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    Gaming laptops are a complete joke - I think NBR needs to edumacate this person

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Gophn, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. PC_pulsar

    PC_pulsar Notebook Evangelist

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    when i bought this notebook the fastest GPU of desktop was an 7900gtx. The 7950GTX wasnt out yet if i'm right. The core2duo's for the pc werent out yet neither. So this notebook was very fast for his time. Now after 1,5 year(s) i can still play games very nice with my 7900gtx.

    I have no complains about the portability, i can use this notebook in bus and train very well. I'm not having any troubles with carying the notebook, i think some people are just too weak these days. 4Kg is nothing.

    The batterylife for my notebook is 2hours max, ingame it is 1 to 1,5 hours max. It's enough for me, but i understand it wont be enough for many other people.
     
  2. lokster

    lokster Notebook Deity

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    i agree and disagree with this guy. but hes wrong to assume that everyone needs to stay at home to enjoy the game. truth is everyone moves around alot

    and WLAN parties are much more fun and convienient with LAPTOPS not bigass desktop PCS with bigass screens.

    + laptops are much more mobile friendly, the keyboards arent that bad, and everyone uses an external mouse for gaming for gods sakes. xD

    pretty onesided. maybe he didnt get the laptop he wanted for his birthday? thats why the long rant..
     
  3. brutal

    brutal Notebook Consultant

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    Hell I am a consultant and always on the road. How nice would it have been to be at home all the time with a desktop having two 8800 GTX in SLi.

    Reality dictates that I use a powerful enough notebook that can run all my development tools, so what wrong with having a rig that can play games too when I am bored?

    I'm pretty happy with my new Clevo D901c with a single 7950 GTX, for hellgate london (which is all I play right now) it's pretty impressive. I cant image whats not to like about two of the new 8800M GTXs in SLi (nce they come out).

    ... as for cost, hell I work for myself, its an assist that I can depreciate through my company. Is it not just great that your gaming rig can also be tax deduction ...
     
  4. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I own a gaming desktop rig with a 8800GTX, Core2Duo everything overclocked of course as usual with desktop rigs. But I do also own a XPS M170 with the 7800GTX which still plays games fine and great even after 2 years of age and I own a 12" Amilo Siemens Si1520 for portability.

    If I go somewhere else I bring my XPS with me, that´s portability. Many of my friends said that I was stupid who bought a gaming laptop 2 years ago but now when I show them what it is capable of they are like oooooh! can the laptop play games like that in that resolution?

    Now of course when I´m at home I use my desktop rig for gaming. I think most people who bougth a expensive gaming laptop do also own a desktop rig like me myself do. There might be a small fraction that only goes for a 17" gaming laptop with SLI, but I think most people that really wants to play newer games at high resolutions and high AA and AF and high framerates own a desktop rig too.

    But calling people stupid for just buying a gaming laptop is just that, plain stupid to say in the first place.
     
  5. RobHague

    RobHague Notebook Consultant

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    So... buying an M1730 for the LED lights is not a good enough reason? ;) :D
     
  6. Bo@LynboTech

    Bo@LynboTech Company Representative

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    The LED's look a little Chavvy, I suppose you would have neons under your car? :)

    overseas readers please research CHAV involving keywords like Saxo into the equation :)

    gaming laptops dont have to be expensive, just look at the tempting zepto's :) and pcnextday (in the uk) those 8600gs's run hl2 at full everything on a 15.4" :)
     
  7. roor

    roor Notebook Deity

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    maybe this guy is jealous and doesnt have the money to buy a nice gaming laptop
     
  8. sgtmatt1

    sgtmatt1 Notebook Evangelist

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    man, Of course a normal desktop pc has much better performance and so on, the name laptop already tells it, it's a LAPTOP :p
    You can't compare those 2 with each other....

    But laptops can be good to play games on.


    @ roor: lol, yea maybe you are right :)
     
  9. tootall4wsu

    tootall4wsu Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a desktop that I bought and upgraded to play games on, but as time goes on I have less and less time to spend at home playing on it. I am typing on a two year old laptop that really should be replaced by something I can use for school work and play. I agree that a 17" monster weighing 10+ lbs. is not very portable, but it is definitely more portable than a desktop. Personally I will be going for a happy medium soon (i.e. 14" or 15" w/8600M/HD2600) :)
     
  10. xenupy

    xenupy Notebook Consultant

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    FU*K HIM,


    (clevo owner)
     
  11. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    LOL. Thats as blunt of a response as possible... but effective. ;)
     
  12. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    LoL

    I'm going to have to agree with you xenupy.
     
  13. omni

    omni Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Quite frankly...I do loosely agree with this person, but this is what I believe:

    Gaming notebooks:
    1) They're sort of limiting, unless you plan on paying more for a flat screen (LCD, Plasma, or CRT) and a keyboard.

    2) I see hundreds of kids in my college walking around with these tanks to each class....I think it kind of ruins the point for it being called a "laptop"...there's nothing portable about a 17"+ monster that needs a power cord with it every where it goes.

    If I were to buy a gaming notebook (even though I don't game too much), I probably wouldn't take it out of my house...just have it in my house to have the comfort of gaming from room to room. I'd buy an ultra-portable or a thin and light notebook as well, to deal with my traveling needs. :p
     
  14. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    ok firstly, gaming notebooks aren't meant to be played without the adapter unless you want like an hour or so of gaming or unless you are doing nongaming work. The good thing about gaming notebooks is that you can just take em with you without having to take an entire pc. As for the weight...seriously, any man can carry 10-12lbs with two hands, and it's not like you'll be carrying it forever, maybe 15-20min at max. If you want a gaming laptop and are willing to cope with the supposed "disadvantages" then go ahead and buy one, if you don't want one or are too unmanly to carry around a puffball 10-12lbs then get yourself a desktop which will take more power, will weigh about 50-75lbs, can't take it anywhere without a retarded amount of carrying, and is thicker than 2in. I'm not against desktops (own one myself), but don't bash gaming laptops because of stupid reasons...
     
  15. Macpod

    Macpod Connoisseur

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    I don't think a 7950GTX fort desktop was ever released. and a go7950GTX is faster than my 7950GT desktop at stock speeds.
     
  16. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    only 1/9/10/11 hold semi-tru... everything else.. i was just like.. WTF mate. I mean, a desktop replacement fit my needs like a desktop or lightweight laptop NEVER could.... wat a general piece of crap argument.
     
  17. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Surely laptop screens are inferior to desktop screens. But I like the shinyness of the laptop screens. Not many desktop LCD´s that are glossy. But the response time the laptop lcd´s lag behind a lot. Though I don´t notice much more lag on my laptop lcd than my 4ms desktop tft.
     
  18. Bo@LynboTech

    Bo@LynboTech Company Representative

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    @magnus72
    it depends how much money you spend on your desktop screen
    crt's are almost unheard of these days when buying a pc
    usually people keep the cost down (otherwise it would match the cost of a laptop) and buy a cheaper lcd for their pc giving basically the same image as that of a laptop
     
  19. aerialstlth3

    aerialstlth3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    For me personally gaming notebooks fit my circumstances to a T being that it's mobile and powerful enough and still light enough to be on the bed with me with a torn back muscle. Still I can't see paying 4k for the dual 8800 gtx sli notebook, but if it ever hits 3k it'll be cherry.
     
  20. aebrowne84

    aebrowne84 Notebook Consultant

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    At first read (of the first 3 paragraphs then lost interest) I thought "Damn right! What a waste!".

    Then I thought...It's a toy. People pay all sorts of prices for toys. Frickin' iPhone looks like the most worthless piece of plastic I've ever laid eyes upon. Then again, it doesn't appeal to me as a toy.

    $1000+ RC Airplanes, $400+ Phone, $2000+ Laptop, not things I would purchase, but if you want em as toys, they're just as justifiable as any other frivolous purchase.
     
  21. aebrowne84

    aebrowne84 Notebook Consultant

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    I don't know if people you know buy their LCDs out of the trunk of some guy's car in an alley, but that is just a false statement through and through.
     
  22. times

    times Notebook Evangelist

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    wow,i couldnt be be bothered to read all that.i think "gaming laptops" arnt for the hardcore,but for people who want a gaming system on the go. anyone knows if you want a game to have all its eye candy turned on then you gotta have a desktop pc.
     
  23. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm Notebook Deity

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    This thread is a complete joke


    i remember seeing previous thread exactly like this one


    ah well.

    generally, the conclusion reached is:

    Gaming notebooks are junk compared to equivalent or much lower priced desktops but they are (somewhat) portable.


    that basically it

    NO ONE can deny the fact that desktops will always take the performance crown and get all the new goodies first.

    And that gaming laptops are more portable (relatively) to desktops.
     
  24. xenupy

    xenupy Notebook Consultant

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    I work with mine, professional (im a .NET coder) academic (finish Ph.D in engenering of networks and computers) and my clevo its the perfect tool for all this... I Gain good money with this "toy", so it is realy a toy?

    and no. i work with a 15,4" laptop in the past and its painfull so little space for so many windows (talking sqlserver + delphi(2 windows with a lot of forms) + photoshop + web + etc...)
     
  25. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

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    Ludicrous...

    Let´s all buy non gamer laptops... gamer laptops sucks...

    The guy that wrote that article is a complete joke. Grow up.
     
  26. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well don´t we all like toys, nah seriously I do hope one day that laptops will be even with desktops regarding performance. I would really like to have a laptop that could last as long as a desktop system.

    I hope with the new 55 and 60nm processes that we will see notebooks come even closer to desktop performance, I´m talking GPU´s here. I mean we have come a long way already with SLI in notebooks. I don´t know if this guy knows that there are SLI laptops out there. Calling them inferior is beyond me. Surely they are expensive.

    I think with a SLI laptop you don´t have to buy a new laptop for a few years, sure you won´t be able to play games on max, but hell two GPU´s in one notebook that´s something.

    Just look back a few years, the notebooks were no gaming machines back then. But now in latter years they are just evolving into more mean gaming machines. I´m really looking forward to see the notebook market take over someday. Until then I have to have both a notebook and a desktop to suit my gaming needs :) But I love my XPS more than I love my 8800GTX deskop system :) Even if I can´t play all newer games at smooth frame rates.
     
  27. DuX

    DuX Notebook Consultant

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    I have had a DTR laptop (Dell 9400) for the last 18 months after selling my desktop to get one even though the laptop lives at home 24/7.
    Reason?
    Space.
    The laptop takes up much less room than my desktop did and i also dont need the desk it was sat on...it lives on the breakfast bar area now! if i want to game i just get my mouse and kb out and plug and play....easy. For this reason alone i wont be going back to a desktop any time soon.
     
  28. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Exactly the same reason I have a laptop...I dont take it out much...but it saves a lot of space & the game which i play the most is Counter-strike series..


    Although for Crysis alone...i am planning to build a new desktop ...new laptop will be too expensive for gaming.
     
  29. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Reason I can´t replace a laptop with my desktop is since I need the performance of the desktops. I want to play all my games at max resolution and max effects. Well if I can´t, I just go out and buy a new GPU instead of buying a complete whole new laptop which will still be inferior.

    So in one way this guy is right, why spend $3000 on a gaming notebook, when you can get twice the performance on a desktop. I agree that desktops take space, but as it is now when laptop do catch up with desktop performance and can be upgraded more easily, hell then I will never buy a desktop anymore.

    But the upgradability on the desktops is superior, the performance is superior. Hell for $3000 imagine what kind of killer deksktop rig you can build and it won´t even be that expensive when it´s put together.

    Now not all gaming laptops cost $3000, but you can bet a SLI 8800m will cost that much. I´m not saying this guy is right, but he do also have some points there I agree with him.

    No offence to anyone I do both own two laptops and a desktop rig, one laptop is a gaming laptop.

    The sad part with everything is that when our notebooks finally get the 8800m, well then we have a new desktop GPU that is twice as fast as the current 8800GTX/Ultra, probably. Which means the 8800GTX is a year old now, now when the notebooks finally get this beast the desktops are still a year ahead in performance. What I would like is that they would be equal, one can only dream :)
     
  30. Bo@LynboTech

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    @aebrowne84

    I dont understand why you think its a false statement that screens with an image quality similar to notebooks are puchased with pc's.

    considering that there are only a few actual manufacturers of the screens in the first place, you have to start looking at high end kit to improve quality, where the electronics included are of a higher standard.

    what I do find much more common is that notebooks are shipped with screens that have higher resolutions than those shipped on average with a pc!
     
  31. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    i agree with the person who said this is a stupid thread....who cares if gaming laptops are a complete joke or not? if people are willing to buy them then let em...
     
  32. RobHague

    RobHague Notebook Consultant

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    Yup.

    Gaming laptops are a complete joke. Good for you. I think that people need to stop trying to decide what other people should want. :confused:
     
  33. MegaBUD

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    Well... i need a laptop for work... im not at home every night... and i like gaming...

    You can have a desktop following you everywhere?
    Ready when u want?
    And you can use in the car?
     
  34. dmvp41

    dmvp41 Notebook Enthusiast

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    There is one simple answer for buying a gaming laptop: Preference. He can shove facts down our throat all he wants, but people buy what they want.
     
  35. Vaath

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    Exactly how I feel summed up in one statement! :cool:
     
  36. jb1007

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    If gaming laptops are a complete joke, then...

    Compact sports cars are a complete joke when compared to Ferrari's.

    Pizza pizza is a complete joke when compared to real pizza in Italy.

    Ikea is a complete joke when compared to high end designer furniture.

    There's 6.5 billion people in the world, there is no such thing as a complete joke.
     
  37. icecubez189

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    i can see the point he's trying (correction, attempting) to make, but honestly his writing style sucks. i could only read to the middle, then i just started skipping through it because it was so dull.

    the downsides he lists are either similar to each other or overexaggerated. I'm a guy who prefers desktops over laptops, but I've been very satisfied with my laptop. the portability is great for bringing to other people's house/dorms or a study hall. to be able to cram so much power in such a small size is already a feat in itself.

    and lauding the power of a SFF is a joke. none of my friends use SFF's, and they would always consider a laptop over a SFF if they needed something portable. "Get one with a decent handle or carry straps and you don't give away much in portability, and only a little in weight". SFF's weigh like 4 times as much as my notebook, not to mention, who's going to carry my monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers?
     
  38. lunateck

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    Yes, there is.. The writer is the complete joke of the year.. what a great accomplishment!
     
  39. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Lunateck took the words right out of my keyboard :)
     
  40. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    why is this thread even back????? im going to go kill a squirrel now to take out my anger...
     
  41. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Oh jeez how you got that wrong!! I take it you've never been to Italy? :D
     
  42. metaldeath

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    LOL i couldn't agree anymore! But i must admit that some are very good and some are bad...do you want a real pizza?then go to naples and find the most hidden pizzeria...then eating a pizza will not be the same (p.s.i have a girlfriend here also for this reason!) :)
     
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