GeForce Hotfix Driver v353.49

Source: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3698

This is a GeForce Hot Fix driver, version 353.49 that addresses the following issue:

Sony Vegas Pro crashes

in addition, this driver also includes the same fixes which were part of our previous 353.38 hotfix driver release:

Chrome Crashes/Freezes/TDRs

Delays when starting or switching apps & games with GSYNC enabled

Download the NVIDIA GeForce Desktop and Notebook 353.45 hotfix driver according to your operating system.

Desktop
Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 32-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi...win8-win7-winvista-32bit-international.hf.exe

Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 64-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi...win8-win7-winvista-64bit-international.hf.exe

Windows 10 32-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi...3.49-desktop-win10-32bit-international.hf.exe

Windows 10 64-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi...3.49-desktop-win10-64bit-international.hf.exe

Notebook
Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 32-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi...win8-win7-winvista-32bit-international.hf.exe

Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 64-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi...win8-win7-winvista-64bit-international.hf.exe

Windows 10 32-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi....49-notebook-win10-32bit-international.hf.exe

Windows 10 64-bit:
http://international.download.nvidi....49-notebook-win10-64bit-international.hf.exe

 

353.45 or 353.49 ?
and how do we even find hotfixes on the nvidia site ?

 

Well there is not one particular source but mostly, I find them on http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/

This time though, as I do my daily software updates check, I was checking to see the Display Driver Uninstaller updates and on their website they had mentioned this driver: Display Driver Uninstaller

 

mostly i find them on the official geforce forums.

 

Nice with such small updates @Matrix Leader6 . Continue with this .

 

Another screwed up driver... again. I plan to release a bad publicity video for every driver version until their mess gets fixed.

Whatever kind of cancer filth they added, they can just go right ahead and remove it.

Please watch, click the thumbs up and share as you feel lead to do so. They can run, but they can't hide.

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Welcome to the Throttling Zone! LOL! Thumbed up

 

classic!!

 

but in all of the new drivers i put the power management mode to prefer maximum performance and my cards never throttle but im using svl7 even when i overclock the only throttle i have is the cpu i still dont know how to fix that i think i need to repaste with liquid ultra i have IC Diamond maybe it will be good

 

Just consider yourself lucky then. And, wait... that might change as fast is it did for me going from February to March. NVIDIA flipped a switch and ruined everything... instantly. This all started about the same time at the clock-blocking bull dukey. It should be obvious to everyone they have an agenda that we should all be EXTREMELY concerned about. It's not in our best interests.

After more than a year 880M SLI finally starts working right (which a lot of nice people deserve) and then they break 780M SLI in the process. I've already had a couple of people with Clevos running 780M SLI message me that they are having the same problems shown in my videos. It would be helpful if they and others would start making a big stink about it, too. Squeaky wheels are the ones that get the grease. Every 780M SLI owner should be bouncing off the walls and sending hate mail over this, even if they don't see a problem yet. Coming soon to a beast near you!

I think the lack of outcry and outpouring of wrath from the public is very damaging in many areas of life. That conceals incompetence, sends a message it's OK to be incompetent, and allows insignificant selfish special interests that do not have the greater good of society at heart to get away with things they should have no input or influence on... tail is wagging the dog. That's probably why Alienware has gone the direction they have. Think about it. Why should they bust their tails or spend a lot of money to build something awesome when so few people are paying attention, don't know anything, or just don't care. Enthusiasts everywhere should be raining down some serious hell-fire and brimstone over all of the pathetic new trash on the market. Consumer retaliation against product manufacturers should be swift, brutal and merciless unless we wish to see more of the same. These are not our friends and neighbors, so we do not need to be nice to them, or "get along" just for the sake of having harmony.

I mean, c'mon, multiple IdeaStorm submissions with threads here had thousands of views and less than 100 people took action by promoting and commenting at IdeaStorm. One great example of why we are in the mess we are in. Very, very, very sad... and largely the fault of consumer tolerance and indifference that things are so screwed up everywhere we look.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
-Edmund Burke​

 

here is a log file from my both cards while playing dota 2 with the 353.49

 

Well, Dota 2 and most other games are not going to tell you anything meaningful. If the clocks are stable running 3DMark 11 test 1 and 2, Fire Strike test 1 and 2, 3DMark Vantage, BF4, Crysis 3, etc., etc., then you're in good shape. If not, then your GPUs are still broken.

 

here is firestrike graphic test 1 and 2 stock and mom oc +450

 

and this is oc playing crysis 3 the only thing is throttling is the cpu

 

Man, finally. Logs look pretty good. GPUs are getting a tiny bit warm, but not enough to be a huge problem as long as the clocks are holding.

This is how 880M should have worked on launch day. I am very happy for 880M SLI owners if most are finally seeing this. It doesn't excuse what they added to drivers that is causing problems for others now, but it's good to see no less.

 

yes but it might be the svl7 vbios helping also i dont know if stock vbios would work like this now but its ok i never use my pc on battery so and if i do i switch to intel graphics or ill have a problem because svl7 does not work on battery and the driver will crash

 

Oh yeah, I seriously doubt the stock vBIOS would do that. I'd be shocked if it did because they make the GPUs behave erratically on purpose... going all the way back to Fermi, NVIDIA stock desktop and mobile vBIOS have sucked.

In addition to a couple of Clevo 780M SLI owners sending me messages that they have the same kind of throttling, I see more desktop owners are finally getting a gut full of 6+ months of screwed up drivers. NVIDIA needs to get their act together. Having a mixture of good and bad experiences is going to bite them in the butt. The 2x, 3x, 4x SLI owners buy lots of video cards... they will regret it if they don't get in front of this problem real soon.

OT: Man, YouTube sure is acting goofy the last day or two. Anyone heard anything about this? I had a terrible time getting the videos to upload this morning and the entire web site is extremely sluggish.

Announcing GeForce Hotfix driver 353.49 (Released 7/8/15)

 

Nvidia are totally screwing around on the desktop side of things. They haven't even had one single working/bugless set of drivers for 980ti since its release. I've had to mod early 350.12 gtx 980 drivers to get things as they should be.

Add to that. I think Nvidia's SLI Frame pacing is absolutely horrid right now. I reluctantly ditched 980 SLI in favour of a single 980ti since it sucked so bad.
Where's the joy of gaming at 140fps in SLI when 80fps felt smoother on a single.

 

I know what you mean TBoneSan. I get random framedrops/stutters in The Crew with my 970 SLI, on a GSync monitor no less (Acer XB270HU, and so much for GSync being revolutionary and a "game changer" ), even though the game caps FPS to 60, and when the stuttering occurs the FPS always shows 60 rofl

Same thing with Watch Dogs, playing with SLI on at 80 FPS actually feels less smooth than a single card at 60 FPS, but I mainly blame Ubisoft for breaking SLI after patch v1.05, yet they fixed the texture streaming issue which was causing stutters, hence single card wins.

I still think SLI makes sense for laptops since they need all the raw power they can get, but on the desktop side, you'd have to pay me to go multi-GPU again for gaming.

 

Yeah. They badly need to get their act together because it's simply not fun playing with all that input lag and stutter. Interesting that you had a similar experience. Thing is I never experienced this with trusty Kepler 780m in SLI or I could simply be looking at my old R2 through rose tinted glasses.

From PCPer's review, framepacing is somewhere AMD may have Nvidia right now... at least in DX11. I really want to give AMD another chance... but I still haven't forgiven them for 7970m.

 

i did try the stock vbios is does throttle but i mean @Mr. Fox why dont u just use the modded vbios from svl7 and it will fix all your problems with throttling ?!

 

Yes! Finally someone says it!!! And I knew it would be you based on your past posts and comments. I have been screaming this for years. Explains why we are where we are in all aspects of life right now. Cheers, kudos, props and a salute to you Mr. Fox.

oh, and I still think there is a great case for a class action against NVIDIA for the 880 situation alone. Rebranding old chips, purposely crippling due to being aware they are defective, etc. Not to mention the overclock scam and other things. But..well you know.

 

It has finally caught up to NVIDIA. We all feared this would happen (in the Alienware section).

You shouldn't have to use a modified vBIOS to have properly functioning components. That's like purchasing a Lamborghini and not being able to go over 60MPH without a custom tune or ECU. Products should work as they're supposed to from the start. AMD and NVIDIA have both fallen to horrific lows.

I still wouldn't put it passed NVIDIA purposely crippling performance to create the illusion that people need to upgrade when Pascal hits because it's the biggest thing since Kepler... It has been a long time coming and they wanna take it to the bank. There's no other legitimate reasoning for this.

It's their own fault people haven't been upgrading. They keep re-branding stuff, lol.

 

Yeah that XDMA bridgeless CrossFire really seems to be working some magic. HardOCP also agrees:

 

I already am. It does not make any difference. This is a driver malfunction problem that has nothing to do with the vBIOS. The behavior is exactly the same no matter vBIOS I use. If you watch my videos, this is obvious. NVIDIA changed something in the drivers after 345.20 that is causing 780M SLI to malfunction. Two Clevo owners with 780M SLI has contacted me and said they are having the same problem. There could be something with PCIe power caps in the BIOS that contributes to it, (not all machines have that,) but the fact remains they changed something in the drivers that was a massive mistake and the problem instantly vanishes when I stop using the screwed up GeForce drivers.

FYI to all. I installed a second 780M in the M18xR1 and the throttling behavior is identical to the M18xR2. I just tested it with 353.06 (was installed) and it does it. It has zero throttle with 345.20 or older drivers.

That could be it. It could be that they just screwed up real bad. It could also be that some OEMs and maybe Micro$haft are paying them millions of dollars to ruin older machines in an effort to spur sales of new machines with Windows 10 where upgrading GPUs has always been successful, affordable, and more attractive option. I would not put it past them for same reasons you mentioned about Pascal. Same concept, different perpetrator(s).

 

IF they broke something a while back (after 347.xx) and still haven't fixed it or acknowledged issue exists, wow.

NVIDIA developers jammin' to this in the labs:

Spoiler: Obnoxious song, but point made.

 

well i dont know what to say man hope they fix it for you and everyone pretty soon

 

Does anyone have an older driver like 350 .12 with all the latest sli profiles for newer games added to it. I can't even use 353.xx anything drivers . Or is there a how to guide to import the latest profiles to older drivers. 350.12 works great for me but would like to play batman and Witcher in sli .
Thanks .

 

Maybe you can try this software to export and import profiles.

Code:

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2625/kw/Profile

or use nVidia inspector.

 

How do I do it using i nvidia inspector.? Sorry I'm still learning
Nvidia inspector is not same as nvidia control panel right.?

 

The problem with both the GeForce 3D Profile Manager (used to be excellent) and NVIDIA Inspector is neither one allow you to import all profiles. I believe what broke both tools is the increase in games with profiles that use Chinese and maybe other Asian characters that the tools cannot handle. The export function works, only the import is broken. If you open the exported file with Notepad and delete all of the profiles for games with those goofy characters the import function works again. Almost all of them are games most of us have never even heard of, so there is no reason for them to exist in the profiles. Doing that is time consuming. You don't need to keep any profiles for games or applications that you do not use, so you can delete massive amounts of information from the all-inclusive master profile, leaving only what matters to you.

@Player2 - install the latest drivers. Open NVIDIA Inspector's driver tweaking tool. Select the profiles for the newest games that need newer drivers (GTA V, Witcher 3, Batman: Arkham Knight, etc.) one-by-one. Go back to old drivers that work well, and using NVIDIA Inspector, import those individual profiles. Or, install GeForce Experience and let it update the profiles for you. It will not work as well as the newer drivers those games depend on, but it will be better than doing nothing.

You will find buttons on the tool bar in the NVIDIA Inspector driver tweaking tool to export and import. You access the driver tweaking tool by clicking the button to the right of the driver version that has an icon that looks like a crossed wrench and screwdriver.

 

Ok so if I download latest Driver using gforce experience . Install driver and let gforce experience update profiles then reinstall 350.12 I will have sli profiles for latest games but will be running 350.12 driver.?
Sounds to good to be true.
Anyway I'm downloading latest driver.
Just hope my computer don't freeze up with latest Driver like it was with any 353 driver and gives me enough time to get back to 350.12 after gforce experience downloads latest profiles.

 

You know, given that Alienware produces nothing but BGA junk right now, could it be that nVidia in their infinite wisdom, decided it would be in everybody's interest to just severely throttle anything with an Alienware vbio regardless of whether it was pre-BGA era notebooks? I remember you saying your P570WM seemed to be OK (but don't quote me on this), and if that's true, seems to lend some credence to my theory.

 

Yes, except for the fact that at least two Clevo 780M SLI owners have stated they are having the same issues with 780M SLI. It may be a similar problem with a different cause. I do think there is a connection like the one you mention though. Once power draw goes over 325W to 350W and stays there for a few seconds, the system become totally spastic and throttles down to a power draw level of 180W, which is hard to ignore since the crappy new Alienware systems ship with 180W AC adapters. It could also be that this cancerous driver code is somehow affecting some people that do not have an Alienware laptop.

I also doubt it is a malicious attack designed to ruin the experience of beast machine owners. I suspect it may be a "bright idea" some moron, or maybe even a team of idiots, had that is geared exclusively toward anemic systems that did not include any level of professional awareness or reflection on how their stupidity would affect folks that are not running a pathetic pile of garbage notebook. Whatever the reason(s) the implementation is really bad and it is an unnecessary endeavor for them. Everyone will be limited by the capacity of their AC adapter(s) and doing something with drivers to augment that limitation is a demonstration of stupidity.

We also have to consider the fact that most gamers don't have a clue how their systems are running as long as their games seem to work OK. They are mostly oblivious to clock speeds and temps until they recognize a problem and start screaming for help. This could be a widespread problem that many are totally oblivious to because the GPU throttling does not happen playing most games, and even when it does it is not so severe as if you are benching and looking at scores. Even on the rare game that throttles, things seem pretty smooth. I suspect NVIDIA is banking on not many people noticing. My hope it that my videos that highlight their cancer drivers will cause at least a few more people to look closer at their own systems, see it, and get angry about it.

I can use these nasty new drivers on my 780M SLI beasts to play games without any severe issues. I still have a problem with that because the issue is present, I know it, and overclocked benching is far more important to me than playing games. If all I cared about was playing games, I can do that with a $600 Alpha or some other turd Steambox pile of crap.

Edit: hopefully, we are making some progress... at least a few people are starting to think outside of the box and pause their notebook hating long enough to understand more is at stake... see this post and the reply by "Acidphase" in GeForce forums.

You're confusing two different procedures. Maybe I did not explain well enough.

Option #1: install the latest crappy drivers, export the new optimized profiles included with the latest crappy drivers. Export only those profiles you need using NVIDIA Inspector. Then, go back to using good drivers and use NVIDIA Inspector to import the profiles that you exported. Got GTA V, Witcher 3, or Arkham Knight? Export those you need, one by one, using NVIDIA Inspector. Don't have any of those? Don't waste your time doing anything. Just use drivers that work right and life will be good.

Option #2: do not install newer drivers that are messed up. Continue using those that work well. Install GeForce Experience and let it down profile updates ( not driver updates). You don't have to use the game optimization feature to download updated profiles.

 

Thank you for taking the time to try and help me Mr . Fox.
I've always had gforce experience installed but I don't use the optimize part of it . I see arkem knight in there but when I launch game it's still in single card mode.
Do I have to launch the game through gfe for sli to work or can I still launch it from desktop icon. ? And how do I download profile for game .? I can't find the option to do so.

 

If you have GFE installed and it is downloading updates as they are released, you already have the latest profile and no action is required to use it. If it is there it will be working without your input. There is no need to "use" GFE to launch the game or do anything out of the ordinary.

The only way Arkham Knight will work well with any driver older than the "Game Ready" version is to designate your secondary GPU as a dedicated PhysX processor. This works really well for me. Doing this disables SLI, but it puts the secondary GPU to good use. Otherwise, the secondary GPU is not used for the anything and the primary GPU gets strapped with doing all of the work by itself. Dedicating the secondary for PhysX processing lifts that burden off of the primary GPU and allows it to concentrate on other things. That's not as good as SLI working, but better than a single GPU.

The Game Ready driver released for Arkham Knight works better for SLI, but introduces throttling for me. You have to pick your poison.

 

I install 353.49 but ended up going right back to 350.12 because my desktop was freezing when I restarted and I couldn't switch between metro and desktop. Dang new drivers are messed up . I don't even care for fps boost or anything new drivers have to offer. I just want sli to work with 350.12

 

Ok will just use second card for physx until a new driver comes out that actually works

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/PC-man...sktops-laptops-and-ultramobiles.146263.0.html

 

Title should be changed to: "GeForce Hot mess Driver v353.49."

 

I know i dont have much to add since my card is far from high end but im also experiencing the same problems with the newer drivers. Same problem i posted in the 353.06 thread before but now i have throtting issues when i play games and the sensors from gpu-z are broken. The only plus from these newer drivers that i gain a small score boost in benchmarks but thats about it. Went back to 350.12 and then 347.88 and its back to normal with no issues.

 

I've been using 347.88 and it's glorious. The latest drivers are turds, and it upsets me that reviewers are YouTube don't realize it. Their reviews are inaccurate. For example, LinusTechTips recommends updating the the latest drivers, lol. Horrible scores in their reviews.

 

This comes as no surprise to those that know better. Par for the course. Take most professional reviews with a grain of salt and extract what you need from them (such as specs). Those that are paid to say nice things (and avoid pointing out serious flaws with products from the people that pay them) are some of the biggest offenders. Those that are extremely critical, brutal in reporting their findings and do not receive any compensation or freebies are often the most accurate.

 

There is an unofficial beta driver 353.51 from r352_00-214 branch

Code:

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-353-51-driver-download.html

 

I'm actually giving this driver a go. I don't notice throttling, but I'm using Prema vbios. The only thing I found interesting was I didn't have to mod the driver to get it to install. It just installed.

 

I tested it and it throttles my 780M SLI just like all of the drivers released after 345.20 do.

 

Hey Mr. Fox, just want to make sure if I'm looking at my stuff correctly. When I start a game I see my cards starts at 1038mhz. Then they both go to 1202mhz, using Prema vbios and never move until I quit what I'm doing. Without modded vbios the readings would be up and down and much lower. This is what I mean by no throttling, is that right?

 

@Scanner - Yes, that is correct. Try running 3DMark 11 and see if the clocks hold in Test #1 and Test #2. If not, you are going to having throttling in some of the most demanding games. If the clock speeds hold, then that's good news.

I was able to install the stock driver under Windows 8.1 without a mod and without disabling DSE on my M18xR2 with 780M SLI. The reason the driver installs without an INF mod the driver is using one INF (nv_dispe.inf) for all systems and all GPUs. On this surface, this seems like a good thing. I am hoping this is not a standard NVIDIA INF. If it is, then it would seem clear they are going out of their way to make driver tweaking more of a pain in the hind end for folks like me and @j95 because it has no line breaks and it is a gigantic incoherent jumbled up mess of text. It will take waste a lot of time to clean up to the point that the content is coherent enough to mod. See screen shot attached.

Edit: opening the INF in Word and re-saving it seems to fix the CR/LF jumbled up mess, but that will break the signature. I'm guessing this is probably an example of a new INF to support Windows 10 drivers through Windows Updates. The good news is, potentially, people with aftermarket GPU upgrades may not have to use an INF because of how Micro$haft is going all control freak on us with Windows 10. The bad news is, they are messing with us and this worthless driver still makes my 780M SLI setup throttle like a pile of garbage. Ultimately, I really don't give a rat's tail about WHQL and signed drivers horse hockey... they are irrelevant as far as I am concerned. Throttling is not irrelevant. I want my system to work right, but I don't need or want any of their help with security.

*sigh* back to old drivers... AGAIN.

 

@Mr. Fox, I ran all four of the graphic tests with 3DMark 11 and once the tests started the GPUs spun up to 1126mhz and never moved down until the tests were done. This of course using the Prema vbios, its a whole different story using my stock original vbios-it was a roller coaster going own.

 

Well, that's really good news. I'm glad it's working right for you, bro.