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    Geforce 9700m Gt question

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by tfccs, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. tfccs

    tfccs Newbie

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    I have an Asus G50v. The problem I'm having is it stutters during gaming. Is it bad drivers (I'm using Nvidias), instead of using the factory ones or using Asus drivers, but I was having the same problem with Asus. I looked at Nvidias ntune and there is a category called "Tune" on it where the card itself would do a "coarse tuning" and would take 20 min to complete. Could that be the problem, or is it driver related. :confused:
     
  2. Cobra03

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    What games are you playing? Do you have the card overclocked?
     
  3. Kevin

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    Along with the above:

    - What games, at what resolution and settings?
    - What driver are you using?
    - Have you run FRAPS to see what your framerates are?
    - Have you run HWMonitor while gaming, do check your temps?
     
  4. sean473

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    i'm quite sure ur overheating... but first check ur in game temps with CPUID Hardware monitor...
     
  5. tfccs

    tfccs Newbie

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    I usually play Dod Sourse, TFC 2, or WOW. I am using a cooler under laptop, but its a lil smaller than laptop itself. Heres the CPUID info after DOD:S after around 10 minutes of play. Wow its long......any help or info would be greatly appreciated
    CPUID HWMonitor Report
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    Binaries
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    HWMonitor version 1.1.5.0

    Monitoring
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Mainboard Model G50V (0x00000102 - 0x000027B0)

    LPCIO
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hardware Monitors
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    Hardware monitor ACPI
    Temperature 0 70°C (158°F) [0xD68] (THRM)

    Hardware monitor Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5750
    Temperature 0 71°C (159°F) [0xE] (Core #0)
    Temperature 1 69°C (156°F) [0x10] (Core #1)

    Hardware monitor NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GT
    Temperature 0 101°C (213°F) (GPU Core)

    Hardware monitor ST920042 0AS
    Temperature 0 44°C (111°F) [0x2C] (Assembly)
    Temperature 2 44°C (111°F) [0x2C] (Air Flow)

    Hardware monitor Battery 1
    Voltage 0 12.47 Volts [0x30B7] (Current Voltage)
    Capacity 0 51260 mWh [0xC83C] (Designed Capacity)
    Capacity 1 47443 mWh [0xB953] (Full Charge Capacity)
    Capacity 2 47443 mWh [0xB953] (Current Capacity)
    Level 0 7 pc [0x5C] (Wear Level)
    Level 1 100 pc [0x64] (Charge Level)


    Processors
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    Number of processors 1
    Number of threads 2

    APICs
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    Processor 0
    -- Core 0
    -- Thread 0 0
    -- Core 1
    -- Thread 0 1

    Processors Information
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    Processor 1 ID = 0
    Number of cores 2 (max 2)
    Number of threads 2 (max 2)
    Name Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T5750
    Codename Merom
    Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz
    Package (platform ID) Socket P (478) (0x7)
    CPUID 6.F.D
    Extended CPUID 6.F
    Core Stepping M0
    Technology 65 nm
    Core Speed 1995.0 MHz
    Multiplier x FSB 12.0 x 166.2 MHz
    Rated Bus speed 665.0 MHz
    Stock frequency 2000 MHz
    Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
    L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control yes
    FID range 6.0x - 12.0x
    Max VID 1.250 V


    Graphic APIs
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    API NVIDIA NVAPI
    API NVIDIA I/O

    Display Adapters
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    Display adapter 0
    Manuf. API index 0
    Display name \\.\DISPLAY4
    Name NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GT
    Revision A1
    Codename G96
    Technology 65 nm
    PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
    Vendor ID 0x10DE (0x1043)
    Model ID 0x064A (0x19A2)
     
  6. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yikes - that could be a problem. The graphics card is running way too hot.

    Could you define 'stuttering' for us? Does the game run fine for a period of time and then get choppy, and repeat the cycle? If so, that would be an indication of overheating.

    What you should do regardless is clean out your fans. Get some canned air and blow it in the vents and fan openings to get rid of dust.

    BTW - I edited your post and took out a lot of that useless info (your post was insanely long ;)).
     
  7. tfccs

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    I would play Dod:S for a while and my fps would go from 85 to 10 and stay there solid. I Would continue to run around and it would go back up to normal fps. It happens on and off but would always jump down to 10 fps. As far as the air goes, I'll head on over to Best Buy tomorrow and get me a can. Hopefully thats the problem I really love this laptop. Thx for editing the post :D
     
  8. Amnesiac

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    It doesn't seem to be deleted... :confused:
     
  9. tfccs

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    I cleaned the fan with air and the temperature stood at 78, don't know its thats to hot but its a whole lot better than 101. The card in the laptop being a pci-e card does this mean I can upgrade it?
     
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    You should see much better performance now. It was clearly your card throttling to protect itself from the heat.
     
  12. tfccs

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    Thx for all the info and help. I just tried Orthos, ran it for 11 min and it didn't overheat. So I decided to play some Dod:S, played it for around 15 min. Max heat on vid was 76 and on cpu was 64. I've had the heat issues for almost 3 days now. Should I do the undervolting even if it not overheating?
     
  13. Amnesiac

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    Since 76C is actually pretty good for a 9700M GTS, I wouldn't bother at this point personally, however, if you'd like to see it cooler, then by all means go ahead.
     
  14. Kevin

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    Nah those are great temps. You have nothing else to worry about.
     
  15. Deks

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    Indeed ... I was actually going to suggest cleaning out the laptop from dust and all.

    Lol ...
    The temps you are getting (76 for gpu and 64 for the cpu) are great.

    If you want, you can look into undervolting your GPU which should further reduce it's temperatures by about 10 to 15 degrees.

    I have a 9600m GT GDDR3.
    It's actually (factory) underclocked 9700m GT gpu.
    Identical specs in every fashion, apart from the clock speeds.

    I undervolted my GPU to 0.89V and increased the clocks to 9700m GT (your) stock levels (via Nvidia Control Panel).

    I think you can BIOS flash your gpu to 0.89V the same way I did and get those temps even lower.
    ;-)
     
  16. sean473

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    Yup , It might be a good idea to clean out ur fans and undervolt ur GPU but undervolting might brick ur card so its quite dangerous... Also it might be a better idea to upgrade ur CPU to something better... might make ur computer feel faster and the 45nm one should run cooler...
     
  17. Sonicjet

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    Hey....I have an 9800m GS....oh wait....Mine! mwa ha ha,lol.
    But seriously I am impressed by the temps of the 9700m GT,My system reaches ~89C during an hardcore game of Hawx,and I just cleaned it out and have an new nice cooler,in fact...I have an question,What kind of battery life do you get?
     
  18. Deks

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    Granted, GPU BIOS flashing doesn't come without risks, however, if the instructions are followed properly, then there won't be any issues.

    Certainly I never experienced them, and that was wit me doing a BIOS gpu flashing via a DOS bootable stick for the first time.

    Make a backup bios so you can reflash it to standard if something goes wrong, and follow the instructions.
     
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