GeForce 9800 GS expectations

Does anyone have an opinion about how well this GPU will run games compared to say the 9800 GTS and the 9700 GTS?
I expect it to be somewhere in between but I would like a more informed opinion about the matter than my own

 

ok here is a link to a guys review of his asus g50vt-a1 notebook with an 9800gs... i think its kinda weak compared to my 9800gts he gets 5800 with his notebook and he has a better cpu mine gets over 8000 and thats with out overclocking it one guy got over 9000 when he overclocked... i have a 7811 gateway...


but heres the link to his review http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=283137

 

The clocks are still higher than a 8800m gts so it will still outperform the 9700gts probably about 20% more. I shouldn't be much worse than the 9800m gts so probably about 10% slower. If you want a idea how it will perform in games just look around for a 8800m gts review.

>.> that notebook isn't even the right model, let alone it says right on it 9700gt....

 

ok yeah your right about your stats but it is the right model look it up http://gentechpc.com/

but do your research and make sure you buy a good laptop that you can upgrade... what ones are you looking at

 

Right design, but the model is still off. The models using the 9800m gs name is G50V t Models using the 9700m gt are Asus G50V. Bestbuy also offers a silver version of the G50V t
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G50VT-A1&Category_Code=AS15

 

I am looking at buying the new Asus G71G-A2, it seems to be a great deal, was just wondering how it will be in games, I cant seem to get a similiar build (blue ray, fast ram, extra) from the sager at a similiar price

 

G71G-A2 is good for the money but not video card upgradeble

 

Look into the upcoming MSI GT627 which also comes with a Geforce 9800M GS 1GB DDR3 and similar specs to the ASUS G50VT series, while including such features as instant CPU overclock button, 3D LCD screen, and simply being made out of a mix of aluminum and plastic:

http://sg.hardwarezone.com/news/view.php?id=12019&cid=9

PS: MSI usually has MXM video cards which tend to be upgradable.

 

now that is interesting, hmmm

 

The 9800m GS is a potent card... it is a 9800m GTS clocked 12% slower for core/shaders and 1MHz slower for he RAM.
(probably to reduce heat)

I haven't run 3dmark06 yet, but from another thread one guy got 7600-7700 at 1280x1024 with a 2.26GHz.

With a little OC'ing (12%) this card should perform similarly to a 9800m GTS at stock. Note, given the power of this GPU in a 15" enclosure, you will want to watch heat like a hawk.

I haven't had the time or frankly a real reason to push mine yet other than for "wow" factor.

 

Deffinitely looks like a nice machine! now, what's it gonna cost...

 

thats with the 9700m gt, here are the facts, 64sp 256bit 512mb Gddr3 makes a good video card. I'd expect to be around 10-15% slower than the 9800m gts as it is really a underclock version

 

The ASUS G50Vt-X1 is $1099 at Best Buy, which is pretty cheap for a 9800GS laptop. Only downside is that it only has a 1366x768 display for the beast GPU to drive

 

FYI, the screen is actually quite nice despite its lower resolution.

If you need higher resolutions, buying an external monitor can solve that issue, but quite frankly the 1366x768 resolution fits the 15" screen quite well.

Yes, I wouldn't mind more, but it doesn't hamper usage one little bit.
Note running smoothly at native is easy with this combo.

 

I dont think "upgradiblity" should be considered with a 15 incher cause of heat issues

 

"Upgrading" a 9800m GS in a 15" seems a little silly as well.

Sure, a few years down the road, maybe... but honestly for the only upgrades there would be you might as well buy a new one.

 

ok the one bestbuy has is a piece of **** this is the one i was talking about
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G50VT-A1&Category_Code=AS15

 

thats like 1.7k, why get that when you can get a sager np8660 for 1.6k. the one BB has is the one most people will like because it cost 1.1k

 

You can't get a NP8660 for 1.6K, not including shipping and all. For the matter, at 1639, it's similar to the base configuration of the NP8660.

The G50VT that was linked has a 2 year warranty, including 1 year accidental, 2 HDDs (something the M860TU will never be able to have), a faster processor (unless you spend more on upgrading the M860TU), more RAM (unless you spend more on upgrading the M860TU).

The M860TU certainly offers better performance, albeit with some restrictions. It's also heavier when compared to the base G50VT. If you get it on Gentech's ebay store, you can get it for $200 less, thanks to cashback, making it even cheaper.

The BB Asus models do not get the extended warranty.

 

Yeah I have a P-7811FX and it has the 9800GTS its pretty beastly...

 

or just go with the ocz 840 and be pretty much fully upgradeable and not have to sell or keep as a paper weight
http://www.xoticpc.com/force-extreme-built-flextronics-arima-w840-ocznbim17a-w840di-order-p-2495.html

 

I'd like to point out that that one is a 17" and also an $1800 laptop in its "regular" single-GPU configuration.

$1100 for the best buy version of a 15" laptop even with "only" a 1-year warranty (you can get extended ones from BB if you prefer) and the hardware in that machine that will perform almost as well as the $1700-2000 single-GPU laptops is still a greal deal.

I am not saying the other laptops listed here are bad ones, but quite frankly you are paying more than 50% more money for nowhere near a 50% performance boost.

You DO get a higher resolution screen and that is a known downside... again having used the BB G50VT I gotta say that it really doesn't detract in real-world usage. (not that a higher resolution screen wouldn't help, but this IS a 15" screen...)

I think we need to be honest about "upgradeable" laptops and the actual utility this brings.

I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that for those that don't have money growing from trees around them, buying an $1100 laptop and another $1100 laptop 2 years later (and selling the old one) is a MUCH better deal and will result in a faster system in the long run than buying a $1800 laptop and spending $400-$1000 in upgrades and many hours in taking the laptop apart... and that's if the "upgrade" goes flawlessly and Murphy doesn't get his way.

 

Tag, that MSI looks nice (style wise) but I wonder, usually when they make them too thin and small they have heat issues.