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    GeForce 9800m GTS vs. Quadro FX 2700m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Matthewrs_Rahl, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. Matthewrs_Rahl

    Matthewrs_Rahl Notebook Consultant

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    Alright. I've searched around on here and read up on everything you guys have been saying about the Nvidia GeForce 9800m GTS and Nvidia Quadro FX 2700m GPU and have found myself curious as to one aspect.

    Why would a company like PowerNoteBooks offer laptops, such as the Sager NP 8660 and label it as a " Gaming Laptop", offering the Nvidia Quadro FX 2700m for $300 more than the other gpu? You all seem to believe the Nvidia GeForce 9800m GTS is superior for gaming...so, why? Why is it better and why would they offer it for such a significantly greater price on a " Gaming Laptop"? I'm stumped.
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    the Quadro is optimised for CAD work etc. as to why it's so much more expensive... no clue. some say that the only difference between Geforce and Quadro cards is the VBIOS, and that they're physically identical.
     
  3. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    CAD does diffrent formuls than gaming and has a diffrent structure. And beacuse they make so many more 9800s than 2700s the prices will vary.
     
  4. ahl395

    ahl395 Ahlball

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    Go for the 9800M GTS. As said, the Quadro is mainly for CAD, and the 9800M GTS rates higher anyway. ;)
     
  5. Jahert

    Jahert Notebook Enthusiast

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    To the OP, what are you needs? These cards are designed for different needs.
     
  6. S_P_Q_R

    S_P_Q_R Notebook Evangelist

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    11) NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS NB9E-GT 9683 3DMark06
    15) NVIDIA Quadro FX 2700M NB9E-GLM 7660 3DMark06

    Being ranked 11th and 15th respectively in the MOBILE GRAPHICS CARDS - BENCHMARK LIST, with a near 20% difference in benchmark result, I to found it difficult to get my head around the price discrepancy.

    Then again if you had a machine with the 15th ranked GPU, you'd probably be able to afford it and have little to complain about.
     
  7. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Workstation GPUs are different from their gaming counterparts. They have far more OpenGL driver support and they excel at precision work whereas gaming GPUs excel at fast rendering. For example, some Workstation GPUs have a constant AA enabled, bringing their gaming performance down significantly.

    Therefore, they are priced higher because of these differences. Is the price worth it? Perhaps not, but hey, last I checked, specific gear for any profession/sport/hobby is always significantly more expensive than the general consumer version s nothing new there ;) Once a pair of shoes gets labelled "for x sport", their price nearly doubles from regular running shoes and not all the time are said shoes actually that different from regular running shoes...

    Now, to answer your question as to WHY the NP8660, which is a gaming machine, has a Quadro option...

    Well, Quadro and other such workstation GPUs are only offered as an option in business notebooks. This option was probably offered for those people who wanted an alternative to business notebooks.
     
  8. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    its not just VBIOS anymore.... has not been since the Geforce 4, 5 and 6 series.

    The interesting thing is that the high-end Quadro cards (with 256-bit memory interface) has a very high price compared to a mid range Quadro (with 128-bit). Having a high-end Quadro is pretty much having a very capable professional 3D workstation in a notebook... which comes with a price premium.

    for your gaming needs, I would not recommend to get the Quadro 2700M (equivalent to Geforce 9700M GTS).... its slower than the 9800M GTS.

    and a Quadro is mainly best for those that need to work with OpenGL pro 3D applications like Solidworks, Maya, etc...
     
  9. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    ive actually wondered the same thing its interesting the 2700m = 9700gts which means it would score id say around the 7500 neighborhood but its very interesting they both have 256 bit interfaces

    But from alot of things ive seen it seems to me that these newer quadros can overclock out the wazoo there were people who got the FX 770 to overclock and score over 8000 thats a REAL lot if you can over clock something like the 2700 i dont see why it would be out of range to hit somethig like close to 11000 or so

    i like the 2700 and the 9800 so are you gonna overclock your notebook? If not, go with the 9800 gts i did and im happy
     
  10. Bungalo Bill

    Bungalo Bill Notebook Deity

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    Half of you didn't even read his post.

    He didn't ask what the quadro does. He asked why it would be in a gaming laptop.
     
  11. Matthewrs_Rahl

    Matthewrs_Rahl Notebook Consultant

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    Ha-ha, you guys did miss half the question, as was pointed out. No worries though, I've been enjoying reading it. Learning new stuff along the way, such as the overclocking potential of the Quadro. I am in fact interested in overclocking, but I wouldn't make my selection based off of that factor. :)
     
  12. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    ok ok thats cool, so what are you more leaning towards?
     
  13. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well there isn't really any reason why it would be or why it wouldn't be(in the case of why there is a Quadro FX2700M).

    I mean, Alienware also offers a Quadro GPU in some of their notebooks and Alienware has been geared for gaming for as long as I remember. I guess it's just for those people who want/need workstation power but don't want a workstation computer(chassis wise that is).