HD2600 and 8600m gt owners

NVIDIA USES DRIVER TAILORED FOR 3DMARK AS A SALES STUNT.

when comparing the hd2600 gddr3 to the gt gdd3 most will say the gt is better due to 3dmark scores, however what does that mean comparatively when the drivers are modified to suit the benchmark program..

My hd 2600 gets 4290 3dmarks stable with undervolting and overclocking
I have seen others get 6700 on the same settings using the 8600m gt ddr3

However when it comes to actual gaming the same guys with the ridiculous results perform at exactly if not less frame rates in games such as crysis bioshock cod4 ccs ect

heck my config for crysis is set resolution and set graphics, benchmark your 8600m gt with the config and tell me if you get more or less fps in the benchmark..

after finding out you get less, look at the photos i posted and see the avg fps in loop 2


I bet the 8600m gt overclocked to the max will not get higher framerates.
and then people can stop saying the 8600m gt is better...its more expensive and performs equally to the hd2600 in games...3dmark is irrelevent when using modified drivers from nvidia

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/23/nvidia-cheats-3dmark-177

the purpose of this thread to to give correct advertising, when people research a laptop they will often research the graphics card. When you can get a hd2600 laptop for only 800 bucks in canada...and a 8600m gt laptop for about 1200...the differance in rice is huge and the performance should be stated better..not simply by tweaked 3dmark scores

I almost spent the extra 300 thinking the 8600m gt was better, but thankfully I read up and found out they are equal in actaull game performance..nvm comparing it to the 8600mgs they are not even close

 

8600gt do not cost that much. Heck, they were selling those gateways with the 8800gts for under 1000, werent they? The 2600 is not better than the 8600, although they are very close.

 

Um ... the inquirer is not the most reliable source, that is an article for desktop drivers and I don't think it is $300 extra in difference ... I got my laptop for $940 with a 8600m GT. Yes the 8600m GT is better though ... almost every test will prove that.

The mobility 2600 is about the same as the 2600 Pro desktop graphics card . The 8600m GT GDDR3 is about the same as the desktop 8600 GT, so check out this article ... I think it should change your views a bit.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/radeon_hd_2600_performance_preview/page5.asp

 

I also believe the 8600m GT GDDR3 is better than the Mobility HD 2600 GDDR3.

Post your Crysis benchmarks and I'll run them at the same settings on my G1S to see what I get.

BTW: I bought my G1S December 31, 2007 for $920.

Below are links to gaming and 3DMark benchmarks for both cards:
8600m GT benchmarks| Mobility HD 2600 benchmarks

 

Also forgot to add in ... check out the official mobile graphics card page ...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=275056

 

are you guys trying to be dumb?

first off i mentioned 3dmark..it means nothing...real world performance matter not 3dmark
next thats US dollars i said canada...basically a 250 dollar diff..add tax here and thats about 300 like i said...

w ...t.....f u guys only prove its better with 3dmark and nvidias modded drivers..

do a crysis benchmark with my config and see if u get what the file says u should...then brag about it being better if not ...stop pretending your smart..it aint working out so well


and dude yea ill read that article..if i can see that the 8600m gt in real world perforamnce is better than i might upgrade...but nothings supports the dumb claim the gt is better..just the 3dmark junk that obviously is rigged

if a dude gets 3000 more 3dmarks than mine...that means at least with my cards upscaling..he should get about 10fps more in crysis...but lmao that just isnt true..they get the same results so prove it with my config that i made for the hd and gt...or shut it lol

 

also i checked that site...you guys are hilarious...ur comparing the desktop versions lmao...the 8600gt desktop is way faster dude just look on you tube...dudes playing very high...then check out 8600mgt dudes playing low/medium

 

Why didn't you read what I said ... I specifically stated that the 8600m GT was the same as the base 8600 GT desktop ... I checked out the specs for both THEY ARE THE SAME! Also if you check the specs on your 2600 it will be slightly higher than a desktop 2600 Pro but well under the XT specs. Besides, why would you upgrade from one midrange card to another, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Also ... I gave you the link to the mobile GPU page ... I will laugh when this thread is moved there or closed because it has already been debated by tons of people before you and you are pretty much just trying to prove something that is wrong.

 

well man good luck playing crysis very high dx10 on yours...quit dreaming

im giving u guys a reality check...it isnt a 8600gt or even close..ill post there specs

 

I guess they are comparable, both having 32 stream processors and being 128-bit. But as already mentioned by Prasad, the desktop card has better OC possibilities because desktop cooling is much more flexible than a laptop's. Plus, the desktop version already has higher clock rates to begin with.

 

The links I posted were to laptop/notebook GPU benchmarks.

Simply post a screenshot of your Crysis benchmark results, and I'll run one at the same settings to see what I get.

If you have posted photos, I can't view them for some reason.

 

DESKTOP VERSION

Core Clock: 540MHz
# of Stream Processors: 32
Mem Clock Speed: 700 MHz

LAPTOP VERSION

Core Clock: 475 MHz
# of Stream Processors: 32
Mem Clock: 700 MHz

They aren't exactly the same but they are pretty close.

 

o if u read the thread clearly for the 8600gt vs the 8600m gt u will notice they are not equal..lol thats coming from other gddr3 gt owners...not me

 

No kidding ... I just posted the specs but they aren't miles apart, the difference between the 8600m GT and the 8600 GT desktop is about the same as the difference between the 8600m GT and 8700m GT.

 

25watts vs 40watts...pretty close?????no man

im trying to compare the hd vs the gt...and yea man the desktop ver gt smokes both..not even close in real world performance

 

yea man but this thread isnt hd vs8700mgt....its hd2600 vs the 8600m gt???

im curious how they perform but for some reason these owners are either kids or really stupid...they never seem to post legit info..like if you look on youtube and see people playing medium and posting real fps...vs forums where kids say they are playing all high and getting 20-40fps is complete bs..they dont post videos of it for a reason...

 

Well 1st of all you are using an article from the inquirer (kinda iffy)

2nd of all it is an article about desktop drivers (not laptops ones)

3rd of all my 3dMark06 score stays around 4600 on my non overclocked laptop (1280 x 800) no matter which drivers I use, new or old.

4th this argument has already been proven that the cards are pretty close but the 8600 is a bit ahead and this article will most likely get dominated by Chaz, the creator of the mobile gpu guide.

 

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post or at least give me an idea of what u get with the crysis bench and my config..takes 1 min..its a very legit way of testing..

and i like the notebookcheck site...but stock i dont get a average of 3100 lol not even close..700 points off which is 300 higher than the gt

 

Have you posted a screenshot of your Crysis benchmarks results yet?

 

well man i dont hate u lol...dont get defensive its just a card lol not a person

sup



and well yea inquirer lol iffy for sure
funny stuff
next u keep mentioning 3dmark..but what does that mean??does that mean u will get 10 fps more in games? lol unlikely prove it..

framerates in crysis prove it
lol anygame and overclock it to the max...prove it
also
download this..overclock the crap outta ya card
and tell me what u get for fps

http://freestone-group.com/download/VideoCardStabilityTestSetup.exe

 

in before the lock.

 

http://freestone-group.com/download/VideoCardStabilityTestSetup.exe

download that its a quick painless benchamrk..tell me what u get

i got 75 stock---103 ocd

this benchmark ive me the same fps as ccs max settings... so ill have an idea with this program

 

as a side note, ill take my non defective, cooler running, HD 2600 GDDR3 over a defective, more hotter running 8600M GT GDDR3.

 

It has been said dozens of times on this forum that the HD 2600 and the 8600M-GT are relatively similar in performance, and that you can't go wrong with either one.

3DMark scores aren't that important to people . . . most ask "will this notebook run x game?", not "how many 3Dmarks will I get with this card?", as evidenced by the 5,196 replies to *The Official "Can My Notebook Run It?" Thread*.

Based on the wording of the original post, this thread is going to do nothing but cause a flame war.