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    GeForce 105M VS. 210M

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by locomath, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. locomath

    locomath Newbie

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    I have recently purchased a notebook.
    I was said that the computer will inculde the 105M Graphic card (which includes the Physx feature) But actually it came with the 210M card(which doesnt feture physx).
    my question is if that feature is important to me if I mostly play advanced video games?
    does it improve the gaming graphic dramatically? and besides that what card has the better performance?
    and another question: can I demand the seller to change the 210 installed card with the 105m?
     
  2. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    loco, please review the forum rules since you are a new member.

    Thanks.
     
  3. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    No you don't demand a change or exchange for one simple reason- 210M (16 CUDA cores, 72 gigaflops) is faster than 105M (8 CUDA cores, 38 gigaflops)
    What's more all nVidia GPUs since 8 series have supported PhysX.
    Another thing is that both these cards are too slow to have it enabled and both are not powerful enough to play "advanced video games"
     
  4. jk6959

    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    the G210m is equal to or better than G105m in every way - so no sane reason to ask to switch back.

    My Dell 13z was supposed to have g105m but with correct drivers, every version of GPU Z lists it as G210m. Do I care? Not really.

    I can play all games up to Dragon Age Origins with my CULV notebook - anything less demanding than DAO will run smoothly in native res (yes MW2, Crysis, L4D2, etc) - so it depends what CPU you have with it and what you define as advanced games.
     
  5. locomath

    locomath Newbie

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    you are wrong
    the 210M for notebooks doest come with physx, I have already checked this issue.
    So for concluson do you recommend do stay with the 210M?
    Although as I said I use to play lots of games and tht function is preety important for me..
    so what do you offer?
     
  6. melthd

    melthd Notebook Evangelist

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    as said, so VERY FEW games support PhysX, not to mention that the G 210M is an awfully weak card (relative) so any game with it would probably stutter. if im not mistaken, to fully utilize PhysX, you need another card (not SLi).
     
  7. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    You are right that I'm wrong however you are wrong too, it seems ;)

    Source: http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_faq.html#q3

    It seems neither of these cards support PhysX

    EDIT: If you play a lot it would probably be best if you used the wrong card as a pretext to return the notebook and get sth with at least GT330M or Radeon HD4650.

    Benchmarks for GT210M LINK
     
  8. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    The G210M is more powerful than G105M ...and PhysX is too much for them so doesn't matter if G210M doesn't have it.... but gaming performance wise , G210M is better... if u really want a PhysX card , get a laptop with GT330M or better... but personally , i would get a laptop with a DirectX 11 card , like ATI 5850 , 5650 or 5870... Ex ASUS G73 with ATI 5870...cheapest and best single card gaming notebook.
     
  9. locomath

    locomath Newbie

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    the one who wrote any geforce suports physx if its at leat from the 8 series:
    you are right, but that councerns only for the destop gpu's.

    Here is a proove that the g201M for notebook doesnt include physx:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-G-210M.17638.0.html
    " PhysX is not supported by the G210M because of too less shaders (for rendering and PhysX)."

    For exapmle, when I run Pro Evolution 2010 on my destop the graphics is incredible. When I run it on my notebook with the 201m in it,the graphics isnt the same..it is a little less preety..
    that is why I ask if there is a place to change the 201m to the105m?
     
  10. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Yeah I wrote that all nVidia GPUs newer than 8 series support but I already corrected that a few posts back. All newer than 8 series but with minimum of 32 CUDA cores (regardless if it's desktop or notebook).
    The point (already made) is neither 105M nor 210M support PhysX but from the two 210M is faster.
     
  11. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    And an elaboration on what Downloads said... if either of those cards actually could use PhysX in games, the cards aren't powerful enough to remotely produce playable framerates. Crysis would most likely look like a school presentation powerpoint on the jungle.
     
  12. luffytubby

    luffytubby Notebook Deity

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    But is the 210M really any faster than 105M?

    The performance gains seem so marginal, that it could hardly be called an upgrade, or could DDR2/DDR3 and Vram amount have something to do with the quality of each card as well?