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ATI (back when they had this name) never changes. I remember driver issues before I left them for Nvidia, it was a major reason I left. And looks like they still can't figure out how to create good drivers ;-)
P.S: I am patiently awaiting replies by AMD shills "but my card works fine, therefore this article is a lie" or a wall of quotes from Reddit with same replies ;-)
Sure I'm game, I didn't have any issues with my RX580 in my server. Having said that, I do prefer NVIDIA drivers even though they come loaded with tons of bloatware and crap (but you can get around that with some work). Oh and NVIDIA's limiting of video transcoding on "consumer" cards is total crap too, AMD doesn't do that.
In the dozens of cards I've owned over the last two decades, I can count the number of positive experiences I've had with AMD/ATI cards on one hand. With others, the opposite is true. Even when 3dfx was in decline, I never had major issues with their drivers.
There's only really one AMD shill around here, and you're going to get a wall of text as a reply.
The only problem I ever encountered which could be potentially traced to the drivers was with Acer's PH517-61 desktop grade Vega 56 after version 19.5.2, and that was with the static noise appearing on the display every time the laptop would be brought out of sleep (which could only be remedied by restarting the laptop).
Apart from that 1 problem after 19.5.2. version, the drivers never crashed, nor gave me issues with performance in any games, there were no black screens, colorized screens, BSOD's or any other issues people reported on Reddit (though I did have to RMA the Acer unit because of a failed motherboard BIOS flash which the repair team couldn't fix in any appreciable amount of time and they didn't have any replacement units as the model was discontinued).
My RX 580 in a previous GL702ZC laptop (whose motherboard kept getting fried because Asus botched the cooling design) also ran flawlessly (drivers were running great, again, no crashes, no BSOD's, no black screens, or any other problems).
So, apart from having a bad experience with laptop manufacturers, their questionable design implementations and lack of contingencies for failed BIOS flashes, I can't say I had any particular problems with AMD drivers (considering the circumstances) apart from the static noise issue which was more of an annoyance than a real problem (and avoidable by setting Windows to Hybernate instead of going to sleep).
I also helped set-up an all AMD PC for a friend of mine last year using B450, Ryzen 2700 and RX 570 (system is running fine on latest GPU drivers and he has no issues whatsoever).
"Nvidia went through a fair share of teething issues with Turing, but we think it’s fair to say they went on top of any major issues very quickly.
AMD,
on the other hand, has had seven months to sort out Navi, and by the looks of it, they just haven’t been able to deliver. We’ve received countless reports of crashing, flickering issues, and of course, the black screen bug"
Doesn't matter.
I was responding to the OP who made a comment about 'bad drivers' from ATI and AMD in general.
And also, many Navi users (including official reviewers) don't have the said problems (they minimised the chances of those happening by following some common sense when installing the new hw - which most people who report these problems haven't done - and for those who did, they actually managed to solve their issues).
I'm not saying a certain % of people who have AMD cards won't have problems, but the issue is ridiculously blown out of proportion where some blindly think NV don't have any problems (which is definitely not the case).
So, why aren't NV driver woes being blown out of proportion like AMD's?
What, are everyone who says their Navi cards function fine and don't have problems (including reviewers) going to be called 'liars' now?
Or are people going to stop with pointless remarks and actually try to TROUBLESHOOT the problems?
I don't know your needs for video transcoding but I have used Nvidia cards for streaming using OBS on Twitch and I also used them for video transcoding for camera surveillance software NVR. At least Nvidia provides an option to use NVENC for those cases. AMD does not provide any.
I am sorry but I am afraid your own personal experience is absolutely irrelevant. The article itself points out that the authors did not experience major issues with their Radeon cards but they themselves point out several examples where a lot of users did have issues with the drivers of AMD cards, much more than Nvidia drivers. AMD themselves also confirmed that issues do exist. The article comments section also has many examples of people having issues with AMD drivers. BoB of All Trades has made a video pointing out the issues with Radeon drivers on laptops and pointing out the fact that issues with Nvidia drivers are not as frequent.
NVENC is an NVIDIA hardware encoder, of course AMD doesn't have them. NVIDIA artificially limits the number of encoding streams on anything that isn't a Quadro to two streams. This means if I have 3 users watching plex movies my 2070 isn't allowed to transcode the third stream. All of that really means my RX580 was faster as my RTX2070 because it could also easily do more than two streams (with AMD's hardware encoders). No the RX580 isn't faster, but the RTX2070 is being limited by NVIDIA's drivers. There are ways around this limit, which involve modifying drivers, I do it (along with the bloat ware), but NVIDIA's drivers are far from perfects.
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Also saying user's experiences are "absolutely irrelevant" is a total sham. Your article says AMD owners are selling their AMD GPUs in droves. That obviously doesn't apply to users who are happy. Individual experiences with companies are always valuable to that individual. This is why I'm hesitant to purchase an MSI laptop, because as a tech I had such terrible experience with their RMA process, even thought here are many users that obviously love their MSI laptop. You can't say user experiences aren't important when you're trying to convince us that AMD gamers are dumping their cards because they are unhappy (obviously not the case so far in this thread).
Yes it's intended, as is the bloatware crap, that doesn't mean it's good. Dell laptops are intended to run at 100C and yet you seem to like to point this out as a manufacturing defect...
Not that I'm aware of. You can pretty much pop any AMD GPU into the new Mac Pro or a Thunderbolt 3 enclosure and it will work. I'm guessing Apple has some oversight into this since the drivers are tightly integrated with the OS.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
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