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    Go 7400 256MB on new XPS M1210

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HokkaidoHillbilly, May 30, 2006.

  1. HokkaidoHillbilly

    HokkaidoHillbilly Notebook Geek

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    I realize that this system isn't even out in the US yet, but I thought I'd still go ahead & ask you guys for your opinion.

    One of the options available on the new XPS M1210 is, according to the Dell Japan website a "GeForce Go 7400 256MB DDR Turbocache/Intel 945PM Express Chipset." The kicker is that according to the Japanese, this card uses up to 192MB from main memory, making it in effect, a 64MB card, right?

    With this in mind, is it still even in the same league as other Go 7400 cards?

    Thanks in advance for any and all advice!



    HH ;)
     
  2. cycloneguy2618

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    Well I would think that other 64MB 7400's would be in the same league. But the 128MB and up, then not quite as good.
     
  3. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    i dont consider that in the same league no.

    games are already on the shelf that require 128 mb, so it is already obsolete in its announcment stage

    7400 is impressive though. i suppose it still beats anything its size but im not positive of that.
     
  4. otaku

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    Yes for a 12in that is a very nice card usually you get dedicated. The 7400 is also used in larger notebooks than this.
     
  5. Notebook Solutions

    Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer

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    Go for the X1400 in the M1210! It is 128-bit, while Go7400 is 64-bit. So the X1400 is much better, you can also see that in the scores.

    Charlie-Peru :)
     
  6. HokkaidoHillbilly

    HokkaidoHillbilly Notebook Geek

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    Ahhh...but aye, there's the rub. At the current moment, the M1210 is only offered w/ the crippled 7400 or Intel integrated graphics. If it came w/ an X1400 I don't think Dell'd be able to keep 'em in stock.

    Also, to Stamar: If you've got enough RAM in the thing...say 2 gigs or so...you're still getting 256MB overall for graphics and have 1.8GB left over for everything else, so is it really gonna make that much of a difference?
     
  7. Leo_s84

    Leo_s84 Notebook Geek

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    First of all, the "TurboCache" only takes ram when needed.
    Second, it will never need 192 MB of your ram, cause quite franlky, it's not that powerful to take advantage of it, just like the x1400 doesnt need the extra 128 MB's of ram.
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    Turbocache technology sounds good on paper until you start looking at the scores. A 512 card with turbocache will never reach the level of a 512 dedicated card. If it did, everyone would use turbocache cards and a bunch of RAM, because, let's face it, with notebooks at least, it's much easier to upgrade the RAM than the GPU. Still, it's a good alternative if you're on a budget.
     
  9. amuraivel

    amuraivel Notebook Consultant

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    I hate Dell computers,

    but X1400 + duo + 12" @ 1280x800 = 2000USD sale
     
  10. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    That's right amuraivel. All comes down to sales. .

    I wouldn't touch a 64MB video card for any modern gaming, but the TurboCache feature actually isn't half bad and works good. Probably would be close to a dedicated 128MB Go7400 in performance. 64MB of dedicated is disappointing though. An X1400 option in a 12" form factor would be spectacular.
     
  11. stamar

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    the key here is not the amount of ram its taking up bringing performance down, although youre right I think the machine actually having less than 2gb ram possible as making it obsolete within a few years as well.

    the fact is, once the textures overtake the 64 mb its running the texture through the pci e bus to ram. I mean, its integrated graphics.

    integrated graphics keep getting better, I mean now they are going through pcie as opposed to last generations agp. and ram is faster now to0. cpus are faster too.
    its still crap. too slow to function at a speed necessary for a fast paced game. fine for something like the sims or something but not for fear.

    hypermemory is just the new name for the same stuff that was in agp cards.
     
  12. DrewN

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