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    GeForce Go 7950GTX SLI versus GeForce 8700M GT SLI

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JDELUNA, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. JDELUNA

    JDELUNA Notebook Deity

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    I am looking at the special going on for the Area-51 M9750 notebook. Which card in your opinion would be the best to get overall for games, etc. What makes it confusing is that looking at http://www.notebookcheck.net they list the GO 7950GTX SLI Higher than the 8700M GT SLI but the 8700M GT SLI scores higher on the 3DMark05 and 3DMark06 tests. I know do not believe everything that you read, but in your experience which one is faster, better, etc. I would like to see what people think. Thanks for your experience and thoughts. Happy Easter and God Bless !!! :)
     
  2. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    the 7950 performs alot better than the 8700 but the 8700 has dx10.
     
  3. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    7950GTX sli no question...forget about the 3dmark tests the 7950GTX's are much more powerful.

    BUT

    They dont support DX10, which isnt a problem really cause DX10 is pretty much a huge waste ATM.

    Plus why would you pay more for worse cards, doesnt make sense IMO.
     
  4. 72hundred

    72hundred Revolutions-Per-Millennia

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    Go with the 7950 - better for high res gaming due to a wider bus (128 -v- 256bit)

    72oo
     
  5. jessi3k3

    jessi3k3 Notebook Evangelist

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    *Obligatory notebookcheck is crap and sucks remark*
     
  6. Crimsonman

    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    I was about to say that... :p

    7950 GTX whomp the crap out of the 8700 GT.
     
  7. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    true the only reason i use notebookcheck is because of the gpu class.
    not even the order of the gpu's is right.

    ex: the 6800 is better than the 8600m gs. excluding dx10. yeah right
     
  8. narsnail

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    there probably around the same....it would not suprise me, the 256bit bus the 6800 had helps it out alot.
     
  9. talin

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    Yeah, and it seems like a total step backwards that Nvidia implemented only a 128 bit bus on the 8x series of cards (sans 8800). :rolleyes:
     
  10. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i think they should of put the 256 bit on the 8700.
     
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    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    Everyone does, but they didn't. So what are we going to do?
     
  12. JDELUNA

    JDELUNA Notebook Deity

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    Actually I found this on another site that shows the 7950 SLI much more powerful than the 8700 SLI and approaching the 8800M GTX. Hope this helps other people trying to decide as it has helped me. Now where are those Tax refunds I sent for, and the rebates they were talking about :p God Bless :)


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  13. Crimsonman

    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    Just because it approaches the 8800M GTX doesn't necessarily mean it can use both in the real world.
     
  14. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    hunt them down and kill them...

    i think one 8800m GTX is surpassed in some instances by 7950GTX SLI, but since SLI is a hit or miss it would have to depend on the game.
     
  15. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    of couse the 8800gtx can eat any sli set up now (except the 9800gtx)
     
  16. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah the 7950GTX just don´t cut it anymore in shader intensive games, it is nowhere near the single 8800m GTX in terms of performance in current games.
     
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    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/sibling-rivalry,review-1012-9.html

    The review is an older one where they compare SLI 8700 and SLI7950GTX.

    Basically in some games and especially at the absolutely higher resolutions the 7950GTX SLI takes the lead.

    In shader-intensive games like Oblivion, the 8700 SLI laptop wins pretty handily.

    Pretty much all the newest games (even if you play them in DX9) are shader-intensive where the 8xxx series cards are at their best.

    As the review points out, the decision is actually MUCH closer than most of the posters here claimed.
     
  18. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I had 8700m GT SLI in my first XPS M1730 before I sent it back and ordered with 8800m GTX SLI instead. But my 8700m GT SLI performed really damn well so it is not that far behind 7950GTX.
     
  19. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    so you which order would you get them in
     
  20. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well I know the 7950GTX is faster, but the 8700m GT has more raw shader power but is limited somewhat by it´s 128bit bus. Though I ran all my games in 1920x1200 without any problems with the 8700m GT SLI, of course not Crysis then.

    I would probably not buy a 7950GTX by now, since games gets more and more shader intensive this make the 8700m GT the more preferred choice even if it is limited by it´s 128 bit bus.

    But if you can get the 8800m GTX instead it crushes the 7950GTX hands down. I have two of these 8800m GTX in SLI and oh man it´s sick performance per se :) Crysis 1920x1200 DX10 without any problems :) Average 33 fps in the benchmark test, runs in game with 30-40 fps with some tweaks :)
     
  21. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    so it would be
    8800m sli
    8800m
    8700m sli
    7950gtx sli

    btw 1+ rep
     
  22. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    wrong

    the 7950GTX is well above the 8700m SLI, shading power is not a deciding factor here.

    EVERYONE

    READ this, should change your minds
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=171671
     
  23. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well it certainly is, the 7950 looses in raw shader power. But the 7950GTX is faster overall, though the 8700m GT now with mature drivers is pretty fast at least the SLI solution. I ran Oblivion, STALKER at 1920x1200 without a sweat and ran Crysis at 1680x1050 with a custom config. Now I must say even if the 8700m GT is DX10 it can´t run Crysis for instance in DX10, though Lost Planet ran great in DX10 at 1680x1050 almost all options on High.

    Most games today uses many shaders. But on the other hand the 7950GTX SLI should last you a while yet, they are fast cards but against 8800m GTX they stand no chance at all :)
     
  24. KernalPanic

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    Sigh... the 8700GT has grown much since that thread due to driver maturity.

    Worse, this is not an 8700GT vs 7950GTX thread... it is the SLI versions being compared in which the article I listed seems much more relevant than an old thread where people bash something they neither own nor understand.

    Shaders are pretty much everything in today's games Nars...
    Look at the Oblivion performance... still think shaders don't mean anything?

    Nars, to say the 7950GTX SLI is "well above" the 8700GT SLI is a complete lie.
    Read Tom's article and learn something for once.

    Magnus actually owned a rig with the card in question.
    Tom reviewed two similar rigs to the OP's question.

    Nars is speaking from the wrong orifice.
     
  25. Magnus72

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    Yeah the drivers have definitely matured since that article and those 8700m GT´s I had in SLI were crazy overclockers, I pushed them to something along 700+ Core, 1600+ Shaders and Mem around 900+ and it ran STALKER (Shader intensive game) at maxed settings at around 50-60 fps at 1920x1200 :)

    I don´t believe the 7950GTX is leaps ahead the 8700m GT SLI performance at all. In fact the 8700m GT SLI performed pretty damn good in my opinion. Try to run Lost Planet on a 7950GTX and tell me what framerates you get, I can bet you the 8700m GT beats it since it has more shader processors.
     
  26. narsnail

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    Funny how you dont own a 7950GTX yet you can claim to know more than other becuase you have one of the cards.

    Are they? I had no idea one game represented all of them.

    Yeah this BS again, I am still standing by my comment that the 7950GTX SLI is more powerful.

    Then why dont the both of you get together, have a little party, and actually provide some real world evidence and compare, and then come back when you actually have some evidence to back up what your talking about.

    Typing has nothing to do with orifices.
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/orifice
    There is the definition of orifice so you can use it correctly next time.
     
  27. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well isn´t my benchmarks proof enough? I´ll see if I can dig up that old thread I made about the performance. My 8700m GT´s are history I just said that they performed pretty darn well considering "how limited they are with their 128 bit bus" Though I didn´t see any big limitation with the 128 bit bus. First I heard about the 8700m GT were like "They will only run at lower resolutions" Well guess people were wrong, I ran everything I had at 1920x1200 and those few games that it did struggle with I ran at 1680x1050, yeah even Crysis I have a youtube vid of it :)
     
  28. narsnail

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    i never said it was bad card, the 7950GTX is just better. until games soley rely on shader power it will stay this way. This means that mem bandwidth will not matter and just shader power will be used in 3D intensive applications.
     
  29. JDELUNA

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    Just a thought has anyone actually called and asked Alienware what their thoughts on which one is better ??
     
  30. narsnail

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    there going to tell you the 8700m GT because its more money, and its a worse card.