The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Gtx470m Mxm Stack @very Low Frequency

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by avi_tam, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Upgrading from QFX880M to
    NVIDIA GTX470M MXM on XP shows very low frequencies even upon heavy graphics applications.Same situation on win7.
    Driver used 266.58_notebook_winxp_32bit
     
    avi_tam, Sep 14, 2011
    #1
  2. svl7

    svl7 T|I

    Reputations:
    4,719
    Messages:
    3,758
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    131
    The Quadro FX 880m is a Type A card which has half the TDP of a 470m, the 470m has a significantly higher power draw, it might be possible that there's simply not enough power supplied by the mobo / PSU.

    The other option is a incompatibility regarding the BIOS/VBIOS, I had an issue with a 470m in my M15x, it needed a slight VBIOS modification to make it run at 3d speeds.
    Can you make a GPU-Z log or at least tell what clocks the card uses?
     
    svl7, Sep 14, 2011
    #2
  3. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thank you GPU Core clock 50.6MHz GPU Memory Clock 67.5MHz GPU Shader clock 101MHz
     

    Attached Files:

    avi_tam, Sep 15, 2011
    #3
  4. svl7

    svl7 T|I

    Reputations:
    4,719
    Messages:
    3,758
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Ok, that's really only the 2d clocks. Does it ever clock up to like 73MHz on the core when you open a programm or watch a movie?
     
    svl7, Sep 15, 2011
    #4
  5. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Yes it becomes 73.6ghz upon 3D SIMPLE TEST of Passmark moving balls
     
    avi_tam, Sep 15, 2011
    #5
  6. svl7

    svl7 T|I

    Reputations:
    4,719
    Messages:
    3,758
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Ok, that's cool. Clevo is the only manufacturer which ever had the 470m, so I guess my VBIOS copy should work for you as well. Check out the "Gtx 470m in the M15x" link in my signature, there you can find a modified VBIOS and all necessary instructions to flash it, your problem seems very similar to the issues I experienced, so chances are that it works with the modded VBIOS, though I can't guarantee it.
    There's still the possibility that it's simply a power issue. And in case it works make sure your cooling system is sufficient... 35W TPD vs 75W isn't negligible.
     
    svl7, Sep 15, 2011
    #6
  7. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I mean 73.6MHZ
     
    avi_tam, Sep 15, 2011
    #7
  8. svl7

    svl7 T|I

    Reputations:
    4,719
    Messages:
    3,758
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Yeah... guessed so, hahaha. Let me know when you flashed the VBIOS.
     
    svl7, Sep 15, 2011
    #8
  9. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    It seems to work good now. Thank you!
    Still checking benchmarks such as 3D MARK 05.
    Getting 13,000 expecting 26,000 (resolution dependent?).
    Checking also 2D performance.
     
    avi_tam, Sep 19, 2011
    #9
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,436
    Messages:
    58,194
    Likes Received:
    17,902
    Trophy Points:
    931
    3dmark 05?

    What?

    I thought people stopped using that 5 years ago?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 19, 2011
    #10
  11. svl7

    svl7 T|I

    Reputations:
    4,719
    Messages:
    3,758
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Can you run at 3d Mark Vantage? You should get about P9000 GPU score with my VBIOS.
     
    svl7, Sep 19, 2011
    #11
  12. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

    Reputations:
    791
    Messages:
    3,210
    Likes Received:
    231
    Trophy Points:
    131
    well, he also mentioned XP, and the Quattro card, so I assume this is a converted business machine that still runs XP?
     
    jeremyshaw, Sep 19, 2011
    #12
  13. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    xp: 3D simple Moving Balls before:139fps after:896fps win7:1900fps (hotter)

    xp: 2D All Before:587 After: 643 win7:333


    xp: SpecViewPerf10 MAYA Before: 6.51 After: 21.69 (FX880M scored 59)
    xp: SpecViewPerf10 ProE Before: 5.85 After: 10.25 (FX880M scored 40)
     
    avi_tam, Sep 20, 2011
    #13
  14. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

    Reputations:
    1,748
    Messages:
    4,094
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Holy crap!! You upgraded your Elitebook 8540w, right??

    Can you take pictures of this?? Freaking awesome, congratulations on it working!!

    Since no one has mentioned, the way you have this set up could be pretty dangerous for your laptop, if you don't have at least a 120w charger. And, the vRAM is probably really hot, along with the power components.

    You should definitely be checking the temps with GPUz or such.

    FYI, there are gtx 470m not manufactured by Clevo, I have one.
     
    niffcreature, Sep 21, 2011
    #14
  15. avi_tam

    avi_tam Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    win 7 p7077
    win 7 1900fps balls
    win xp 723fps balls
     
    avi_tam, Sep 26, 2011
    #15