I am looking at the special going on for the Area-51 M9750 notebook. Which card in your opinion would be the best to get overall for games, etc. What makes it confusing is that looking at http://www.notebookcheck.net they list the GO 7950GTX SLI Higher than the 8700M GT SLI but the 8700M GT SLI scores higher on the 3DMark05 and 3DMark06 tests. I know do not believe everything that you read, but in your experience which one is faster, better, etc. I would like to see what people think. Thanks for your experience and thoughts. Happy Easter and God Bless !!!![]()
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
the 7950 performs alot better than the 8700 but the 8700 has dx10.
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7950GTX sli no question...forget about the 3dmark tests the 7950GTX's are much more powerful.
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They dont support DX10, which isnt a problem really cause DX10 is pretty much a huge waste ATM.
Plus why would you pay more for worse cards, doesnt make sense IMO. -
Go with the 7950 - better for high res gaming due to a wider bus (128 -v- 256bit)
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*Obligatory notebookcheck is crap and sucks remark*
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
I was about to say that...
7950 GTX whomp the crap out of the 8700 GT. -
dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
not even the order of the gpu's is right.
ex: the 6800 is better than the 8600m gs. excluding dx10. yeah right -
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
Everyone does, but they didn't. So what are we going to do?
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Actually I found this on another site that shows the 7950 SLI much more powerful than the 8700 SLI and approaching the 8800M GTX. Hope this helps other people trying to decide as it has helped me. Now where are those Tax refunds I sent for, and the rebates they were talking about
God Bless
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
Just because it approaches the 8800M GTX doesn't necessarily mean it can use both in the real world.
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i think one 8800m GTX is surpassed in some instances by 7950GTX SLI, but since SLI is a hit or miss it would have to depend on the game. -
dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
of couse the 8800gtx can eat any sli set up now (except the 9800gtx)
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Yeah the 7950GTX just don´t cut it anymore in shader intensive games, it is nowhere near the single 8800m GTX in terms of performance in current games.
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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/sibling-rivalry,review-1012-9.html
The review is an older one where they compare SLI 8700 and SLI7950GTX.
Basically in some games and especially at the absolutely higher resolutions the 7950GTX SLI takes the lead.
In shader-intensive games like Oblivion, the 8700 SLI laptop wins pretty handily.
Pretty much all the newest games (even if you play them in DX9) are shader-intensive where the 8xxx series cards are at their best.
As the review points out, the decision is actually MUCH closer than most of the posters here claimed. -
I had 8700m GT SLI in my first XPS M1730 before I sent it back and ordered with 8800m GTX SLI instead. But my 8700m GT SLI performed really damn well so it is not that far behind 7950GTX.
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
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Well I know the 7950GTX is faster, but the 8700m GT has more raw shader power but is limited somewhat by it´s 128bit bus. Though I ran all my games in 1920x1200 without any problems with the 8700m GT SLI, of course not Crysis then.
I would probably not buy a 7950GTX by now, since games gets more and more shader intensive this make the 8700m GT the more preferred choice even if it is limited by it´s 128 bit bus.
But if you can get the 8800m GTX instead it crushes the 7950GTX hands down. I have two of these 8800m GTX in SLI and oh man it´s sick performance per seCrysis 1920x1200 DX10 without any problems
Average 33 fps in the benchmark test, runs in game with 30-40 fps with some tweaks
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
so it would be
8800m sli
8800m
8700m sli
7950gtx sli
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the 7950GTX is well above the 8700m SLI, shading power is not a deciding factor here.
EVERYONE
READ this, should change your minds
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Well it certainly is, the 7950 looses in raw shader power. But the 7950GTX is faster overall, though the 8700m GT now with mature drivers is pretty fast at least the SLI solution. I ran Oblivion, STALKER at 1920x1200 without a sweat and ran Crysis at 1680x1050 with a custom config. Now I must say even if the 8700m GT is DX10 it can´t run Crysis for instance in DX10, though Lost Planet ran great in DX10 at 1680x1050 almost all options on High.
Most games today uses many shaders. But on the other hand the 7950GTX SLI should last you a while yet, they are fast cards but against 8800m GTX they stand no chance at all -
Sigh... the 8700GT has grown much since that thread due to driver maturity.
Worse, this is not an 8700GT vs 7950GTX thread... it is the SLI versions being compared in which the article I listed seems much more relevant than an old thread where people bash something they neither own nor understand.
Shaders are pretty much everything in today's games Nars...
Look at the Oblivion performance... still think shaders don't mean anything?
Nars, to say the 7950GTX SLI is "well above" the 8700GT SLI is a complete lie.
Read Tom's article and learn something for once.
Magnus actually owned a rig with the card in question.
Tom reviewed two similar rigs to the OP's question.
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Yeah the drivers have definitely matured since that article and those 8700m GT´s I had in SLI were crazy overclockers, I pushed them to something along 700+ Core, 1600+ Shaders and Mem around 900+ and it ran STALKER (Shader intensive game) at maxed settings at around 50-60 fps at 1920x1200
I don´t believe the 7950GTX is leaps ahead the 8700m GT SLI performance at all. In fact the 8700m GT SLI performed pretty damn good in my opinion. Try to run Lost Planet on a 7950GTX and tell me what framerates you get, I can bet you the 8700m GT beats it since it has more shader processors. -
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Well isn´t my benchmarks proof enough? I´ll see if I can dig up that old thread I made about the performance. My 8700m GT´s are history I just said that they performed pretty darn well considering "how limited they are with their 128 bit bus" Though I didn´t see any big limitation with the 128 bit bus. First I heard about the 8700m GT were like "They will only run at lower resolutions" Well guess people were wrong, I ran everything I had at 1920x1200 and those few games that it did struggle with I ran at 1680x1050, yeah even Crysis I have a youtube vid of it
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Just a thought has anyone actually called and asked Alienware what their thoughts on which one is better ??
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GeForce Go 7950GTX SLI versus GeForce 8700M GT SLI
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JDELUNA, Mar 23, 2008.