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    HD Mobility 5870 or GTS 360M or GTX 285M?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by coolshanth, May 16, 2010.

  1. coolshanth

    coolshanth Newbie

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    My sights are set on 5870 HD, as its got DX11 and its from ATI, but it seems GTX 285M performs a bit better though.

    On a side note, I'm looking to buy the cheapest laptop possible with one of the above two cards (ignore GTS 360M), would it have any effect on my gaming if I went for i5 ~2.4GHz instead of i7 1.6GHz (2.8GHz TB+ 6MB L3 cache)?
     
  2. ernstig01

    ernstig01 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not convinced about the GTX 285M performs better than the 5870 HD. Do you have some prove about this?

    As for the CPU why you would opt for i7 720QM instead of an i7 620M. They're somewhat equal in price, but for gaming you really don't need a 4 core threads. There are almost no games which take advantage of it. In that case the i7 620M runs much faster cause of its higher clock speeds.

     
  3. fzhfzh

    fzhfzh Notebook Deity

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    GX740 is the cheapest you can get for a 5870MR.

    285M is only going to be faster if it's a physX heavy game, and make it very heavy.
     
  4. mew1838

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    No. G73 is the cheapest.
     
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    FXi Notebook Deity

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    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Nvidia has never sold anything at a fair price and they won't even be priced close enough to move ATI to lower prices. Just look at the desktop cards. Nvidia is going to count on consumers to buy their cards based solely on their name.

    Finding the strongest single GPU in a laptop for $1200 has never been done in Nvidia's history.
     
  7. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    the G73 is cheapest anyways and the X3 model with bing cashback is awesome deal... also 16GB RAM in G73 :D
     
  8. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have used both of those GPU's on my laptop and in GTA IV and Red Faction, I noticed much smoother performance and less stuttering with the GTX 285M vs the ATI 5870 (same settings).

    In all of the other games I tested I either noticed about the same performance or smoother gameplay with the Nvidia. I think this is simply down to more game engines being optimised for the Nvidia. I am actually staying with the GTX 285M and not using the ATI 5870.

    No matter what I tried, the GTX 285M still ran cooler and quieter than the ATI 5870 in the end but that is probably down to some issue with the heatsink that some experienced.

    Edit: Having used both, I can only recommend the GTX 285M, not the ATI 5870 at all.
     
  9. fzhfzh

    fzhfzh Notebook Deity

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    Buying a barebone MSI GX740 from RJtech and put in an i5 (or ES i7 from ebay) yourself is cheaper than G73.
     
  10. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    I think you have that backwards, there are almost no newer games that DON'T utilize quad core. Very few PC games these days don't come with quad+ core optimization, and actually show great benefits over a higher clocked dual.

    As for the GPU's, even if the GTX285m outperformed the MRHD5870, why would you want to be stuck with last gen hardware that doesn't support DX11 which games are already being released with, and with nice performance+visual benefits.
     
  11. Histidine

    Histidine Notebook Deity

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    Regardless of what games utilize more than 2 cores, according to benchmarks the i5-520m actually does better at multi-threaded tests than the i7-720qm. For the i7-620m, it should be no contest.

    Also, many (most?) games that do utilize multicore CPUs are very heavy on one or two cores, and only have light processing on the remaining cores. For this purpose, hyperthreading should be sufficient to make up any difference.

    But in any case, there are very few games that are CPU-dependent rather than GPU-dependent. So long as you have at least an i5, you will most likely be bottlenecked with your GPU, except in poorly-optimized console ports like GTA4 and physics-heavy simulations like Rigs of Rods ( oh my GOD is that CPU-heavy!).
     
  12. mew1838

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    Nope it's not. the $1199 BB version is hard to beat.