPU like no other game - even Fire Strike only brings temps to ~ 70°C, TW3 makes it go to 82.

Oddly enough, somehow I feel Ethan Carter Redux looks better than TW3, although it runs way faster as well. I hope CDPR throws in some graphical overhauls for the GOTY edition - maybe a Vulkan update.

 

Mine too, in fact I was playing witcher when my 680m started artifacting and dying side note, why vulkan instead of dx12? One would imagine it's more likely given tomb raider also got a dx12 patch. Although both new api's optimise mainly CPU intensive areas, while witcher predominantly tasks the GPU, no?

 

Two words: Windows 10.

 

After extensive tweaking that only needs to be done once I'm actually enjoying W10. It's like what W7 was after Windows Vista.

 

Geralt is too hard to handle for 860m. Him or his sorceresses friends .

 

The very fact that an OS requires tweaking, let alone extensive tweaking, has entirely put me off it. I needed to install just three things to get Windows 8.1 off the ground - StartIsBack, AeroGlass and BatteryBar. Microsoft could've made their own lives easier by simply issuing service packs to Windows 7, updating the installers, kernels and system libraries to work with modern technology like Speed Shift, NVMe, XHCI, UEFI and the like, but nooo. They just had to fall for the 'PCs are dying' hype and make Windows a half-arsed OS. Many of the useful changes to Windows 8/10 like the Mission Control-esque view, the power user menu and such could have been elegantly implemented with an updated version of 7.

I'm not going to go on another anti-Windows 10 rant, but safe to say that I will not upgrade until forced to by EOL.

The lack of Windows Aero is another thing - I like my graphically-intensive UIs, thank you very much.

Hence Vulkan rather than DX12.

 

You're right, not going to argue with your points. I just dislike everything about w8, so a tweaked w10 is a nice alternative for me. I understand Microsoft going for it, even though I condemn them for their exploitation of unknowing users (>90%).

 

Visually I actually like W10 and for the photo app. That's where it ends.

 

I mean, to be fair, every OS I've used requires tweaking, even Ubuntu Server.

 

Sure, but the extent to which we power users need to go to make Windows 10 remotely useable is ridiculous.

 

lol @ windows 10 hate

On a side note, I guess since the 900 series is legacy, it's time to throw in my G751 in the trash. Think I will go tower this time.

 

SRS:

I dont think my card is the best available. Im just suprised with mine personally it nets 3k more in 3dmark 11 over stock thats significant. I can indeed max alot of games and witcher 3 runs at 22fps maxed. so yea crysis 3 witcher 3 and a few others cant be maxed. but thats not to say i cant max the graphics out. sometimes adding or upping a setting only diminishes framerates and adds nothing new or exciting in terms of visuals. personally 99 percent of games look identical on high vs ultra.

you kinda lead everyone to beileve its a slightly better 960m when in reality my card is basically 960m sli if that were to exist. i think scoring 10400 gpu in 3dmark 11 is more significant and indicative of how well it performs in game. with a score like that you can expect 60fps on high settings 1080p.

I AM HAPPY WITH IT

Why do you guys care if a game is maxed. can someone direct me to screen shots of anygame 2013 and up where high looks vastly different than ultra and is worth the 20-30 fps hit.

 

You're using flawed logic. Reduced settings and saying that you've maxed the game is a lie. Just because you don't feel that there is any noticeable benefit doesn't mean that you can claim you maxed the game when you didn't.

 

Since when has a year or more old architecture ever got a bump in performance from a driver releaser aside from game ready driver releases alongside the game release. Even then it's mostly stability I'd imagine.

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365.19 introduced Kepler optimizations that have persisted up to 369. It's rare for nVidia but it happens.