Gears of War 4

Haven't seen thread on this yet. Is anyone playing? I hear the PC version was done great by the Coalition. I skipped it because they failed to implement Multi-GPU on launch as promised!

 

seems amazingly optimized.. wait for perf reviews..
#1 http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/gears-of-war-4-test-gpu

 

With my P870DM-G below, was getting between 100-120FPS on average. Already completed the campaign on Normal and will be waiting for a friend before attempting the hardest difficulty.

 

Any luck getting any kind of sli or crossfire working ?

 

good to hear. my CPU is OC'd so i should be OK for ultra at 1080p

 

Anyone figured out a hack, tweak or workaround to get this game installed without worthless Windows 10 Store filth being involved? I remove the Windows Store garbage, Cortana the digi-slut, and all of the Apps flith from my ISO before installing Windows 10.

 

Gears of War 4 - 19 GPU [DX12] Benchmark @ Three Resolutions

 

so my 980 sli doesn't support async compute? I thought it did? Option is missing in this game for me

 

Are you running Windows 10 and have the latest Nvidia driver installed?

 

yes and yes

 

Weird. I wonder what's up...

I know async shading is only supported in software for the Maxwell GPU's, maybe the DX12 Async Compute requires hardware support, only available in Nvidia Pascal or AMD?

Relax, NVIDIA's Maxwell GPUs can do DX12 asynchronous shading after all
http://www.pcgamesn.com/relax-nvidias-maxwell-gpus-can-do-dx12-asynchronous-shading-after-all

 

I think its only pascal that supports it

 

Async shading is only supported in software for the Maxwell GPU's, maybe the DX12 Async Compute requires hardware support, only available in Nvidia Pascal or AMD?

Relax, NVIDIA's Maxwell GPUs can do DX12 asynchronous shading after all
http://www.pcgamesn.com/relax-nvidias-maxwell-gpus-can-do-dx12-asynchronous-shading-after-all

 

Lame.....

 

Only problem is that the game uses the Win10 Store to sync with the XBox PC module. Installation is different than normally installed apps and is handled by store.

 

Well that just sucks. I removed the XBOX feces from my ISO as well. The stupid morons at Microsoft need to have a lobotomy with dirty carpentry tools for doing that. We should not have to tolerate their malware to play GoW4.

 

Welcome to Windows Store...

They killed GFWL and basically borked several classic titles into oblivion because they just shut it down without any support, and then implement Windows Store which is just as bad if not worse. It's too bad how far Microsoft has fallen. I used to have a lot of respect for them, but since the whole Windows 8 debacle, they have done nothing but irritate the power user base, and take control from them.

 

Yup. On the scale of messed upness I rank them near the top, just below devil worshipers, establishment politicians, and BGA filth.

 

Why do you guys think they brought xbox exclusive pc gamers want to win10?

Well, nowadays I dont have time to game so, I guess not a huge loss for me....

 

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this, but since you asked, the only way is to pirate the game, assuming it's already been cracked. GoW4 is a UWP game, meaning total Windows Store integration to handle all the downloading, patching/updating, and DRM among others. It's like trying to play a Steamworks game without the Steam client.

 

I still own the original GoW for PC that I purchased when Vista was the newest OS and I first started playing on my XPS M1730 laptop with 8800M SLI and Core2 Duo. I still play it under W7 and W10 as a "portable version" of the game. It was supposed to be GFWL and required inserting the DVD to launch. So, I have been using a modded exe file since about 2008 because that's too much of a pain in the butt to put up with. It runs fine anywhere I want to drag and drop it. That's how things are supposed to be. DRM filth sucks.

 

Yeah, too bad UWP locks out many things compared to traditional Win32, one of which is exe modding.

 

The reasons that Windows 10 sucks are legion. Some of them are mere annoyances, but others are grievous and unforgivable, like that one. Anything that stops me from doing whatever I feel like doing on my computers needs to be treated like malware and PUPs. Windows 10 also behaves like a hybrid cross between a rootkit and a Trojan. But, you would never know that based on how many Kool-Aid drinkers there are worshipping at the throne of the Redmond Nazis. Security is subjective, and I have never felt more vulnerable with a Windows OS as I do now with Windows 10. I find myself wondering what valuable feature they are going to remove or ruin next. I have not found anything compelling yet, but I am keeping an eye open for some evidence of intelligent design to surface.

 

I'm enjoying the single player so far. Lucky I have an Xbox though, certain parts of the game crash to desktop on my Lenovo Y510p. Maybe I should turn off SLI since I'm fairly certain it's not helping that much.

I just wish I could play it on PC with no issues but so far it has been anything but. I'm guaranteed one crash every 1.5 hours. Granted my system isn't the greatest machine but it meets the minimum.

 

It's Sli, needs to be disabled. The company that showed off multi GPU options 2 weeks ago in the menus decided To not include it at launch and BS a bunch of PC gamers. DX12 is the worst thing that ever happened to sli. DX11 titles this year have all shipped with sli working.

 

Tried it for a bit. runs at ultra with a couple of settings changed to high, at around 60-80fps on a single stock 980m.

More than well optimized, it is designed in mind with much weaker hardware and it shows. I am not particularly impressed with its graphics so far, but also not disappointed. Looks alright and obviously runs in excess of expected performance.

Will check it later on with time, and hopefully we can have multi GPU support soon.

Also, as HaloGod2012 said, disable SLI otherwise you will have random glitches/crashes. I had one at first.

 

Yeah the graphics are not up to PC standards at all. Def feels and looks console. Textures aren't too great and the particles/effects are nothing compared to, say Shadow Warrior 2.

 

Definitely looks better on console for me at the moment. And as console games go it has decent looking graphics. I'll definitely try it single gpu tonight on PC.

 

Sounds like Batman: Arkham Knight all over again, with the SLI issues and looking better on console than PC. Leave it to Micro$loth to screw up something that should have been nice. They seem to be highly effective at ruining good software with their special touch, LOL. We probably should have expected it to turn out like crap since it is designed for Windows 10 and DX12. And, I had high hopes for GoW4... bummer. I guess I should have known better, considering the source.

 

I can't understand where directx went south. When dx 12 was announced it was so promising. Now here we are what 2 years later? Game adoption is minimal, benefits are minor or not at all in most titles.

Yeesh. I'm not mad at Microsoft yet, I still have hope. I think they just need to listen to the right voices and make better choices. They can be saved.

My complaint with previous gears games has been the story, but this one seems a bit more polished. Kudos there Coalition.

 

DX12 was the dangling carrot to suck in the gamers that never would have gone along with the program otherwise. Had they made DX12 available on W7 and W8.X PCs there are probably tons that never would have stayed with the W10 abortion. A lot of us called B.S. on that DX12 crap as a deceptive shenanigan from the very beginning and now their actions are actually bearing that out. Almost every move they make with W10 is designed to screw their customers and eliminate autonomy and freedom to make their own decisions.

 

Use translate http://www.sweclockers.com/test/22807-snabbtest-battlefield-1-i-directx-11-och-directx-12
*The game's DirectX 12 game play, however, remains somewhat of a mystery* A mystery? NO More like Fraud/scams from M$.

 

Incredible! This is a prime example of my complaint right now with ms. You have two different divisions in the company right? Windows and Xbox. And on the one hand it seems like they are really integrating technology and innovation, like how I bought gears of war 4 once but I can play it on both platforms.

On the other hand, it is gimped by issues like Windows store install errors (took 1 hr troubleshooting to fix), DX12 and of course no multi gpu support.

There are three reasons why I can still move on with my life. 1. I can load the game on both platforms at once for up to 4 player local (using two different accounts). 2. The game is actually decent. 3. I'm getting free codes for all the previous gears games for Xbox 360, which I did not already own. That was really the clincher for me.

I don't think these are excuses for Microsoft not being innovative, but I can definitely live with my purchase. Now just don't ask me about my Windows Phone or you'll really get me started

 

Oh, I don't blame you or think bad about all of the the things you mentioned. Some of those are attractive propositions for reasons similar to why Steam is so popular. All good reasons, at least on the surface. The problem is not the idea as much as the company behind it, its execution and their exceedingly evil underlying agenda. Knowing they are purely evil at the core and consumed by the love of themselves and money, consider all they have done and how that might play into their diabolical plans. They are anti-innovation when innovation takes money out of their pockets or doesn't originate from their own command and control brain trust.

PC gaming takes business away from XBOX. DX12 is a key component in Micro$loth's roadmap that is engineered to ruin PC gaming. By diluting the PC Master Race with console cancer they construct a self-fulfilling prophecy. Is it a coincidence that Windows Store games are screwed up? Or, is it an incentive for point-and-click gamers to do it the easy way with XBOX? What about NVIDIA's monopoly, the dwindling support for SLI and the absence of AMD's relevance in most things related to PC and PC gaming? Is AMD's abandonment of excellence in PC and diversion of their focus on console chips coincidental, or insider knowledge of the Redmond Digi-Nazi agenda?

Don't think for a moment that XBOX seeks to eliminate all console competition. Their goal is to eliminate all things gaming that are not XBOX or a direct revenue stream for Micro$haft. If they can make PC gaming suck, the things they are doing to Windows won't matter because their dystopian vision of gaming is that all roads lead to XBOX. Now more than ever, it is critical to all that we hold dear for Steam and their Linux gaming initiative be successful. Steam is truly the last and best hope for the future of real gaming and high performance PCs.

Windows 10 and UWP has attractive aspects to it, but this is based on a diabolical plan designed to stifle innovation and further the monopoly of the Redmond Mafia. There are some disturbing similarities and parallels to the issues that make the proliferation of pathetic BGA turdbooks fundamentally wrong, evil and anti-customer at the core. The industry that we are all passionate about is no longer the bastion of innovators and geniuses. It is the domain of despots and fraudsters. Terminology such as Redmond Mafia, Digi-Nazis and BGA turdbooks are more than cute-sounding terms of disrespect and contempt. Sure, it's certainly funny to throw out derogatory nicknames like that, but they are unfortunately accurate and chilling ways to describe the agenda of an empire that has betrayed us, plans to continue their betrayal and certainly has more extremely dirty tricks in store for us... and, they're laughing all the way to the bank.

Micro$loth is powered by evil principles... notice the similarities of their behavior, and all of the ODM/OEM puppets that they have gripped by the gonads, resemble the words of an insane foreign politician. This imbecile is dead now, but his words live on... mocking us. Let's all have another BGA turd sandwich... but don't worry about the flavor, you'll get used to it, and the aroma. And don't forget, there is a bottomless pitcher of Windows 10 Kool-Aid for all who are willing to drink from it. A chicken in every pot, and an XBOX under every Christmas tree.

@D2 Ultima

 

3 years ago I might have said you were being alarmist, spinning conspiracy theories. But in fact there is not one shred of evidence that you are wrong. And I don't feel like this stops with MS and the PC industry.

Google, Facebook, neither have our best interest in mind. Apple has become a shell of its glory days persona. I think we can only find what we are seeking from small companies with niche products. But even they will struggle constantly against the giants of our time.

 

you guys are getting way OT.

keep the talk to the game only and not about your MS conspiracy theories people!

 

My biggest worry is that this will become the norm and PC gamers would be expected to face these issues. Just like for some games, it has become normal for companies to assume that PC gamers would use mods to rectify the issues they should address in the first place. Meanwhile even if they get a ting peice of hair wrong on console, there is a $h!tstorm.

So far im still sticking with windows 7, but i dont know for how long untill i give in to W10.

 

You and me too, pal. It's already moving in that direction. I'm dual booting W7 and W10. W7 is still better. Don't feel pressured to jump to W10. You are missing out on absolutely nothing. I'm only dual booting because some benchmarks get higher scores in W7 and others are higher in W10. Otherwise, there would be no room for the W10 cancer OS in my life.

 

Maybe we can get gears 4 to run on linux! Lol jk

 

again, quit with your conspiracy theories people. don't use this thread as an avenue for such talk. if you feel the need to share such ideas, feel free to make a separate thread cos this thread don't need to be clogged with unrelated discussion.

If you can judge or talk about the game on its own merits then don't bother posting as it's really annoying (regardless of whether the theories may be true or not).

either way i am having fun with this game, it's not bad for a UWP game - 60fps maxed out on ultra settings.

 

You know OS talk is relevant when it affects the performance of the game being discussed. People need to know what they may be getting into. I lost over an hour just troubleshooting a Windows store error that prevented me from downloading gears 4. If I didn't own an Xbox and I wasn't tech savvy, I would have been stuck with a dud.

I consider that relevant as well as discussing the reasons and history that brought Microsoft to the point we are at today. If you feel that strongly this was OT, just report to a mod. They will decide.

 

to a degree but really it should not degrade into MS conspiracy theories....which is has become.

this game's performance is a non-issue as it runs really well on ultra settings.

 

Indeed, it does. I imaged my cancer-free W10 Enterprise installation and clean installed the "Tickle Me Elmo" consumer filth edition of W10 Pro last night. With my P750ZM (980M w/o overclock) it runs great with Ultra settings. Now that I have all of the necessary files and registry keys available for export, I need to figure out if I can find a way to make it work as a "portable" version so I can go back to my cancer-free installation. Not sure I can tolerate the Kool-Aid version for very long. It's already making me angry.

 

Excellent game, but too expensive, i cant afford a game for 70euros ! It's PC M$, not console !

 

Does anyone else have issue with installing it on a drive other than "C:" drive? If I choose my D: drive where I install all my games it gives me error 0x80070490. Same issue with Forza Horizon 3. I can install to C: drive, and then move to D: drive. But then if it needs an update, it errors out again, and I have to move it back to C: drive.

 

Yes, I ran into the same issue. Had it installed on my E: drive 1TB SSD for games and had to put it on C: drive. Micro$oft never does anything right, LOL.

 

This is just dumb. Plain ass dumb. I mean is this 1986 or 2016? Can't choose where to install a damn game?

The sad thing is they let you change the location of Windows Store apps. But they don't work if you do. I mean really, Microshaft, if you are going to implement something like a store front, make it flexible.

I'm going to try to use a symbolic link and see if that works.

 

HaHa. M$ will have full control. C: drive is under constant monitoring by telemetry. All other disk can be unplugged. And M$ Morons will ensure that telemetry can access your gaming library all time. So they can offer promotions, tailored to fit you, LOL

 

We need to march out the Windows 10 development team out onto the lawn at the Redmond campus, tie them all down face up, spread eagle, and smack them with a five iron in their private parts. That's the least we can do to show them how much we appreciate the crappy OS they have worked so hard to bring us.

I'm guessing GoW4 needs to be on the OS drive so they can monitor it and force feed a steady diet of updates to it without anyone's permission.

 

Didn't try to install to another drive but I got an error code when first trying to download the game. Had to reset the Windows store and do a bunch of other things, most of which didn't work. Eventually I got it to download. But it took a lot of troubleshooting.

If a symlink doesn't work, I will not be surprised at all. I've experimented with "Storage Spaces" as well, to some degree of success. They are just really slow to be recognized on reconnects. Steam had to be closed until my storage space was fully loaded.