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    HD 4400: i7-4500 worth it?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by isthisfunforyou, Sep 28, 2013.

  1. isthisfunforyou

    isthisfunforyou Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello Forum,

    I'm buying a new laptop that comes with HD 4400 graphics. I'm interested in some light gaming ( Grim Dawn) and I do some light CAD/Solid Works design.

    I'm deciding on the i5 or i7 and found this information:

    Clock speeds
    Core i5-4200U (15 W, 3 MB L3): 200 - 1000 MHz
    Core i7-4500U (15 W, 4 MB L3): 200 - 1100 MHz

    Can someone explain to me if the 4 MB L3 vs is 3 MB is worth the money? :confused: If it matters, the laptop will have 8 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD.

    I'd like to keep my next laptop for 4-5 years and don't mind spending +$150 if it's going to make a difference/lead to less frustrations. But if it doesn't matter, saving the money is nice.

    Thanks in advance. :)
     
  2. sasuke256

    sasuke256 Notebook Deity

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    why going with ULV CPU's ? you should try to find a machine with "Normal" i7/i5 cpu means no ix-4XXXU but ix-4XXXM series..
    More frenquency and way more performances..
     
  3. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    there are currently no more normal voltage cpus from intel aside the quads. well the dual cores never mattered since SB, the performance difference was around 10%

    best thing would be to find a i7 4702mq on a chassis that is thin and light, since you are already going for that anyway.

    4400 behaves much like the 4000 and the i7 has a bit higher clocks, there is nothing much to it
     
  4. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    i5-4200M, 4300M, and 4330M are 37W Haswell dual cores.
     
  5. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    That's not true. There's a handful of i5's and i3's that are dual core with hyperthreading 37W dual core CPU's.

    AnandTech | Introducing the Dual-Core Haswell SKUs

    [​IMG]

    edit: sniped by Kevin... :p
     
  6. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    none launched, none in products

    and from the looks they will only be available late october if at that

    but yeah I forgot about those
     
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    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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  9. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you are a party pooper, cats will be sent to your destination and pee on your clothes shall appear
     
  10. isthisfunforyou

    isthisfunforyou Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you for the responses. I've read A LOT of reviews (spending more hours than I care to admit), played with the major brands at Best Buy, and am quite sure about my choice. If you can show me a laptop that's ~3 lb, absolute max 3.5 lb., has 6+ hours video play back, and costs $1600 with a Quad core, I'm listening. It doesn't seem laptops that slim can handle the heat and drain the battery fast.

    My original question stands: will there be an appreciable difference between a 3 MB vs. 4 MB cash on HD 4400?

    Thanks.
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    There will be no appreciable difference between a 3MB or 4MB cache. That cache is for the CPU not the HD 4400 integrated GPU.

    And at 3lbs you're looking at an 11.6" to 13" notebook. At 3.5lbs you *might* find a 14".

    The standard voltage dual cores likely won't be out for a couple months, but may be worth the wait for the best $/performance.

    The Thinkpad X1 Carbon will likely fit your needs The HD 4400 won't be a whole lot faster than the HD 4000 in the current Ivy Bridge at least in the ULV chips. But the higher end i5/i7 Haswell will have the HD 4600 and run a little faster. Personally if you're in the market for such a machine and need half way decent GPU performance it's worth the wait IMHO.