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    Gaming is gonna get interesting. :D

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Pluberus, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. Pluberus

    Pluberus Notebook Evangelist

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    http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/03/m...cross-windows-phone-7-xbox-360-and-windows-7/

    Whoa. PC gaming isn't gonna die. o_O not when that can happen.

    What do you think?

     
  2. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yay for Games for Windows Live?

    I think the issue is that for many PC Gaming is dying. It's not the availability of games the issue.

    Before, why did people play on PC rather than Xbox or PS? Because when you played on PC, the games for PC were drastically better, higher quality visuals, sound, quality for everything. Now we are seeing games being ported from Console to PC. We've seen video clips showing Bad Company 2 looking better on PS3 since they optimize the engine/game for console first. They are not making the games look as good as they should for PC anymore.

    I imagine game developers sitting in their chairs laughing at PC Gamers... I imagine they sit around with beers and pizza laughing at the PC Gamer who ran out and spent $800 on the future Nvidia FERMI GTX480 while the game doesn't look any better than on the 360 because the engine they used is optimized for console and does not use tessellation.

    That's the issue.
     
  3. Pluberus

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    You forgot the dang pirates. :(

    Ugh. I don't want it to die! :( :mad:
     
  4. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    they also make more money on console games since it is easier to develop and optimize because of the closed system.
    pc gaming also carries with it the stigma of piracy.

    but in a way i dont mind this pc gaming graphical stagnation. it will make my mobile gpu last longer :)
     
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    Speaking of which, I'm gonna go make a separate thread on PC gaming dying. :D
     
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    There's a push for this in all sectors, gaming and otherwise. I don't expect much in the long run though, because devs still have to put out a client on every device they want to be ubiquitous on, and that means $$$$$. As to PC gaming dying, I doubt it. It may become a niche, but there are too many freedoms and unique control options on the PC for it to die. I remember seeing I think it was Jay Leno say that the car saved the horse, because the horse was being abused and polluting cities to no end, and when the car came along, horses could be appreciated for thier beauty and grace and whatnot again rather than just being transportation. I don't think the PC will ever be the primary large market for games again, but it will always be the hotbed for innovation. After all, if you want to release something on PC, all you have to do is download an open source compiler (or even less than that if you are going to do a web game) for free, write some code, slap some art together, and post it on the web. Consoles will always have higher barrier to entry, and thus will never foster as much innovation as the PC.

    And yeah, I don't mind graphical stagnation either. Having a gaming PC that is viable for 5-10 years wouldn't be a bad thing, and besides, it might mean devs actually start focusing on mechanics and gameplay to differentiate themselves from the competition, which can't be a bad thing.
     
  7. Terminal42

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    Why do these companies insist on making technologies like "GAMING WHEREVER THE HELL YOU ARE "LOL TV EVERYWHERE"
     
  8. HTWingNut

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    Yeah, I'm a bit skeptical. This looks like another server side gaming experience streaming video to your device of choice. Blech.
     
  9. sirmetman

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    Not what it looks like to me. What it looks like to me is a development nightmare. It sounds like a client that is essentially identical (from user perspective) running on every device pulling user persistance/save data from a server. I really don't see too many games taking advantage of this. Outside of MMOs, I don't think there are many gamers who want constant contact with thier games.
     
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    Meh, this is, like, slightly more interesting than games that store their saves in the steam cloud.
     
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    Yeah, it is basically that, except being able to load saves across clients on multiple platforms. It's very dependent on developers buying in. I see stuff like this having much more success doing things like turning your house lights on and off or programming your DVR than gaming. I just really don't think that apps as intensive as games are going to frequently be programmed across platforms. I know MS is trying to go with this whole 3-screens concept, envisioning your mobile device, computer/web, and TV as basically portals to a seamless experience, but they'd have to make an impressively accomidating and flexible API to make it worth while for serious software to be be developed across all platforms in order to take advantage of something like this.
     
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    If you really want to pay 3 times for the same game....
     
  13. GraysonM

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    Yea. Im not totally stoked. This is just what we need. More games ruined by bad ports.