GeForce GT 650M VS Geforce 335M

Ok so I heard the new macbooks will have the GeForce GT 650M, does this mean the new macbooks will have almost the same performance as the M11x's?

 

The 650M is twice as powerful as the 335M.

 

The 650M will destroy the 335M it destroys the 540M GT.

But Macbooks are hugely overpriced and not meant for gaming so you wont get to see the 650M's real ability.

Wait for the M11x R4 with the 640M GT hehe

 

Not really, because you can't really compare performance between Macs & PC's in the same way. Something which will lag on the PC may not even run on the Mac, but something which just meets minimum requirements for the Mac usually won't lag at all even though it'll lag on the PC.

Yes as far as graphics processing goes it will be faster, but i wouldn't bet on the rest of the system matching up. I personally don't even know what i would do with a 650M in a Mac... It can't play that many games, so what good is it? Faster CAD rendering?

 

There's Steam for Mac for Mac users who want to game on Steam.

But yes a GT650M utterly destroys a 335M, it's not even close. GT650M is faster than a 560M in certain benchmarks.

 

Yea there is, and the majority of which are indie games. Small-production indie games & flash games don't count as "gaming" and they sure as hell don't need a 650M. I actually went through the entire list, the "biggest" game on Steam for Mac is Serious Sam 3.

 

Actually there are many people who use bootcamp and install Win 7 on their macbooks. So will the new macbooks be 2x better than the m11x IF they have windows installed?

 

Yes, but there's no Optimus switching technology on Macs running Windows, so the battery life won't as good and it'll stay warm.

 

If you are not interested or need Apple specific software there is no point its too expensive and is not for gaming.

It works both ways also buy a normal machine and run Hackintosh.

 

Yea, those are the people who are forced to use Mac for whatever reason but still want to use Windows so they can actually game on them/use normal windows programs.

Why pay all that extra for a Mac when there are plenty of cheaper windows laptops with better GPU's?

 

The mac forums will tell you that not all is happyhappyfunjoy using windows. From what I gather using no scientific data is if you want to run Windows stick to the PC clone family.

edit: But they will also tell you about how much they like their systems.

 

lets all not forget that the new mac books have a stupidly high resolution screen...so yeah if you wanna run anything at full res...its gonna run like a 335 at 1366x768

 

people don't buy macbooks just for os x. they buy them because it has the apple name on it, and there stylish.

install windows 7 using boot camp and your good to go. very easy to compare performance then.

thats only one model. the lower end is still 1440x900 with the 650m

 

Compare the price of a Mac & a Windows laptop with the same specs. There is no plausible reason why someone would want to pay an extra almost $1,000 (and sometimes more) purely for the Apple brand & OS only to then put on Windows and deal with compatibility issues.

 

The new one has awsome screen and is 3/4 of an inch thick standard with an SSD for $2100. With the GT650m it is essentialy a gaming Ultrabook at a better price than you'd get for a windows ultrabook at those specs. Only camparable thing is the Razer Blade wich is even more expensive.

That said I'm not sure if I buy into the ultrabook thing. They are still overpriced I think, and will either pass as a fad, or become the standard and prices will fall greatly.

 

Whats the resolution on the new one then? beyond HD or retina something?

 

And at $2,100 it's still $1,250 more than i paid for the M11x R3 in my sig (including mods) which i would prefer over that "gaming ultrabook" (with heat from that GPU going where?) anyday.

 

5.1 million pixle 2880-by-1800 resolution Retina

Apple - MacBook Pro with Retina display - Features

Very nice. If I were into photo or video editing, I could dig it. But where deos all the heat go? they must use an under clocked version of the GT 650m

 

Bloody hell that is high so the 650M will just be there to handle the resolution most likely. For apple software it will be smart but if you intend to game you can get the same elsewhere for half the price but wouldn't mind that screen

 

you're ACTUALLY comparing the M11x to the MBP 15?

you would have a hard time finding two more different laptops.


its like saying smart phones are superior to laptops because they have more battery life.

 

HAHA not realy, we just are way off topic now. He was just saying that he thinks he got way more for his money.

 

By going off topic we are just making sure that mods keep their jobs, we are in recession after all

 

harhar! for the ON topic, its pointless to compare. Right here in nbr forums you can go to the apple fan boy sections and read how they recommend NOT buying the apple if planning to run windows solo. Too many issues for the $$.

Since they are pushing for mega picture edits and some vid edits while high res the 650 was a logical choice - bonus if games work for you. Editing an HD vid with all your edit tools avail in realtime is a bit taxing on a system I'm guessing.

This example re windows was easy to find:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/app...erience-mbp-compatibility-retina-display.html

 

Huh? No, that analogy doesn't apply to this at all... Check OP, that's what this thread is about.

"New MBP has 650M, so does it perform better than the M11x?"

He's making the comparison, not me. I'm saying that having a more powerful GPU doesn't make it better for gaming because it's not a gaming machine like the M11x is and it doesn't justify paying double the price just for a superior GPU if that is your sole reason for buying it.

 

So in summary, the 650 is way better than 335 but weather you can use it's full potential or not is a different story.

 

since the only gaming temp that I currently have now is from diablo 3 is around 80c for the gpu and the cpu, and that is for the Retina mbp...

I dont know about the clocks as of now.

The problem behind running windows on mac is... price. You can get a nice windows machine for less than you would pay for a mac, the good value macs are the mba and the imacs, none of the pro series are of good value. You buy them because you find them interesting, there is one feature there that you like and so forth.

The drivers on windows are simply abysmal for the trackpad, and sincerely that is one major feature from apple, the excelent trackpad. To put it short, they work as your windows multi touch touchpad, for apple users this is a major drop.

The current problem featuring bootcamp on the 2012 nvidia powered macs is the lack of the gpu drivers. Nvidia hasnt released the 650m drivers yet and we are hacking those, modded some inf and people have been playing with windows 8 quite joyfully.

Aside the abysmal trackpad on bootcamp I dont see ANY issue in running windows on mac.

Windows 8 due to lack of real drivers from all OEMs is still another thing, I have encountered a delay when pressing the brightness and kb backlight settings, a 1-2s before it makes realizes the changes, aside that the trackpad is still bad.

 

If Windows is your primary OS you'd be a fool to get a Macbook instead of Wintop (a term I've just made up ). You'd be paying triple the price!

Anyway 650M destroys 335M and then some. And some more. And again.

It trounces my old ATI 5650 (which I had overclocked as far as it would go) that I had in my previous laptop. It's the difference between playing games at 768p medium with iffy FPS to 768p maxed out with consistently smooth FPS. 335M is about on par with the 5650.