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    GTX 980M Benchmarks thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by naldor, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. kevin_172

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    Running in Valley clocks were stuck on boost clocks. But GPU load was all over the shot. Sometimes as low as 37% If I get time in work today I will get some overlooking and battlefeild 4 gaming done!
     
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    Running in Valley clocks were stuck on boost clocks. But GPU load was all over the shot. Sometimes as low as 37% If I get time in work today I will get some overlooking and battlefeild 4 gaming done!
     
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    Right so far I'm at the +135 on core no problems. Mostly sits on them clocks and is fluctuating now and again but nothing major (only tested on Valley so far)

    Memory I have gone up +150 so 1328MHz. Running spot on no artifacts and I have mid 50's on the CPU and low 60's on the GPU.

    What can I push the memory to on stock vBios? And what should I be using to overclock the CPU?

    I missed you wanted to know what system I have rob... Lol

    Clevo 370sm-a
    I7 4810
    16gb ram
    Gtx 980m sli
    Samsung ssd and hdd
    Killer wireless card

    Think that's about it
     
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    You said you had low GPU load on Valley, so that doesn't really answer the questions I was asking, but thanks for testing it though.

    I'd initially wanted to see what the clocks did when you had 100% GPU usage under these conditions:

    1) Do clocks fluctuate on stock vBIOS or just run at max boost when loaded with a game that's pushing GPU load to a consistent near 100% GPU load?
    2) Same question as number 1, but at max overclock settings on stock vBIOS.
    3) Same question as number 1, but at max overclock settings on modified vBIOS which allows for overclocking beyond +135Mhz limit.

    Maybe try Unigine Heaven maxed out so that you have average fps around 60 (increase AA to high levels if fps is too high or even DSR maybe), that way if the fps is not too high then it will be GPU limited & you will be pushing the GPU to 100% usage consistently.

    (You asked me some questions. Run the memory at whatever is stable, but where performance is seen to increase with an increase in memory clock - sometimes increasing the clock on GDDR5 doesn't result in an increase in performance because error correction can outpace the increase in memory clock. Don't know much about CPU overclocking, lot of people use Intel XTU.)
     
  5. kevin_172

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    Heaven been running 20 min now and has had upper 90% usage whole time. Clocks seem to fluctuate but only one some parts of the test. Other parts it's 1261mhz.

    I have been watching it now for the past 10 min and it's been upper 90% the whole time! Min clock I have see while fluctuating is 1211mhz

    Will do a benchmark now on standard clocks

    +135 core

    +50 mem 100mem and 150 em and so on and will post results
     
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    Hi guys,

    Posting my firestrike ultra score. 980m SLI Total 4122 GPU 4250 Physics 9447 (4910mq)

    Is my machine ready for 4K?
     

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    Sounds good! Good info. Yep, interested to hear the same kind of info from you again, but at your standard clocks you suggested too, and also on your further overclock settings you listed.
     
  8. kevin_172

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    Heaven benchmarks

    Dx11, ultra quality, extreme tessellation, 8x anti-aliasing and 1920x1080 resolution

    Standard clock settings

    Ffs 90.1
    Score 2269
    Min fps 26.6
    Max fps 183

    +135 core

    Fps 94.9
    Score 2389
    Min fps 27.7
    Max fps 200.7

    +135 core +50 mem

    Fps 94.8
    Score 2387
    Min fps 27.8
    Max fps 199.6

    +135 core +100 memory

    Fps 95.6
    Score 2408
    Min fps 28
    Max fps 196.2
    Struggles to keep max boost clocks. Fluctuating alot in that test.
     
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    That's good Kevin, was it just in your +135Mhz/+100 Memory test that the clocks fluctuated more than on your +135Mhz test you did? If so, maybe you're bumping up against the limits of the power throttle, which might be cured by a modified vBIOS that some of the guys here have been testing. What kind of fluctuations were you getting in your +135Mhz/+100 Memory test?
     
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    Only 50 - 60mhz fluctuations but it hardly hit the boost max clock at all. Was just all over the place. I tried to bump it up to 125mhz and lost points and on 150mhz memory I got a perm black screen after a few min.

    I'm also wondering if I'm also reaching the limits of the single power adapter?
     
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    And yes the +100 showed alot more fluctuation than the +50 but I can't see why I lost score on the +50 memory overclock
     
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    Cool, you've found your max memory clock then, that's good. What is the wattage of your power adapter? I think it's probably throttle from the vBIOS though, if your PSU is struggling to provide power then you're likely to get shutdowns, screen dimming, stuff like that rather than just throttling. Have you got a Kill-A-Watt meter so you can measure how many watts the PSU is sucking from the wall?

    (Not sure why you lost score on the +50Mhz Memory, might have just been natural variation from test to test & 50Mhz might not have much of an effect anyway.)
     
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    Let me make this simple robbo.
    108/103 is in no way shape or form enough power.
    People with these cards should know what im already talking about.
     
  14. Robbo99999

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    What's 108/103? (Yes, you have to make it simple for me!)
     
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    Power table entries

    English translation.
    108 W/ 103 W
     
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    Ah, so basically you're saying that the throttling that Kevin is seeing is due to the vBIOS settings as I had thought and suggested. Very good. Interesting that it doesn't take much of an overclock to trigger it then. Would be interesting to see the effect of a modified vBIOS on the same testing regime that Kevin did, but with an even higher overclock. (I'm a fan of Unigine Heaven for it's 100% GPU usage (or high 90's)! Which is worst case scenario for power throttling.)
     
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    We've been pointing this out since the 580M days. Which is also changeable by any user on this forum. And that goes for the 980M as well. That will get stock vbios off the ground from day one.
    On stock voltage you are able to run close to 200+ core and 400+ memory. He is no where near close to this as it stands.
     
  18. Robbo99999

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    I don't get what you're saying, couldn't understand your post, full of irrelevant stuff like 580M and incomplete sentences and thoughts.
     
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    Then we shall leave it at that.
     
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    Excellent, we don't have very productive conversations anyway.

    I'm looking forward to seeing some good testing on a modified vBIOS when it comes out for these 980M/970M's - I feel I've got a flavour of how Maxwell behaves and performs on the stock vBIOS now. Maxwell's looking good!
     
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    I disagree, can still have discussions about it, and understand it without owning said card, of course if people don't offer good info then you can't understand how they work, but Kevin gave good info there. You wouldn't be having many tech discussions if only people who owned said item was in a position to discuss it. Anyway, hopefully this will be my last post in response to you tonight, as I said we don't have productive conversations.
     
  23. J.Dre

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    @John,

    Does the 4930MX/4940MX bottleneck 980M SLI when it's overclocked? That 4930K is a beast.
     
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    In games or programs which only use 4 cores or so, the 4930K at the same clocks as a 4930MX etc (meaning its extra cores and threads are useless) will as far as I know actually underperform compared to a 4930MX due to lower IPC.

    In about 0.01% of games at 1080p and 60+ fps, no current CPU on the market is enough for that kind of system. In every other instance, it'll be perfectly fine. Even this 4800MQ here is technically fine for that system, especially if 60fps or above 1080p resolutions are your target.
     
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    I meant for benching. I figured it wouldn't in games.
     
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    3Dmark always loves extra cores as the CPU test threads as many cores as you have (up to a point). When driving very high FPS then yes the CPU becomes more important. In games the CPU has a fair impact in the 120fps region.
     
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    Valley is purely singlethreaded so it won't matter. 3DMark 11 and Firestrike etc I don't know; as far as I saw when doing my firestrike runs my CPU load wasn't even NEAR to 80% far less 100% with my 780Ms. I can't accurately answer this without having a 4910MQ (and OCing it) or a 4930MX and two 980Ms, which I highly doubt anyone is going to just give me on goodwill XD
     
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    Only if you don't have enough power to sustain what you're over clocked at. Also based on room, cpu and gpu temps.
    This particular bottle-neck I speak of is where you start losing cpu speed or performance because of your over clock. And this will also bring down gpu performance as well.

    Example of what you gain.
    Run a benchmark at stock, then run it again with cpu being over clocked. This will tell you if a game or bench is "using" the cpu to enhance it's self.

    People call it bottle-necking. I call it added performance when going faster on the cpu. (Same thing, but like to look to the more positive of the two)
    Some test or games take cpu speed into consideration while others take more cores into consideration. BF4 will use as many cores as it has access too. (That's cores or single thread per core.)
    bf4-cores.JPG
    And that is a stock cpu at 3.7 ghz
     
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    3DMark 11;

    P10789
    with Generic VGA(1x) and Intel Core i7-4700MQ (GTX 980M)
    Graphics Score
    12614
    Physics Score
    7581
    Combined Score
    7440

    FWIW: my i7 is overclocked +200 mhz via Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (Original score)



    P11239
    with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M(1x) and Intel Core i7-4900MQ
    Graphics Score
    12557
    Physics Score
    8893
    Combined Score
    8079

    No overclocks on CPU or GPU. Freshly installed Windows today and wanted to give this another go.



    P12170
    with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M(1x) and Intel Core i7-4900MQ
    Graphics Score
    13512
    Physics Score
    9464
    Combined Score
    9250

    Overclocked +135 Core +300Mem 4.1Ghz 1/2 Core, 4.0Ghz 3/4 Core



    P5349
    with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M(1x) and Intel Core i7-4700MQ
    Graphics Score
    5089
    Physics Score
    7362
    Combined Score
    5209

    My W230SS for reference: No overclocks CPU / GPU
     
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    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3512576

    Darn, it didn't go to the right place. Facepalm on me.
     
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    How much faster do you think the 980M is compared to a GTX680M in actual gaming?
     
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    i'm sure you can find benchmarking scores i think the 980M will score much better than the 680M.

    EDIT: what's the power draw at stock speeds? enough for a 240W PSU?
     
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    Thanks, nice run) For some weird reson my firestrike scores with desktop 4770K 4.5Ghz and SLI 970 at 1506/3800 are lower than yours)) But 3dmark11 are fine, 30500 GPU vs mine 33500GPU! It might be windows update that ruined it, dunno. Have to check gaming benchmarks as well. Do you have Metro LL or Tomb Raider for comparison?

    Regards
     
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    Thanks Red Line.
    Im up too 32k gpu now.
    And I have installed all windows updates.
     
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    My laptop is giving me the hump now.. cant play BF4 coz it keeps crashing and then when that happens everything starts freezing and going to pot...

    john running ultra settings and 200% for gfx quality im not even hitting 60FPS. lucky to keep stable at 30 tbh. if this right or something wrong?
     
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    sounds like installing a 980m is simple but the performance is a mixed bag!
     
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    Mixed bag because of vbios. The hardware itself, pretty damn impressive.
     
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    as in the stock vbios?

    well, i hope you and svl7 breakthrough on the 980m vbios - no pressure now :D
     
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    Not using a stock vbios.
    Does stock work? Some what.

    And yes, we have been working on it today. Found out a few things as well. :)
     
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    cool! take your time i probably won't get a 980M till you're ready with the vbios anyway.

    you're doing the community a great service!
     
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    Dude, you're STILL on the 680m? Man, I had to delete some messages in my inbox to make rook and came across our discussions from years ago when we were both buying those machines. Haha, and both my 880m/980m purchases have been equally as stressful.

    I wonder if that's why my Sager has been absolute garbage since I bought it? Or maybe the issues I've been having are actually hardware related. Guess I'll find out once I RMA this unit.
     
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    Don't know. I bought this one used and it worked with no issue what so ever. I was rather in shock to be Honest. And after me modding it it's still working perfectly fine. Guess I got lucky. :)
     
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    Just drawing from what I can see, I can say with complete conviction that it's probably well beyond twice as fast in all categories.

    That being said, for comedy purposes...

    Could you possibly relate to what bonuses I'd get from upgrading to a newer machine with a 980M? :D
     
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    1.5Ghz on mobile GPU, awesome job! Did you increase voltage much, any power consumption figures at such overclock? Hey, what's the ASIC on your cards?)

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    Maybe someone here is able to help me.
    I've cross flashed a clevo GTX980M 8GB to MSI to upgrade my laptop (msi gt70 based whitebook).
    Unfortunately after upgrading the Bios of the machine too I'm left with the fan going into panic mode (full speed) after about 30 minutes when I connect a external screen and run games.
    With the updated BIOS and EC the problem seems at least to be gone when using the internal screen only. Before that new bios the intel HD driver even crashed when I booted with the external screen connected.
    This is driving me CRAZY.
    What I did not yet try is another vBios and unfortunately I lost the original clevo bios.

    Does someone have an idea what might be going on ? This seems to be somehow connected to optimus and the intel hd4600.
    So if some kind soul could PLEASE send me the clevo or later/other MSI vBios for GTX980M 8GB I (I'm using 84.04.22.00.0A P04 B-oard) ) would be really grateful !
    Or if someone has any idea why the EC is going into panic mode after a random time (in 2D it typically happened sooner than in 3D mode , full screen might also play a role - I'm not 100% sure about the rules yet).
     
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    Hahaha yea I'm still on the GTX 680M and it works exactly as it did on day one. I'm on Windows 8.1 (with the Windows 7 GUI Mod Startisback) and it still doesn't get temps above 70C and plays every game Ive thrown at it. I'm tempted by the 980M but I will see what performance I get on GTA 5 before I make any decisions. I must have had the GPU for 2 years now. Where did you buy your new problematic laptop from? Did you get to experieince the power of the 980M Vs the 680M before you had to RMA?
     
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    Did you take the step yet to flash svl7's modified vBIOS to it, so that you can overclock your 680M beyond the +135Mhz limit? You can easily get 880M performance (and beyond) from your 680M by doing that if your cooling is good.
     
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    A 680M will never get or surpass an OC'd 780M or a * WORKING* OC'd 880M (yeah those rare things exist on this planet, somewhere. Probably in ASUS machines with their 4GB unique cards). The memory and core count limit it too much. But it can easily ballpark these with the core OCs for sure; especially in games which aren't very memory limited.
     
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