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    Gaming PC has the ability to run 24/7 without needing to shutdown!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Ahmed_p800, Mar 16, 2008.

  1. Ahmed_p800

    Ahmed_p800 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, i wanted to show you this beast:

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    The news says:

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    Armari's eXtreme Concept Prototype (XCP) super computer is made of some 100 uniquely designed parts, is either cooled by liquid nitrogen, liquid flurocarbon immersion or thermoelectric cooling and phase change, depending on the model's configuration and has the ability to run 24/7 without needing to shutdown. The XCP will happily function through a temperature range of -110°C to 90°C and being built on Intel's Skulltrail platform, the XCP happily packs quite some power under its Lost in Space-esque hood.

    Currently, the XCP is at concept stage, but the final production model is expected to house two quad-core CPUs (3.2GHz) on a motherboard that supports four graphics cards. Nice.

    The expected price tag of $20,000!!
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    What do you think?!!


    News source:gizmodo
     
  2. gengerald

    gengerald Technofile Extraordinaire

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    WOW. I think I would still like to shut it down just because its ingrained into my person, but that is crazy. I guess it would be perfect for if you are running a small business for 24/7 rendering or maybe research stuff, or maybe live in some hot hot hot environment. Pretty cool dude.
     
  3. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    I want this instead:

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    There is no commercial software out there that is even designed to utilize such hardware. In my opinion, the product is idiotic and will never fly.
     
  5. SmoothTofu

    SmoothTofu Inspiron 1420 Owner

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    Damn, 24/7 on that? I sure don't want to be the guy who pays the energy bill..
     
  6. Charr

    Charr Notebook Deity

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    Cool machine, but it would cost about $7500 for a better DIY version.
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Sounds like another "pay us twice, we`ll do it worse" kind of think.
    What does this have to do with laptops though ?
     
  8. ClockedRodent

    ClockedRodent Notebook Consultant

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    the ability to leave a computer turned on for 24 hours is not limited to this pc...

    (sarcasm)

    just doesn't seem like much of a selling point, since most pc's can stay on for 24 hours quite easily, they may just not last as long as they could.
     
  9. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    Who would play 24/7? waste of cash...get a car isntead :D
     
  10. fifafreak18

    fifafreak18 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah thats dumb....Beastly machine machine but that head line sounds like something from when electronics were first introduced. "LEAVE IT ON FOR A WHOLE DAY!!!" I mean really...
     
  11. j0lt

    j0lt Notebook Enthusiast

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    Any computer can be left running 24/7.

    With Linux :D
     
  12. MrWhereItsAt

    MrWhereItsAt Notebook Evangelist

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    Are we NOT supposed to leave them on? Mine is on for up to a week between shutdowns sometimes.
     
  13. Jedi007

    Jedi007 Notebook Evangelist

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    same, i usually keep mine on for weeks at a time... no problems have arisen ! rebooting every now and then for updates & stuff, but I only shut it down when ill be gone for like on vacation or something..
     
  14. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Yeah lets just game 24/7 till we die from a DVT stroke or heart failure.. maybe we can sue the company in the next life.

    Totally pointless $20,000 machine. A $2000 desktop could do the same
     
  15. gengerald

    gengerald Technofile Extraordinaire

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    At work we are supposed to keep our dells on all the time. There is no auto-shutdown other than for updates which occur every couple weeks. I had a tech get mad because I turned my workstation off for lunch :p
     
  16. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Hey, I think I heard of one of those pcs that never goes offline.... what was it called...


    ...oh yeah, a SERVER.


    Duh! What a load of tot.
     
  17. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    ^^ :D :D :D :D :D

    i rarely turn mine off (maybe once every couple of weeks), and my server has been running for the last 6 months. and its a p3 thats 7 years old...................................

    ahhh well. i wonder if any idiots will buy one.
     
  18. PocketAces21

    PocketAces21 Notebook Evangelist

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    My laptop is pretty much on 24/7 too. What's the big deal?
     
  19. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    You'd think with such rigid temperature controls you'd be able to run this thing in space...then your remember how gamma rays don't care about that thin layer of plastic and fry your skulltrail into oblivion.

    I just don't see the point, unless you can overclock to some absurd value, like 5GHz.
     
  20. Geforce2go

    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    Looks like a food dispenser, lol.
     
  21. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Obviously it won't be running a consumer version of Windows to validate this claim, and a server os would be a bit extreme........
     
  22. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    I bet with all that advanced stuff in there it wont be as reliable as a ordinary desktop. Meaning not always gaming 24/7.
     
  23. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    But does it play Crysis?
     
  24. Ahmed_p800

    Ahmed_p800 Notebook Evangelist

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    It can accept up to 4GFX card....if it cant play it at highest it would be a shame!!
     
  25. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    It would.... but it's still Crysis we're talking about.. ;)
     
  26. Ahmed_p800

    Ahmed_p800 Notebook Evangelist

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    Everything has a limit my friend.....even crysis!!!
     
  27. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah... I know... would just love to see the day when mainstream computers can pwn Crysis :D
     
  28. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    Bet it could be a serious folder (F@H)
     
  29. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    crysis cant be "man handled" until two three years. remember a 8800 gtx can play the shaders on high with 1024*768 at 25 fps. sooooooo
     
  30. Mark

    Mark Desktop Debugger

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    I have a gaming PC, mine can run 24/7 if I want it to......... It doesn't look as cool though. :(
     
  31. theholyangel

    theholyangel Notebook Consultant

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    I hardly shutdown my laptop too...usually i just hibernate it coz i have media player and IE open with multiple tabs and its a lot faster to resume.

    does it matter though?? should i be shutting down my laptop once a week or something??? or hibernation does it all??? does it effect the performance in the long run???
    Thanks
     
  32. IIIM3

    IIIM3 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Both my PCs are constantly running. They turn off very few times. And both my PCs, plus my car, plus my T.V. dont cost more than 20,000 dollars and im quite happy.
     
  33. AspireBMX029

    AspireBMX029 Notebook Consultant

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    this comp is a waste.. i leave my home computer thats 4 years old on all day and its still doing fine.
     
  34. umar

    umar Notebook Evangelist

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    wait this has got me worried....does not turning off your PC affect its performance? cuz my laptop is on 24 hours...not even on hibernate just plain on...shuld i shut it down? but the temperatures remain quite nice...like 45 C for the GPU and something similar for the CPU....
     
  35. Harleyquin07

    Harleyquin07 エミヤ

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    You must be really rich to able to afford to leave a PC running all day even if it's not doing something useful, should a power surge strike while your PC is still on and connected to the mains you'd better have a surge protector or say goodbye to your HDX.
     
  36. lemonbone

    lemonbone Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just want to say leaving the pc on 24/7 is very costly.
     
  37. blackbird

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    What is that...its like a massive bus/ship combo
     
  38. lokster

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    i leave my 5 year old dell 8200 on 24/7 lol i dont remember resetting it after a while. its always downloading something :p
     
  39. umar

    umar Notebook Evangelist

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    lol not rich at all man...but currently i m residing here in the UAE and electricity here is dirt cheap...like the maximum your bill comes is like 50-100 US dollars even if u have like 4 Air conditioners on 24 hours plus lights and a computers..but dunno abt the surge, u r right i never thought abt it mainly cuz i have never experienced it so i think i will stop this practice now :D
     
  40. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am fine with Dual core @ 2.8 Ghz..

    i can get an Alienware casing

    & i can get a 680i SLI ready motherboard.

    And i can make myself a water cooling system..

    Water cooling FTW... easy, cheap & safer.


    oh n deep within i kno i desire that BEAST!!
     
  41. Budding

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    That thing is nothing compared to the servers/super computers running all day in businesses and academic institutions etc.
     
  42. umar

    umar Notebook Evangelist

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    hey i read somewhere that with desktops its actually better to leave them running all the time than continoulsly turning them off and on in the long run like as it longers their life (barring power surges of course)...cuz thats leads to thermal expansion when u turn the computer on..ie the processor starts misfitting in its motherboard socket...not sure though cuz i read it like 2 years ago on the internet..am searching on google for the link will post it if i get it....
     
  43. eleron911

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    I remember than my older desktop with a riva tnt 2m64 pro and Amd Duron 800Mhz would run 24/7 as it was a download machine and server for a network I had in the neighbourhood, and I could still game on it without breaking down the network.
    And it did NOT COST 20k :D
     
  44. umar

    umar Notebook Evangelist

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    http://science-community.sciam.com/...ct-Fiction-Leaving-Computers-Helps/300005680&

    The main consideration, as I see it, is heat. Computer chips including the cpu expand and contract with temperature changes. Thus if a computer is turned on and off frequently the chips which are pretty tiny are subjected to significant mechanical stress due to the expansion and contraction of dissimilar materials. The same applies to as simple a thing as a light bulb. The more you swich it on or off the more you stress it and the shorter its life. So the trade off may well be electric bill vs new computer bill. The cost of the electricity is far greater than the cost of the lightbulb.


    At the moment i culd only find this am still searching though
     
  45. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    I've always wondered don't laptop use less power that a equivalently equipped desktop? I remember my roomate watching tv added more to the bill than me keeping my laptop folding non-stop...
     
  46. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Well, of course,
    Laptops use less power so that they generate less heat.
    The fastest desktops need 1200W PSU, while the fastest laptops need about 250W max :D
     
  47. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    20KKKKKKKKKKKKKK

    This is not a product... its just a Concept.

    But i love it because i can't get It!
     
  48. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Generalising, I love Angelina Jolie because I can`t have her?
    This concept is BS , it`s worthless and pointless. If you game 24/7 you die. Period.