GTX260M VS Mobility Radeon Hd 4850

Ok the ones im looking at both are 1GB GDDR3 the resolution of the laptop with the HD 4850 Is 17" and is 11680x1050 and Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt - ENS that lappy in $1300 and the other is Intel® Core™2 Quad mobile processor Q9000
Features 4 processing cores, 1066MHz system bus, 6MB L2 cache and 2.0GHz processor speed per core.The said GTX 260m And the screen is 1600 x 900 so at native
So at there native resolution how will they do?
EG: Crysis,CS:S Stress test ect any other modern games also how future proof are these laptops

Also with the gtx 260m if i got the $999 of it wich is a 1366x768 screen what should i expect eg settings on crysis and fps

i have seen the first one play crysis at Very high at native resolution without lag so im impressed found another of other laptop running it at its native res but was lagging due to fraps (using custom config aswell)
The laptops:http://www.xoticpc.com/gt729-wsxga-order-p-2633.html?wconfigure=yes<----------THE FIRST ONE

THE OTHERS: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9568149&type=product&id=1218125774394
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9568112&type=product&id=1218125777703
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9556125&type=product&id=1218124208054
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9556072&type=product&id=1218124204092

 

11680x1050!!?!

The Mobility Radeon 4850 at 1680x1050 will probably perform as well as or better than the GTX 260M at 1600x900. Of course, at native resolution, the GTX 260M at 1366x768 will have the best performance.

So the Mobility Radeon 4850 is the more powerful of the two cards, but it also costs more.

P.S. I was considering the exact same options as you; ended up buying the Best Buy $999 G51VX-RX05 with the GTX 260M.

 

Weird time to buy a laptop.

Personally, I'd say that you should go and get yourself a Sager NP8690, or something with a Core i7 processor. Fairly soon, the whole C2D and C2Q line will be pretty much obsolete, and the manufacturers will be moving up to the Core i7 and soon to be Core i5 range.

However, if I had to choose one of the laptops you picked, I'd go with the MSI GT729. You will find that the P8700 will be sufficient for all games short of GTA IV, Supreme Commander, etc. The 4850 is also superior to the GTX 260M, in most games (if they are using the same processor).

Not to mention that almost all of the Asus Republic of Gamers line at the moment has numerous overheating issues, which need to be fixed. Overall, if you don't have the money for a Core i7 laptop, then go for the MSI GT729.

 

Well ill be buying the laptop around christmas so by that time the i7 ones will have come down and tbh i think the HD 4850 will be plenty powerful enough for 3-4 years (1-2 of High Settings) then 1-2 of meduim-high but not sure since DX11 is coming out o well i hav a Desktop for that XD

 

this is me repeating myself: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5437765&postcount=5

 

The first one GT729 by MSI I am not sure if that was ever released in the USA. But I would go with the GT729 if in fact it was released.

 

Admittedly, it runs fine, but the average user may be worried about it. You frequent the Asus forum, you know how many topics on there are about the heat in the G51 and G71.

 

Even if the GT729 was not released in the US, there is always the GT725. Is that still available?

I thought it was the rest of the world that didn't get the GT729, I know Australia never got it.

 

so say it gets hot, but do NOT say it overheats, this is mis-information, and there is a very big difference. if it dies because of heat, Asus' 2 year global 1 year accidental damage warranty, that comes standard, for free, will take care of it.

 

Okay, it overheats, happy now?

I said it.

Plus, I'd recommend the MSI anyway, I hate 16:9 screens...

 

Firstly, the MSI GT729 will not be released in North America. Second, both the Geforce GTX 260M and ATi Radeon Mobility HD 4850 are identical in performance as tests have shown, but the GTX 260M inside those ASUS notebooks are downclocked so in this instance the HD 4850 will perform a little better.

 

What games are you playing? Check out any GPU review that covers those games that compares nVidia and ATI cards. Each perform well in specific games.

 

Why are you saying the GT729 won't be released in the USA?

http://www.xoticpc.com/gt729-wsxga-order-p-2633.html?wconfigure=yes

Does that only ship to Europe?

 

I wasn't aware that XoticPC even shipped anywhere other than the US...

Oh well, the GT725 has very similar specs anyway.

 

So if i buy the MSI GTX260M laptop it should perform aswell as the HD 4850? or close to it any other laptops that have the full clocked GTX260m or any cheap ones with better or on pare gpus?

 

GTX 260M and 4850 perform relatively the same.

 

So its worth putting the diffrence of $30 usd and get the NP8662 just in the videos ive seen on that none of it running on very high like its lower sibling...

 

Actually, I would wholeheartedly recommend the NP8662 with the Q9000. Probably one of the best you can get with the GTX 260M.

 

Tbh i wasnt that botherd about the Q9000 im not going to be playing any games that are TO CPU intnsive i was going to swap out that cpu for a Core 2 Extreme so i would prefer the better GPU but is it worth getting a lower end cpu thats Core 2 instead of the Q9XXX so basicly will i get about th same fps on both laptops?

 

There was a topic on here recently that compared the performance of the NP8662 with both the P9700 and the Q9000. The results showed that to get the performance of the Q9000, you would need a very high clocked Core 2 Duo, one preferably 2.8Ghz or above. Also it showed that the Q9000 won out slightly over the P9700 in games like GTA IV, which are core hungry.

If you were to get a Core 2 Duo instead of the Q9000, you would need a 2.66Ghz or greater Core 2 Duo, if you wanted to get similar performance to the quad.

Also, if you can afford the NP8690, then go for that. Core i7 and soon to be Core i5 will soon be industry standard.

 

Im still unsure how much does the GTX260m in the NP8662 get outclassed in the MSI GT729/725 as Crysis on very high on a laptop under $1400 is a win for me so im leaning towards the MSI

 

Well, the NP8690 has a GTX 280M,which is actually better than the 4850.

 

I meant the NP8662 anyways anyone here got both? if not if you have either post youre FPS on some games or youre 3Dmark score

 

Also anyone got any on par laptops or better for the same price or less?

 

Here's a direct comparison (as good as is available) between the GTX 260m (the full-clocked Sager version) and the mobility 4850.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5326088#post5326088

 

Neilnat do you play on Very High or High? also they werent using the best drivers on that comparison shoulda used DOX but hmm im leaning towards the GTX260m cas the sager is cool so ill just O'C and blow that HD outa the water XD

 

The Sager will overclock better than the GT725, there is much more thermal headroom. When I played through the Crysis Demo I used all High settings with 2xAA at native (1680x1050) res.

 

hmmm that sager is looking plenty promosing anyone have any ideas what itl oveclock to? not bothered about The Q9XXX just the GPU its max is 70-81 temp so what will it go to as the underclocked asus model is at 85-95 temp so i must be able to squeeze alot out of it

 

Erm actually the HD4850 will blow the 260 out the water after a flash clock. The memory and core can be pushed insanely.

 

If you read the XoticCPC Forums you'll find that the MSI GT729 has and still is stated as pre-order and was never released for U.S. sale.

 

fo the person that said about the hd in the sager the is about 20-30 degrees headroom so good luck with that

 

The MSI cooling barely moves after the flash, Dont need no headroom Plus ati tend to work nicely with good heat.

Has the sager HDD temp issues been fixed yet?

Is it the 15 inch book were on about?

Plus msi get the in warrenty overclocking.

 

hmm you may be right look at this http://www.excaliberpc.com/592267/msi-gt729-17-gaming-notebook.html fantastic beats my would have been asus G51j

 

I do have to say, if I were a slap-happy overclocker I would run at 550/900 all the time. The temps normally stay under 90 and I'm 100% stable every time I've done it. However, if I were to do it more often, I would get a notebook cooler. I chose the MSI because the less powerful cooling system led to a thinner and (for being 17") lighter laptop.

 

Yeah definately, and i need to change my paste however, the max clocks achived were like 625/1125, and that really pushed the card alot.