Gtx 660m

Yeah i never said its from me and yes that's with a good OC...

I wont downclock my GPU however just to show i get 8200 stock so i guess we just have to agree to disagree

 

The 675m has been confirmed.

 

yea a while ago, Nvidia's Upcoming GeForce 600M-Series GPUs Get Detailed ? Report - Softpedia



so, the 635m is a rebadged 555m and the gtx 660m is a better (should be) performer than the gtx 560m, that is a humungous jump

 

560m is a 192-bit bus, yet 660m is 128-bit? Doesn't sound too promising.

 

because you will never get it, as simple as that...

 

yupp, that is what I am saying, why everybody seems to believe everything before the actual release is interesting..

guys these are just rumors, like diablo 3 release date..

660m will be a 192 bit card for sure for example, and I am not sure definitely but, I don't think it will be a miracle come true in terms of performance either, after all still even laptops with 460m are selling like crazy, why should they push the performance to the point that it will cost 1.5 times the previous card? it is the entry level card in GTX family after all..

AND one last thing, if lenova is putting some GPU in their system, it won't be a game cracker...

 

Well here is the proof as you see 8220 on all stock settings and clocks





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as impressive as it still is (congratz, you have a miracle 5850m) this is still 7.5k on GPU score, definitely we are not talking about your CPU boosting your vantage...

 

Yes thats true but i never said anything about stock GPU score.

I said i get 8200 3dmark stock on my 5850 with a old Q740 cpu and it would be strange if a 660 from nvidia with a newer CPU would only get 10k stock

 

It's likely nvidia have improved their memory controllers so we could see memory speed improvements.

 

I am still talking about the GPU score, and I think it will get 10k, anyway, you have a nice 5850m there hold onto that

 

Well we just have to wait and see

I sure wont upgrade to it anyway seeing that overclocked 900/1100 i get 10250 in vantage and its stable enough for gaming. SO il defiantly hold on to my 5850 for a while longer

 

There was another table of upcoming GPU somewhere floating on the interwebz and it claimed that a 4GB 680m GTX could score over 20k in Vantage. We'll have to wait and see. As you can see in my sig, my rig already does that but the GPU score is "only" 18k and definitely not gaming stable.

 

I remember that article, you posted it right widezu? or somebody else? 20k vantage would be ridiculously good, it would max everything as a breeze

 

Screw 660M. Asus will have a new notebook of the G-series, G75, which will have GTX 670M. Launch in April

Asus 'Ivy Bridge' notebooks with Nvidia "Kepler" in April

 

Asus must change their design, it is a 15" laptop BIGGER than m17x (NO KIDDING, my m17x fits the bag g53sw cannot...), even they put gtx 780m to their laptop (yes not 680m ) I wouldn't buy it...

anyway that article doesn't mention anything except for rumors, I think they will put 660m, however if they put 670m, they will go from mainstream to enthusiasist level, which is not their customer.. but a lot of people will be happy I am sure

 

It certainly possible Asus could put out a toplevel machine.

The first G73's with 5870 were top tier at the time.

 

definitely, ASUS can put out any machine they want, one of the richest pc manufacturer after all... but would they profit from as much as they are profiting from the current g series, after all a TON of people buy even g53sw right now, forget about sx

 

Yeah I know, their laptops are HUUUGE. G74SX was a beast in comparison to my 17" from MSI.

It is not rumours though. G75 will have GTX 670M. Here is a quote from the translated article (source)

http://translate.google.no/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2Fnews%2F2012-01%2Fasus-ivy-bridge-notebooks-mit-nvidias-kepler-ab-april%2F

The flagship is of course their G-series. Asus got some hard competition from MSI this year. MSI had GTX 570M and now GTX 580M, while G74SX only have the 560M. A lot of fans have complained and that combined with potensial customers buying GT780 from MSI instead must have opened their eyes. Of course this is just me guessing but I know people have complained to Asus due to the disgrace of the "Gamers republic" Asus is boasting. So I, in my humble opinion, thinks that there is very high probability that Asus will have this GPU

 

definitely what you say makes perfect sense, I know it will make crowds happy, but will it be around the similar price range, I mean the friendly 1k, or will it be 1.5k, we'll see

 

I with Gateway was still putting out cheap gaming notebooks. 670m for a cool $1k, anyone?

 

Asus laptops are def too big and without the top vid cards too if they make them smaller with better vid card i would buy one. Even MSI laptops are too big but at least they eventually(little late) included the 580m. Clevo laptops are the smallest of the 3 and for sure they will have the option for a gtx 680m. An overclocked 680m should reach 25k on vantage.

I just hope they release the 680m earlier in the year.

Even samsung will be including a gtx 670m in their series 7 gamer

http://www.pcworld.com/article/247979/samsung_to_bring_series_7_gamer_to_the_us_with_upgrades.html

 

I'll just wait and see. This happens every single tech refresh, and 75% of the time it's full of false promises.

 

It's all looking quite interesting! I'm not so sure on the manufacturers claims, only time will tell. Once some actual user benchmarks start coming out, then I'll believe.

Still, I do believe we're seeing GPU evolution taking place. Not just a re-hash of current models. I'm quite excited for what's coming out, I'll hold onto the Envy 15 for a bit longer now, and hold off buying a Clevo P150HM till I know whats going on with these updates.

 

yeah, and wait for the new clevo model with backlit keyboards too!

 

The only thing which matters in Vantage is GPU scores. All of this discussion pertaining to overall P scores is gross.

You'd have to be crazy to believe the score of 14k posted in the OP is the graphics score. It took 256-bit, 384 shaders, and decent clocks for the 580M to even hit 13k.

 

Just a tip, notebookcheck usually reviews notebooks early in their release.

Once those notebooks have had a few driver releases, and the techs have had time to tweak them, their scores are usually notably higher. (This is especially true of NVIDIA cards before an official driver release for that GPU model.)

This doesn't make notebookcheck unreliable... you just have to understand where their numbers are coming from.

As for the GTX 660m and the memory interface... who knows. The 560m has a 128-bit variant... the 660m could too. People tend to put too much emphasis on the memory interface. You just need enough to not bottle-neck. Very fast memory on a 128-bit bus can give enough bandwidth to make it not matter.

As for NVIDIA's naming scheme... I honestly think it has more to do with randomly throwing darts at a dartboard than any aversion to the number 666.

 

1ghz 128bit = 667Mhz 192bit ram.

That would give it 90% of the bandwidth of the 570M.

 

People salty about how fast technology moves forward.

Now you can get like Alienware M17x performance in a 15 inch laptop lol

I'm sort of salty too actually

 

grrrr!! need!!
Thing is it's still going to kinda suck without new battery tech :<

 

Really? It will probably support optimus so the run time is likely large.

If you mean gaming while on the go then by all means but it will need to be a 1500Wh battery (we are at around 80 now for a good size) to get 10 hours of gaming.

 

Not going to happen on a 15.6" laptop.

It's going to be a GT 650M with GTX 660M being optional or never arriving like the promised Y570P 3D models at CES 2011.

 

We have 15.6" models with the GTX580m....

 

That MSI SKU only just came out like 24 days ago .

 

And the clevo/sager machines have been out longer, your point?

We now have several 15.6" platforms capable of using 100W GPUs, now you can just slot in any high end GPU into that platform.

 

Not with Lenovo you don't, Lenovo has yet to enter the gaming laptop market.

Anyhow, I just found out the GTX 660M is 50W TDP so very high chance that it'll be delivered as promised but only on 3D models and possibly with mSATA SSD.

This should put the Y580's GTX 660M as fast as last gen GTX 560M, very crazy indeed but this is happening with all high end 600M series cards eg. ASUS G75 is getting a GTX 670M (70W TDP) which equals a last gen GTX 580M.

 

np8150 supports 580m for about 7 months

 

Where'd you get this TDP info?

 

on semi accurate leaked specs. But they are probably fake...

 

I can't find the link but the chart for 600M series TDP is found online.

GTX 470M is 70W to 75W but I'm thinking 70W for the GTX 470M and 75W (80W) for the GTX 475M.

I highly doubt they are fake, remember the infamous HD 4850 55nm desktop card with 114W TDP, the HD 4770 is basically the same card (10% slower) in the same HD 4000 series, 40nm and 80W TDP thus leading me to a conclusion that the GTX 670M is a GTX 580M with 70W TDP (might be a bit slower 10%) and a GTX 660M is a GTX 560M with 50W TDP (again, might be a bit slower 10%).

And BTW, the HD 4770 was the first 40nm Radeon card available and overclocks like a beast (beats the best overclocked HD 4850) so plain and simple a max overclocked GTX 670M will beat a maxed overclocked GTX 580M and same goes for the GTX 660M vs GTX 560M.

 

the question here is, what is the 650m for a card?

Now if its as powerful or even more powerful than a 555m this would be great!

But looking at this

Code:

   
GTX 680M (N13E-GTX, 256 Bit)
GTX 675M (N13E-GS1, 256 Bit)
GTX 670M (N13E-GS1-LP, 192 Bit)
GTX 660M (N13E-GE, 128 Bit)
GT 635M (N13E-GE2, 128 Bit)
GT 650M (N13P-GT, 128 Bit)
GT 640M (N13P-GS, 128 Bit)
GT 640M LE (N13P-LP, 128 Bit)
GT 630M (N13P-GL/GL2, 128 Bit)
GT 630M (N13P-GV, 64 Bit)
GT 620M (N13P-GLP, 128 Bit)
GT 620M (N13M-GS, 64 Bit)
610M (N13M-GE, 64 Bit)

The 650m with the name N13 P-GT, 128 Bit falls into the mobile Perfomance category, while the 635m (which is already released and out there in the asus n55 and jay chou mystic special edition) falls into the N13 E-GE2 Enthusiast category, even though it is a basic rebrand of the 40nm 555m and a new core (GF116 instead of GF106)..

So the 650m could really be a downgrade or maybe its like the previous 550m, a castrated 555m

Also, according to the code name, the GTX 660M (N13E-GE, 128 Bit) seems to be the followup of the GT 635M (N13E-GE2, 128 Bit)

What we can do is only wait

EDIT: BTW there are many sites who have the codenames for example this one

http://www.computerbase.de/news/2011-11/details-zu-anstehenden-28-nm-grafikloesungen-von-nvidia/

and if you check this out

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-635M.66964.0.html

You see that the codename is being used for that card

But in the end this is all just pure speculation

 

Here are the charts

 

Thank you cloudfire, I have been looking for them

 

The gtx 660m looks weak-ish (128-bit).
It's behind gtx 560m (192-bit).

Or is this infamous naming scheme of theirs that messes up the numbers (yet again)?

Bah... what about the architecture and core counts? Is there a performance difference, or what?

 

Nvidia could well have sorted out their mem controllers this cycle so we may see 1Ghz memory clocks. This would offset the more narrow bus.

 

But it still shows just how cheap Nvidia is.
They could have at least put the 660m with same specs like 560M and uprate the RAM speeds (and if the architecture is new, then clock/clock ratio would be higher by default along with more cores).

I mean, wasn't the point of this to go FORWARD?
Realistically speaking, the GTX 660M should be BETTER than GTX 560M... and not be handicapped in certain areas.
If it's just uprated in some aspects and overall performance is slightly above 560M or the same, then it's nothing more than yet another stupid refresh.

 

Well since we have no idea about the performance then you can't really say that.

The X700 had very similar core performance to the 9800pro, but had half the memory bus yet still was very similar because it used that bandwidth better.

Having a faster but narrower bus lets designs be used in smaller machines (it uses less power, less PCB layers, less memory chips, less power circuitry, cheaper to make).

The 560M is not bandwidth starved, if they have improved efficiency and got faster controllers it should not limit a faster core, look at the 570M, there is still much performance to be had a that bandwidth level that a narrower but faster bus supplies.

 

Why would the 650m be slower than the 635m?

 

We know those charts are at least partly false because of the dates btw lol.

 

And what would be the difference between a 675m and a 680m?