GeForce 9 Mobile?

So, the GeForce 9 series for desktop is going to come out by the end of the year. But I haven't found anything relating to the release of the mobile 9 series.

Anyone know when (or approximately when) the 9 series for laptops will come out?

 

Most likely next years august or so

 

umm since direct 10 came in moblie 6after the release of desktop..
i would be what crimsonman said

 

O okay thanks...so much for my plans of getting a new laptop with one of the 9s around Feb...lol.

 

As others have said, there's probably about a year to go before you see it in a notebook. The GeForce 8 was particularly delayed, I think, mostly due to the serious heat/energy requirements of the 8X00 series.

The 8800 got hot enough to cook off of. =P

 

My 8600M GT occasionally hits 85 degrees while gaming, which IS hot enough to fry an egg on if I'm on top of a mountain.

 

Haha serious heat of the 8800GTX, no that's wrong. My card maxes out at around 72 degrees celsius. Is that hot? Don´t think so. I can imagine people cramming in a 8800GTX into a inferior ventilated chassi that might have problem. But hot, no way.

And with 72 degrees celsius I mean that the fan runs up to 80% of it´s capacity not 100% it cools down too quick to reach 100% of the fans capacity.

 

72C despite the massive heat sink and 80% of a large fan as well...

Nevermind the massively better cooling and "wind tunnel" most people can get moving through their desktop cases.

Remember, this is relative to what they can do in a laptop which means they cannot use fan/heatsinks the size of two full-length(or half-length) PCI-Express slots.

Understand the 8800GTX+ all by itself is 1/2 to 1/3 of the weight of most 15-17" laptops and is longer and thicker than even my x205!

Nevermind the fact that the 8800GTX pulls almost five times the power that the top-of-the-line mobile chipsets do...

Trust me Mag... the 8800GTX is a firestorm compared to current laptop GPUs.

 

You got an ACed case? Because my 8600GT is at 85 in load with case open an 19C ambiant temperature

 

I got a very good case, Aerocools AeroEngine Extreme 3T with a 250mm fan on the side and a 140mm fan in the front, both air intake and a 120mm fan on the backside of the case which takes the air out.

Then I have an ambient temp of 23 degrees celsius in my apartment.

My Dell XPS M170 is more loud than those two fans combined, that´s when the fans on my Dell goes up to high speed which they do pretty fast

How much power my card draws is no problem for me since I have my electric bill baked into my rent, which means practically I have my computer on 24/h without have to worry about any electric bill

Still that large heatsink surely does it´s job on my 8800GTX, it does one hell of a job to cool the card down and the fan on the card isn´t that large either.

 

I don't know how they'll engineer a 8800GTX mobile edition. The thing has a 185W thermal design power, which is ridiculous. My whole HP desktop from 2003 only has a 250W power supply.

 

My prediction is that around the time of the release of the Desktop 9 series, we'll see the release of the die shrunk mobile DX10 cards. Then about six months after that we'll see the mobile 9 series come out.

 

A high end 8 series mobile card simply isn't possible on the current 90 nm process. Its just too much, in terms of heat and power respectives. If nVidia feels they need to even design anything more than the 8700M GT, then they will be looking at 65 nm, but even if they manage that, it will still take a massive effort to create a card based on te desktop G80 core, and get it into the power and heat range, a current high end card has to fit in.

However, it all depends on if nVidia is willing to even put resources into such a project. If they heard news that ATI was designing a new high end card, nVidia would be straight to the drawing board with a bunch of interesting and totally achievable plans. At the moment, the mobile sector is wide open for anybody with a decent high end graphics card, and the consumers are getting wrestless.

 

Just a note, currently nVidia's on an 80nm process I believe.

And I agree that it will be a huge effort to shrink the G80 core down to 65nm, which is why I don't think it will happen. I predict that either they will make extreme optimizations to the G84 core with a 256-bit bus, or they will simply skip straight to the G92m core and release a high end mobile 9 series (since the desktop 9 series is coming up so soon).

However, I simply cannot believe that nVidia has not been working on some high end mobile card all this time, I'm sure they're actively working on a die shrink, I'm just not sure which core they're planning on releasing first.

 

Sorry, I get confused because their desktop seems to be based on the 90 nm. Thanks for the correction.

Its possible that they have been working on something, or a bunch of other small things, that could lead to some very good power optimisations made to one or a few of their cores. nVidia isn't really a company I'd expect to be slouching, and neither is ATI, but you've got to wonder, after all this time, theres still no firm report of anything upcoming.

 

Well, Cnet has claimed to have actually used a laptop with the 8800m in it, not just as an option but actually in the review model, but so far they've only done a first look review.

 

Well think of the 8700 there was no real concrete reports of it either. Come to think of it the main source was the inquirer who said it would be out in x weeks and most people didn't even trust it. Then boom it comes out of nowhere. Yeah but I agree with you guys, my main concern is simply the roadmap for nvidia if they take too long to bust out the 8800 that will only delay the 9 series even further.

 

I think you are actually right. The 8800 is actually produced on the 90nm process since it was released first. All other 8xxx series GPUs are made on a 80nm process. In theory, it should be fairly simple for nVidia to shrink the 8800 from the 90nm process to the 80nm process because the 80nm half node was designed as a quick transition from 90nm for cost saving purposes with minimal redesign. However, beyond reducing die size, it doesn't benefit mobile users since as a cost based half node, the 80nm process does not offer much improved thermal characteristics over 90nm. The 65nm process has very different characteristics from the 90nm and 80nm processes, which is why it's taking nVidia and ATI's HD 2900 so long to transition.