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    Geforce 347.25 driver released (WHQL)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Cloudfire

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    NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL

    http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-347-25-whql-driver-released


    [​IMG]
     
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    Man I hope this finally enables MFAA for my 970Ms. :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015
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    Brilliant finally something new to test out. Hope this fixes performance and throttling issues! :thumbsup:
     
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    342MB??? Thats new :D
     
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    Does this still disable overclocking on maxwell mobile?
     
    derkeysersoze, Jan 22, 2015
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    Is overclocking still disabled?
     
    Cammac66, Jan 22, 2015
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    Tested on gtx980m sli, NO MFAA & NO overclocking...
     
    kantana, Jan 22, 2015
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    Ok great... Looks like we're going to be stuck on 344.75 for a while.. or 344.91.. Really NVIDIA get your act together!!!
     
    TomJGX, Jan 22, 2015
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    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015
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    Starting to feel like a second class citizen of Nvidia now. So many features that desktop cards get yet barred from mobile users...
     
    kantana, Jan 22, 2015
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    MFAA is very important too. Bring much appriciated gains.
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015
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    Works fine on a single 980m.
     
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    So not worth wasting my time if they can't overclock - Nvidia needs to be b#tch slapped. I'm still a little curious to see if there are any gain at stock.


    OCing?
     
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    Have it been censored? :(
    EDIT: Yup, all my posts are censored. I guess its because I used 10minute mail lol

    [​IMG]
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015
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    With my GTX970m (Asus G751), there is MFAA i think:
    [​IMG]
     
    BigDRim, Jan 22, 2015
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    This driver???
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015
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    Yes 347.25
    Do you think i should enable it?
     
    BigDRim, Jan 22, 2015
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    I've got this in 344.75... I can confirm that my 970M has the MFAA option shown above in 344.75..
     
    TomJGX, Jan 22, 2015
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    And now on Geforce Experience there is an option for MFAA with optimized settings.
     
    BigDRim, Jan 22, 2015
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    Must not be driver related... I'm willing to bet MFAA was in a GeForce Experience update.
     
    D2 Ultima, Jan 22, 2015
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    Nope, GFE only adds new game profiles or new/updated SLI, AA, and AO flags for existing profiles. It doesn't add new features or optimizations that you couldn't edit yourself via Nvidia Inspector. Those are added with new drivers, not profile updates.

    For 900M owners not seeing MFAA in the Nvidia Control Panel with this new driver, try looking around in Nvidia Inspector.
     
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    Yeah something is strange for people not seeing it.. It is officially part of 344.75 for GTX 970/980 and GTX970M/980M...
     
    TomJGX, Jan 22, 2015
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    There is got to be something related to SLI. I think nobody using Alienware (with SLI) got MFAA. I asked yesterday and they complained about mobile always having to wait so long.

    I can`t even optimize games with Geforce Experience because my GTX 970Ms doesnt pass the criteria test. I have no idea why :confused:
     
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    No MFAA



    Geforce Experience not accepted
     
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    I noticed the driver itself although just released today, tries to install an older version of GeForce Experience, hence, I unchecked it from the custom installed then installed the latest GeForce Experience 2.2.2.0

    Did you try that?

    On my 780GTX SLI, GeForce Experience game optimizations worked but I don't see anything about MFAA either. weird
     
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    I'm shocked Nvidia really want to go down this path. Yes some people have a valid point when you say you shouldn't really overclock a laptop, but many Laptops work perfectly with mild and even massive overclocks and the whole purpose of the big thick chassis are to keep the GPU perfectly cool at these higher loads.

    If I want to do something with a product that I purchased why am I not allowed to do so? And when I purchased the product the feature was enabled why remove it. I just don't get the plus side for Nvida, it will annoy nearly all the enthusiast like us, give the general public less headroom to do a light overclock and reduce the usefulness of gaming laptops life span and give them a bad name. The plus points are people wont fry the GPU but they locked out voltage control anyway so you really have to try with the way it was setup. People like Asus even market the laptop as a overclockers laptop.

    If its a bug that's fine just tell us Nvidia, if they've done it intentionally that's still a bad move but at least they should tell us so we know where we stand. Please stop leaving us in the dark Nvidia its been too long.

    I posted this on the GeForce forums to try and get a response from Nvidia: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ers/gtx-900m-overclocking-with-347-09-347-25/
     
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    I can try that now.
    Downloading this driver right now. Will check Custom installation, do a clean install, and uncheck Geforce experience and install from your link?
    I have Geforce Experience 2.1.5.0 installed now it seems
     
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    yes please report back, and you have the old GeForce experience probably because you chose express setup, I never choose Express, ever, there's always an update for GeForce experience
     
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    I have figured out something. SLI doesnt support MFAA :(

    SLI enabled


    SLI disabled



    The good thing is that Geforce Experience 2.2.2.0 accepts SLI 970M (thanks Ferris) :)
     
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    Not sure I want MFAA on my GTX 780M if it is supported anyway after reading this:

     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 22, 2015
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    Thanks for confirming. Stupid nVIDIA Drivers as usual, if anything it would be much easier for an SLI setup to handle MFAA FFS! and they disable it for SLI! not gonna bother, if you have an SLI setup just stick to FXAA I guess
     
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    I figured as much when I read that MFAA blends data from multiple frames (hence the name Multi- Frame Anti- Aliasing). So just like SMAA T2x, SLI may never support it since different GPUs can't access each other's data fast enough when rendering in AFR. Nvidia, got any other great hardware AA methods you wanna throw at us? Next!
     
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    Update: I disabled SLI mode and still no MFAA for the 780M GTX, guess it's not supported :(

    On a side note, I no longer get Event ID 14 errors upon ever restart. Seems like nVIDIA fixed their crappy drivers (this issue has been plaguing the nVIDIA drivers for more than a year now)
     
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    No problem, helpful for everyone.
    MFAA would undoubtful be great for SLI yes. Especially mine since it takes less power to run the games at 60FPS which would reduce heat and again could help my problem with hwinfo and Alienware 18 and 970M SLI :)

    I guess we will just have to wait.
     
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    Only Maxwell 2 (900 and 900M cards) has the required hardware for MFAA.
     
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    I want to try out DSR (Dynamic super resolution) but sadly Lords of The Fallen doesnt support it. Oh well, it looks good maxed out anyway :)

    Is there really something special about 900M cards vs 780M that only allows 900M cards to run it?
    Nvidia could probably have added support for it if they really wanted, but got to dingle some carrot in front of us to sell more 900M cards I guess. (as if the performance wasnt enough lol)
    I`d very much like to see SLI support it though.

    Never heard about it before. Great that its finally fixed :)
     
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    Is DSR even supported on mobile GPUs yet? Your Nvidia Control Panel screenshots didn't have it.
     
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    I really dont know. Its the first game Im trying with my 970Ms.

    I think you need to use Geforce Experience and optimize the game before it shows. From Geforce.com
     
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    You are right. A quick googling seems to point out that 900M doesnt support it yet.
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2015
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    The DSR Factors and Smoothness settings are supposed to be in the Nvidia Control Panel if DSR is supported. Go take a look, I'm betting it doesn't work on mobile GPUs yet.
     
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    Shouldn't GFE automatically update separately if there's a newer version? Mine always does regardless of driver updates. I would think if the newer version was meant to be used it would update after the old version installed.

    It is odd they would bundle an out of date GFE though.
     
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    Nope, MFAA isn't happening on non-Maxwell 2, and probably not on SLI either due to the frame coherency issue I mentioned earlier that also prevents temporal AA like SMAA T2x from working.

    AnandTech | The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Review: Maxwell Mark 2

     
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    Finished drivers go through weeks of testing and validation before they are released. WHQL certification drags that out even longer. That's why when you look up the branch info of any driver, it's usually dated several weeks before its release date. It's entirely plausible that a new version of GFE was released in that time frame.
     
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    i wonder if a 980M is still playable with the new drivers?
     
    thegh0sts, Jan 22, 2015
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    MFAA can be turned on in nividia inspector the entire time... way back to 344.75...
     
    heibk201, Jan 22, 2015
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    I have MFAA option since 344.00, nothing new there.
     
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    This is true, but remember TXAA manages a temporal filter. It might happen in the future; who knows. Maybe it's reserved for DX12? Mantle apparently allows AMD to avoid using AFR style multiGPU methods; if this happens with DX12 as well, then it could be a requirement for SLI MFAA.
     
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