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    GeForce Go 7950GTX - High End Card, My Arse!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by theyeti, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. theorist

    theorist Notebook Consultant

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    heya. i am using the stock drivers that came with my system for the 7950 gtx... 7.15.11.138

    if i am not really having problems with games, should i upgrade to the forceware drivers anyway?
     
  2. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    no forerunner, beatsiz magical gma950 can run any game on the highest settings and low resolutions and it automatically adds AA without a peformance drop.
     
  3. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    Ive owned this laptop for 6 months and used 3 games on it, if you think im gonna go and buy a new graphics card that might give me a few extra fps that i wont notice you are very much mistaken!
     
  4. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    As others have stated, at least do a separate partition with XP if you don't want to blow away your current Vista install.

    I have tried Vista on my gaming desktop and wife's laptop. Both with miserable gaming results. Installed XP and everything was smooth as butter. Even on my wife's laptop with ATI Xpress 1100 graphics, I could play Far Cry, Tomb Raider Anniversary, and C&C 3, all of which were unplayable in Vista.

    Whether this is a driver, hardware, or Vista issue I don't know and don't care. XP works and has worked, quite flawlessly for years. This is why I avoid Vista until it can prove itself better than XP.
     
  5. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Right-click the desktop and click on Nvidia Control Panel. Then click on System Information on the lower left corner. There you sould see the Forceware version.
     
  6. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    forceware version 98.09..

    small update, I installed the latest patch from EA, and updated my NVIDIA driver from the Dell website (even that was old, the date said February this year).

    I played it and it ran a touch smoother, but still not £1.6k smooth.
     
  7. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    p.s here are screenshots of the current settings.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  8. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    lol, well there's your problem.

    Talk about old.

    Go to www.laptopvideo2go.com and download the latest drivers. People were saying 163.75 or 163.76. I guess it depends.

    Make sure you download the modified INF in order for it to recognize your GPU.

    But most importantly, unistall your current video card drivers first! Then restart and install the one's I listed above.

    You can also try www.tweakforce.com and try their "modified" mobile drivers.
     
  9. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    Just realised that it says your DirectX version is 10.0? :eek:
     
  10. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    is 10 bad?
     
  11. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    Ive taken off the driver using uninstall programs from the control panel. I have downloaded 163.75 and thats ready to be installed in the morning (its nearly 3am here!). The only thing im unusre of in when you say download the modified INF??? could you post a link to that for me please and how to do it.

    thanks again!
     
  12. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

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  13. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15369
    Click on "modded inf" and save it (overwrite the old one) in your 163.75 drivers folder before you install it. ;)
     
  14. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    ok done that and she's installing now... fingers crossed.
     
  15. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    Right,

    I installed the driver and rebooted. Everything was fine when i started the game apart from me not having 16:9, it had changed the aspect ratio to 4:3. I carried on regardless, and found the gameplay a hell of a lot smoother, real quick and it was still on minimum settings. 2 minutes in to playing the system shuts down, and when it eventually rebooted it told me that it got too hot and had to shut the system down.

    I have now restarted windows, and im stuck in 4:3 (its a 17" widescreen Dell M1710 Tru-life thingy) and crappy desktop graphics...

    :(
     
  16. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    pic of aspect

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Shoedawg78

    Shoedawg78 Notebook Guru

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    Another note I would highly recommend a external USB HDD to back up your data. One it'll save ya grief if ya ever happen to have a physical HD crash and two, with HDs being so cheap these days there easily affordable. Newegg has a 300gb Maxtor for like $80USD. I have two Seagate External drives, one for my music, the other for ISO's, pics, and whatever I can find to throw on there
     
  18. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    I have done a system restore, so now im effectively back to square 1. Can someone tell me the best way to cleanly uninstall my current NVIDIA drivers, ready for me to install the new forceware that im downloading?

    thanks
     
  19. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    Im sure it wont run them in DX10 ;) Im sure it the 8800m will dropkick your laptop into the bin :)

    I dont really know but I just hope Nvidia hurries up or ati (never ever cough possible) with a gpu that will *HOPEFULLY* Be twice as powerfull as 7950gtx and 3 times as 8700.... because then a 8800m sli would be the ideal portable gaming solution.... Im just looking for Crysis on High/Very high settings at 1280*800 or 1440*900
     
  20. Beatsiz

    Beatsiz Life Enthusiast

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    MY GMA950 says it too!!! NOT! Its just that only vista can run DX10 so its installed.... but you need a compatible DX10 card =) :p
     
  21. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    I have a big pen*s, so i'll let your computer dropkick mine into the bin - all i wanna do is play the f*cking game.
     
  22. theyeti

    theyeti Notebook Enthusiast

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    An Update...

    I've not had time to attempt installing dual Operating Systems, however, I did do the following and noted some improvements:

    1. Uninstalled current driver and rebooted
    2. Ran a registry cleaner
    3. Installed the latest tweakforce driver from notebookforums

    Re-running some of the games:

    Quake 4
    Is now playable at 1920x1200 on Ultra setting with vsync but no AA. Framerates were mostly between 50-60fps with the odd blip down to 40fps.


    Far Cry
    Is now playable at 1920x1200 on Highest settings but with no AA. Framerates between 60-90fps.


    Unreal Tournament 3 Demo
    Admittedly, being a UT fan, this is the game that I'm most concerned about.

    At 1920x1200 with all options as high as they'll go, I got between 15-20fps.
    At 1680x1050 with the same settings, results were more or less the same.
    At 1440x900, same settings, I got between 20-45 fps. Not much of an improvement then.

    However, switiching off Bloom by tweaking the INI file allowed for "some" fps joy. Framerates shot up to mostly 30-60fps at 1440x900. Though of course the game didn't look as nice and it would still hit 20fps on too many occassions, hmmm!

    MOH: Airborne
    Still runs like cack. On medium or high, with none, simple or full post processing, at 1280x800 framerates continue to be bloody erratic, dipping to 15fps before suddenly rising to 60fps a second later, and then plummeting again!


    I'm now waiting for my Half Life 2 Orange Box to be delivered and depending on how it performs, I'll decide on my next step...


    Uninstall via Control Panel -> Programs and Features
    Reboot
    Run CCleaner to clean registry etc
    Install new driver
    Reboot.

    At least that's what I just did...

    Hope that helps mate
     
  23. theyeti

    theyeti Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey,

    can't see your pic, but those figures sound super! I'll install the same driver tonight and see how it does. If you could send my your ini file or let me know of the changes that you made to it, that would be great! I'll PM you my email.

    Many thanks!
     
  24. nealyblue

    nealyblue Notebook Enthusiast

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    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    Its funny you should say that, I have Core Meters installed in my sidebar, and whenever MOH:A starts to load up they both max out to 100%...
     
  26. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    How come last night when i installed new drivers it worked fine, but overheated like a mofo after only 5 minutes???
     
  27. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    Right, Ive spoken to EA...

    basically, MOH:A does not like dual core processors. The guy on the phone basically told me to take the game back as it wont work on my PC, even when running one core (min req is 2.8 i have 2x 2.16)

    absolute load of ballsacks. back to virgin tomorrow to take it back.
     
  28. jb1007

    jb1007 Full Customization

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    That is definitely a load of ballsacks lol.

    EA looks to be dropping the ball this year.
     
  29. Cinner

    Cinner Notebook Evangelist

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    How can it not? It's based on the Unreal engine (right?) which should love dual core CPU's :confused:
     
  30. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    im getting mixed reports from a whole host of online communities, and im not computer literate enough to decipher what is the best course of action. Im not competent enough to go messing about with setting on my pc and downloading different stuff from all over the world just to try and get one game to work.

    EA have gone downhill since command & conquer red alert days i tell you.
     
  31. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    @2low4u,

    Can you change your desktop resolution and/or refresh rate?

    Mike.
     
  32. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    Yeeah i can change my desktop resolution, not at the moment though as im using the built in graphics whilst i find a stable enough driver for my graphics card! the text is massive atm!
     
  33. theyeti

    theyeti Notebook Enthusiast

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    The latest Nvidia for Dell driver is 156.55, available at laptopvideo2go with a modded INF (though you will have to tweak it yourself to allow more resolutions - a simple task, but if you're not up for it, let me know and I'll do it for you). It's very stable and corrected at least one major problem that many M1710 owners, including myself, had when running our notebooks on battery. I discussed it in a thread on their forum.
     
  34. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    yes please if you could sendspace or any equivalent a folder with the driver and the modded INF/tweak that would be most appreciated. Will it enable me to play MOH:A though?
     
  35. jessi3k3

    jessi3k3 Notebook Evangelist

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    Those are some nasty textures. Are you playing it on low settings? I dont recall my UT3 game having such blurry textures on high.
     
  36. Juz_Follow_ATI

    Juz_Follow_ATI ATI all the way

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    You should take a look at how the 7950GT on the desktop performs. It is generally comparable to the 7950GTX go.
     
  37. D2F[Rob]

    D2F[Rob] Newbie

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    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
    Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX

    Running a Rock CTX Pro.

    The FPS you are getting in UT3 are due to poor tweaking of your ini coupled with high resolution (unnecessary).

    I have a 17" screen @ 1680x1050 but run the game @ 1088 x 612 (good fps are essential to play at any sort of decent skill level)

    [Engine.ISVHacks]
    UseMinimalNVIDIADriverShaderOptimization=True

    Above is a tweak for Nvidia cards to help with stuttering when rendering new objects

    [Engine.GameEngine]
    bSmoothFrameRate=False

    A tweak to uncap FPS

    [SystemSettings]
    StaticDecals=False
    DynamicDecals=False
    DynamicLights=False
    DynamicShadows=False
    LightEnvironmentShadows=False
    CompositeDynamicLights=True
    DirectionalLightmaps=False
    MotionBlur=False
    DepthOfField=False
    Bloom=False
    QualityBloom=False
    Distortion=False
    DropParticleDistortion=True
    SpeedTreeLeaves=False
    SpeedTreeFronds=False
    OnlyStreamInTextures=False
    LensFlares=False
    FogVolumes=True
    FloatingPointRenderTargets=True
    Trilinear=True
    OneFrameThreadLag=True
    UseVsync=False
    UpscaleScreenPercentage=True
    Fullscreen=True
    AllowD3D10=True
    EnableHighPolyChars=False
    SkeletalMeshLODBias=1
    ParticleLODBias=2147483647
    DetailMode=0
    ShadowFilterQualityBias=-1
    MaxAnisotropy=0
    MaxMultisamples=1
    MinShadowResolution=32
    MaxShadowResolution=512
    ResX=1088
    ResY=612
    ScreenPercentage=100.000000

    My settings, not necessarily the very best for performance (haven't really spent enough time fine tuning) but provides good fps whilst the game still looks good.

    My avg fps during a fly through benchmark was 111. However this was due to a couple of poor map optimisations - a lot of the time the card was giving ~165fps.

    Hope this helps :)

    EDIT: Forgot to mention the ini is located in My Documents > My Games > UT3 > UTEngine.ini
     
  38. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Got damn that UT3 screenshot looked horrible.
     
  39. 2low4u

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    1 week later i still havent played MOH:A...
     
  40. 2low4u

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    now my computer keeps overheating, even when playing the original HALO it shuts down after 5 minutes of play. any ideas what this is?
     
  41. 2low4u

    2low4u Notebook Guru

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    p.s this is after installing the NBF Mobileforce VS 163.75 M6 driver
     
  42. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    So do you run Vista? If you have XP install that too so you can dual boot. For XP I have the best drivers for you and those are XtremeG´s 91.47 2.50e. Those drivers are damn fast in games overall. My 7800GTX runs with those drivers just beautiful.

    Overheating? Clean out your laptop, then I mean open it up and clean out the fans and blow out all dust you can.

    No need to run Vista on a DX9 card, since you get better performance in XP. I run dual boot Vista and XP on my desktop rig, but then I also own a 8800GTX so I need Vista for DX10, but I never run any DX9 games in Vista, those are played in XP. Can´t be better than that.
     
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