GTX 980 launched for notebooks

Looks like the new MXM cards also get better power supplies and VRMs (gonna be fun to see some overclocking on this chip)



We also get notebook fan control



Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9649/nvidia-gtx-980-in-notebooks

 

Nice! Can't wait to see what 2016 brings. They did wonders with Maxwell.

 

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Amazing. Cloudfire, looking at your signature and this article, I think you may be on to something. LOL. "Mobile" gaming is changing for sure. Look at the R9 Nano, it looks like an MXM card. I also find it funny that Nvidia lists these cards as "Built for overclocking" after the shenanigans that took place earlier this year.

 

Should be available in October, right? I may actually be interested in this.

 

1421MHz on the MSI at 82C... There are desktop cards that can't pull that off.

 

I would hate to see the prices on these GPUs, I will stay with the 970m sli, thank you.

 

Costs less than 980M SLI. There's not a huge mark up, at least with Clevo machines.

 

yeah, price will definitely be a factor. Wonder if this will continue to trend into the future. mobile counterparts to desktop releases.

 

I know does anyone know the price of the actual card? Like a Clevo 8GB 980m was like $725 on RJ Tech, what will this be?

 

That's always the issue with mobile computing. The laptop 980M costs more than twice as much as the desktop 980.

I'm guessing they'll still charge a massive premium here too.

Although, maybe not. Unless I'm mistaken, MXM GPUs aren't manufactured by NVIDIA - OEMs make them. Which would explain their higher cost, especially since they probably don't sell as many of them. If NVIDIA starts making these mobile desktop cards, maybe the prices will drop.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

The most a mobile GPU has ever cost was $1099. I wouldn't expect it to be higher than that.

 

If Nvidia starts making mobile cards they will make a new proprietary connector so nobody else can make their own cards. And probably won't be any cheaper, because they're cheap raping bastards.

 

Unless Clevo releases a standard MXM card, you won't be able to buy the 980 for older machines. Clevo opted to go with a modified MXM card with massive cooling and a larger footprint in order to be able to stuff the 200W monster in with a desktop 6700K.

 

Well, impressed that after all the shenanigans in the other thread that mentioned this card months ago, the thing exists. Brilliant ha

Will be very curious on the price and temps. For me, the current 970m/980m's are still no slouches, so can't see a reason not to just wait for Pascal if you have a current Maxwell card.

Exciting stuff though, glad to see Nvidia step up.

 

GTX 980M VRAM runs at 1250MHz.
Mobile GTX 980 VRAM runs at 1750MHz.

Just sayin...

 

Now i am really curious what Asus water cooled laptop could do with this unlocked card.

 

Wait wait wait wait wait......!!!!!!????

980 desktop on laptop???

Does this work on the Sager NP9377 S??

 

according to prema theres a good chance that itll come out in regular mxm format with a smaller tdp envelope.

run it at stock clocks with the dock connected and let it throttle to 980M levels without the dock connected

not yet, the full fledged 200W TDP model has an extended mxm board that doesnt fit in regular mxm 3.0B laptops like the NP9377. just wait a bit though, as mentioned before, regular sized mxm versions of the 980 should become available in the near future, expect lower performance due to smaller tdp envelopes though!

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New MXM type?

Maybe this is a precursor to mobile HBM designs (Pascal/Arctic Islands)? It makes sense with the bigger PCB. Exciting possibilities.

 

I don't doubt Clevo will release a standard MXM card but that doesn't mean it will be prevalent enough for the average person to find one and the cooling requirements will likely make it not much more worthwhile than a 980M.

 

sure, thats a different point altogether though there surely are people whod wanna upgrade from, day, 880M or 780M, and that would definitely make sense if pricing is somewhat comparable to the 980M i for one am surely not upgrading

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Pretty disappointing that the GT80 will have this in SLI but the P870DM will not. Maybe when the MXM 3.0b version of the 980 gets released then P870DM can take two of them, but it likely won't be fast as this 980.

 

It wouldn't even be an upgrade for most of the machines that could potentially cool it since they already have 980M SLI. Lol

The GT80 isn't using the full 200W card... It may not have much of an advantage over the P870DM. Besides the GT80 CPU won't be able to keep up.

 

two scenarios:

1) the msi gt80 has regular sized mxm boards of the 980 with lower tdp envelope

2) a new mobo revision of the gt80 lets it sli two 200W tdp fully unleashed 980

i bet the former one is more likely, whereas clevo p870dm will sport the fully unleashed 200W beast

that and what ethrem said concerning cpu performance! so no worries, msi is just good in marketing numbers

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As of right now, P870DM can only be configured with 980M SLI or single 980.

Where did you get that the mobile 980 is 200W? That would make SLI impossible for anything but Clevo due to their power bricks maxing out at 330W. Per AnandTech:

 

I would rather have Nano XFIRE but this is nice. I will wait for MSI GT80 benchmarks to see what 2 of these bad boys can do.

 

The TDP bump is likely to accommodate the fact that the chips are unlocked. No more +135MHz limit. Clevo and ASUS have custom boards, its likely that MSI will use standard MXM

 

I red somewhere that there is a limit of 200MHz on these GX980.

 

It's fully unlocked with a thermal cap of 82c

 

One of the videos said +700MHz but it's rare for Maxwell to pass into the 1500MHz range. There's already been shown MSI @ 1421MHz.

 

Ok. Yeah i found the source. Its actually a just a suggestion (gaurenteed value). The actual words are:

Source: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...p-gtx-980-gpu-into-monster-17-inch-notebooks/

 

Far from fully unlocked unless you flash a modded vBIOS. In stock trim you can only adjust core and memory frequencies and fan curve. Power limit and voltage are locked away and temperature limit is fixed.

 

This is the death of MXM 3.0b folks.

 

Well, yeah, that's true, however, oower limit and voltage might not need to be adjusted far anyway. If the power limit is around 200W on these lower consumption chips that will be enough. Voltage increases on the 980 are not necessary.

 

So, they went the ASUS (MXM type) road in the end. Nothing surprising, you need to put somewhere all the power delivery stuff it would also mean bigger heat-spreader on top. The thing is, actually I HOPE it is, that this is a temporary patch till the HBM chips come. As I said before, I see no problem to fit a full HBM chip and all the required power delivery components on what we know as MXM-B. I do HOPE that this wont be the base for the future standard, since 1. the hole placement seems to be the same as it is now (not enough space for HBM chip) and 2. it would mean no HBM for us with MXM-B machines. This sparks another thought - there would be 4 modules - 1. MXM-A; 2. MXM-B 3. this new thing and 4. I REALLY HOPE MXM-B sized, but with different mounting holes, new module for HBM chips. We'll see after about half an year or so, but the chances are, that there wont be HBM MXM-B modules, unless MSi pulls a miracle.

 

I don't think this is the end of MXM. I think this is a special "one time" thing.

We've never seen this before. I doubt it will become mainstream.

 

We have not seen them do a desktop GPU proper, no, but custom MXM isn't new. Asus has done it forever. If this test proves successful for nVidia, it could be the start of simultaneous desktop and laptop card releases with the same hardware on board, especially if Pascal ends up being even more efficient.

 

When overclocking it'll hit temp limit well before power limit if the PCPer video is any indication. Ryan was getting up to 86C with mild OC on the GT72, which is supposed to have some of the best GPU cooling. Maxwell has a temp limit of 87C so there's almost no remaining headroom, which is probably why the core frequency was bouncing around so much as it brushed up against that limit.

 

Hmm that thing won't fit

 

What gpu was that much?

 

I wonder if this would work with a Alienware 18 r2 hmm mm :d

 

WHere'd you see that? Desktop can do 91c.

 

*Mobile Maxwell

 

Anandtech writes:

This GPU is as "desktop" as GTX 880M was a desktop GTX 680. The difference this time is that Nvidia confuse the heck out of everyone with not using a mobile name for the GPU anymore. They seem to use desktop VRAM though since its now running at 1750MHz which is pretty impossible to run with lower voltage mobile VRAM.

Unless Anandtech is wrong and this chip runs at same voltage as desktop GTX 980. Then its a desktop GTX 980.


Here are preliminary results from Eurogamer.



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-nvidias-next-laptop-graphics-chip-is-gtx-980

 

Notebookcheck got some numbers up as well:
17300 in 3DMark11 GPU score. Not bad!
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980-Notebook.150599.0.html


EDIT: It is a desktop GTX 980 in all aspects it seems, so thats why they call it laptop GTX 980 instead of GTX 990M. Eurogamer listed 165W TDP which is GTX 980 TDP, but I thought it was a typo since they didnt take voltage reduction in to consideration.

Notebookcheck writes

Gonna be interesting to see the temps of this thing. And power headroom for overclockers

 

It is a 980 for all intents and purposes, only difference is max boost is 50 MHz higher on desktop 980 (1266 MHz vs. 1216 MHz). That's where the small perf difference comes from. Not like 680 vs. 880M, which was a bigger gap: 1110/1500 vs. 993*/1250.

*Throttle

 

PCWorld posted some interesting facts from an interview:

Binning:

Engineering difficulties:

Improved power phases vs GTX 980M

 

got that from prema! he also mentioned that only clevo and their P870DM will have the absolute unleashed full-fledged version of the 980 desktop mobile with a TDP envelope of 200W. the respective heatsink has six (yep, thats right) heatpipes connected to it and basically covers both mxm slots in that machine to make use of both gpu fans. thats why im so curious about internal pics of that beast!

nope, the oc cap is actually +700 Mhz might as well be infinite though

thermal cap? voltage cap? only until prema has gotten his hands on it...

cloudfire quoted something interesting there with the power phases, btw! its said that the regular sized mxm boards of the 980 desktop mobile will sport less power phases and thus smaller tdp envelopes, on one hand making them compatible with existing machines (thus also sli-able), on the other hand somewhat slower that the full-fledged TDP monster on the extra-wise mxm boards

more than 200 mhz should be EASY. i can already do +250 mhz on my "crappy" 3 power phase design 980M

nah, not worried about that. its just gonna be an outlier, not the rule

haha, that would be so awesome! especially in that gpu-universal m15x of yours but no worries, just wait for the regular-sized mxm boards

same situation as king of interns just wait for the regular mxm version and u can rock youre aw 18 r2 (IF it doesnt go crazy with throttling such as with the 900M series )

wont matter anyways once we get the respective prema vbios

not worried in that regard, especially when we talk about clevo DM machines

 

@jaybee83 200W GTX 980 and 90W desktop Skylake CPU inside a notebook.
What can possibly go wrong

I bet notebooks will become very interesting for thieves in the future. Not for the hardware but all the copper itself. I bet notebook manufacturers will catch on and say you don`t need gym membership anymore if you buy their notebooks. "Free weight training included"