HD2600 in HP 8510p and OC

Has anybody was actually able to o/c the card?? If so, what software did you use??

AtiTrayTools for me gives BSOD even when clicking default clocks button [showing 13.5Mhz as current clocks - even when 3dmarking...]

AtiTool starts but it takes loads of CPU usage and I am constantly turning it off after few minutes as it pisses me off

 

Try with riva turner

 

can riva tuner clock ati cards?

 

Yes, at low level not driver level...

Try ATI Tray Tools and SysTool too.

 

Try PowerStrip (shareware, +limited OC potential) or ATI Tool .27 beta 2, (I think that's what it's at now), I'm using it along with gpuz, and although ATT may "reset" the clocks when you say set clocks, they actually stick. If you use gpuz before and after and it seems that they stay, run 3dmark just to be sure though. Haven't had much time to check into this fully as I'm swamped with assignments ATM.
PS. Powerstrip allowed me to set clocks: not sure if they stuck, research required.
ATI Tool, seemed to allow clock changed, run 3dmark before/after to verify.

 

Ati tray tools the new v. is supporting 2xxxHD series, do if it was me i would get it instead of riva tuner. Im currently using atitray tools and it is very stable and nice program although if you need stable frequency you should go down by 20mhz and not 5mhz when it detects artifacts otherwise you can get graphical glitches and system crach...

 

I did OCing with ATI Tool beta and it worked quite well. Sadly I made the mistake of doing "find max core/mem" only to come back 5 hours later to see the program still looking for the max stable speeds! I had to cancel it and it didn't tell me how far it got.

Of course we know this GPU can be clocked way higher (AND even higher than stock, since it's just an underclocked 2600 XT) so maybe I should just slam it up to stock speeds once and see what happens

 

what clocks did u get?? when i was using ati tool beta after moving the sliders up they went back down again... [catal 7.9]. have your tried 7.8??
was the driver stable??

i managed to o/c mine with 'AMD GPU clock' but in 7.9, drivers kept resetting and going back to stock clocks.
why there is no way to o/c hardware way, only 'drivers' way??

 

If the clocks go back to the defaults - turn off powerplay in CCC!

Ivan

 

Ok! Thanks! I will try that!

Ackeron, can u update me on the questions Ive asked You??

 

Oh sorry. I did say ATI Tool didn't tell me the clocks Annoying program! hah.

I was running 7.8. I still am, actually. I went to the ATI Tool FAQ and it doesn't seem to list the procedure or mhz increment for the auto testing it does. But I ran it for literally five hours without end.

As I said, the HD 2600 is just the 2600 XT with lower clocks. I imagine you could set this thing to 500 core 600 mem (eg. stock clocks) right away and be fine.

 

I read somewhere that ATI Tool and AMD GPU clock read the card's clocks from the BIOS. So they don't show the current clocks, just the original clocks

 

I tried some OC now...here are the results:

ATI Tray Tools: Bluescreen
Powerstrip: No Changes

ATI Tool: It seems like it doesn't change the clocks (if you press "set clock" it jumps back to the default ones), but actually it does (you can see it in GPU-Z).
-So i set them to 350/450 and ran 3DMark06 -> 2450... well that wasn't the result i wanted to see since i get about 3350 without oc.
-I set the default clock in ATI Tools again (300/400) -> 2250...
-I uninstalled ATI Tools and did a reboot -> 3350
-I installed ATI Tools, set 350/450, uninstalled it, checked with GPU-Z: clocks are still 350/450, ran 3DMark06 -> 2450....

If I check with the Task Manager, CPU/memory usage seems fine, but i get still very low scores on 3DMark. What i noticed is that especially the CPU-Test in 3DMark06 runs really bad (0 fps, without ati tool: 1-2 fps).

Probably someone can test if he has the same issues. Or even better: solve them

 

350/450 is an underclock, of course you got bad results.

 

So what is standard clocks for that?? I had the same problem yet i blamed it on drivers. Also tried different things in settings.
Highest score so far was around 3300 and that was without o/c. Funny.
Does 2GB or more of ram improve much of the performance in that case??

 

GPU-Z showed me for default 300/400... fact is that we actually can't know the standard clocks. It is rumored to be 400/500, so i set it that way and checked again with GPU-Z and ran 3DMark -> the result was an error after the second CPU-Test (and the CPU Test was still at 0 fps, so i doubt that the result would have been any better... So i ran the World in Conflict Demo benchmark -> 16 fps average, 5 fps minimum, 35 max.
Did a reboot and ran the benchmark again -> 21 average, 7 min, 46 max...
So it really seems to be a problem of ATI Tool and not the clocks. Probably they're somehow 'locked'...guess we have to wait for a new ATI Tool, better drivers or a BIOS update...

 

Have you checked the AMD GPU tool ive mentioned on the previous page??

 

do you mean it resets everytime you restart the computer or it resets straight away? what results did you get while overclocked? Im hoping to get 4000+ 3dmark06 with the HD2600

 

i moved the slider up a bit and clicked set settings or sthign like that to set the new clocs and it went down to default clocks straight away.

So we all are

 

Tried the same as Shambles.ch, had the same results

hopefully it will be solved soon

 

4000+ is possible with HD2600. In another forum, someone managed to get over 4100 3DMark06 with his HD2600 (had a toshiba notebook).

Tried now with AMD gpu clock...set to 400/500 and they seem to stay so i ran 3DMark06 -> 2800

 

Ive tried 7.10 today. didnt even finished 3dmark after fps ive seen there was no point. i dont know if this is a problem with drivers or cleaning the system. i will backup my data in coming days and will do clean install + ghost to check all drivers on the clean install.

 

Seems like the topic died but Im going to refresh it again

Did some test again since I managed to get my clean Vista up now

Ok. Configuration:
Clean Vista, all necessary drivers, no gfx drivers until actuall test, all unnecesary processes turned off.
3 GB of RAM.
Tested drivers: stock HP ones, 7.8, 7.9, 7.10 - all modified with DH modtool.
I did 3D mark 2005 and 2006 [ with the new HOTFIX avaiable from Futuremark, u dont need to delete/rename any *.dll files anymore ]
To overclock I used AMD GPU Tool 0.7.

I only ran 3D mark 05 after o/c [well, I think o/c settings ]

That is what i got

 

thanks destiny, except your 3dmark2006 graph seems a little odd.

and are 300/400 your stock clocks?!?! that seems really low.

 

Well, from what we know about HP8510p it comes with HD2600 DDR3 that is downclocked a bit. Usually during 2D mode [desktop etc] it runs with clocks like on my attachment picture [with the best score]. Yet I forgotten to add, that i did put AMD GPU there on purpose with show current clocks enabled to see if it will change during benchamrking. During the time where 3d mark changes between games test i noticed that clock speeds jump from 300/400 [which is set as default maximum for this HP] to those shown on the pic - 125/250. the only thing that suprised me most is that maximum stock clocks were giving better results than overclocked ones. I believe that even 500/600 was not actually 500/600. I can only assume that is was 200 more MHz from probably 125 and 250, giving close results of 375/450. As fas as I know currently o/c of the core gives better results so thats why probably score were different.

The only problem with o/c I had was that if i tried to put clocks higher than 500 for the core [i was at the time still assuming that 500 I see is 500 I get] it reacted with color stripes on the screen. I had to do a restart every time.
Putting mem higher to some extent resulted in 3d mark crashing on 1st test.

 

What program are you using to OC Destiny?

 

AMD GPU tool 0.7
This was 'sort of' the only one that was working. AtiTool was working but gave too many crashes. I might try to give it a go tmrw, god, it is so late now lol.

 

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Very nice work man! I'm going to wait and see what updates people put out for the o/c programs before I do any more testing but wow, it seems like I should really install cats 7.10 ! My 7.8s look really slow

 

so there are still overclocking problems.........Hopefully ATI tools will be working soon. I really liked to use that.

 

That is exactly what I am hoping as well. Ati Tool didnt work as previously - couldnt go to bed until I actually tested it lol

Im going to try to prove my theory in a minute - set the clocks to exactly 300/400 with AMD GPU but counting from 125/250 to 300/400 - moving sliders for 175/150 relativly to 300/400 which is shown in the tool (so 475/550). Wonder what results will I get


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Ok. Here U go. Results as an attachement Weird...
Seems like ATis Power Play is giving this card a big boost. Im going to put XP on my 2nd partition today, so will be running tests again there
For me it looks like there is some lack of Voltage on the core to get it up higher or BIOS or drivers are blockig o/c. Damn U HP

 

I'll be excited when it can be overclocked out of the box to 4000+ in 3dmark06

God speed

 

Some very weird scores from windows XP. 1st one from stock drivers from HP website with PP enabled - clocks jump to 300/400 during test.

2nd one from 7.10 modified with modtool for XP from ATis website.

Frankly speeking I was expecting much much more...

Either overclocking is not really working or there is somethig else wrong

 

What are your GPU temps during those two tests? If the temp is significantly higher when running OC'd, then you know the OC is actually working. As of now, I doubt those clock speeds are accurate, it just doesn't seem possible.

 

According to the AMD GPU tool where u can monitor tems the highest one during test it recorded was 43 degrees Celcius. It was with both clocks - default and o/c.

 

What do other temp monitoring programs say? Like maybe Rivatuner, or NHC?

 

Those GPU clocks / scores seem very inaccurate =/

 

I use Speedfan to monitor my temps and it's always accurate. But yeah it seems there's something else going on that's messing up OC attempts. I don't know if the HD 2600 is too new or if it's a limitation on HP's part or what but stuff ain't working right

If this is HP's doing I'm pretty unhappy, considering how grossly they underclocked our GPU.

 

Has anyone even confirmed 100% what the stock 3d clocks are?

 

Guys with the new cats, you have disable several ATI processes to get the card to O/C.

 

Ive got some shocking news... Will post a bit later, just woke up

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EDIT:

So here it is...

Looks like O/c with AMD GPU is actually working... at least to some extent...

Do You know new ATi tech demo for DX10?? well i downloaded it last night and thought lets use fraps and get some rough FPS rate.
I didnt run it for the whole demo since it was a bit long but tried to do it in the same lenght for all of them - from the beggining till a big jump on the board when u can have a look closer on the girl's face. Drivers 7.10 in both cases.
First I ran it with PP enabled, and clocks went to default 300/400 - average frame rate 3.25 FPS with min of 1 FPS and max of 7 FPS.
Then without PP, o/c with AMD GPU tool to 500/650 - average frame rate 4.81 FPS with min of 2 FPS and max 10 FPS.
When I compared the results side by side and was actually watching u could clearly see that improvement of performance. Overclocked one was even ok to watch.
Also side by side it looks that most frames had an improvement of minimum of 3 FPS per frame, in some cases it was even 5 FPS.

So it looks like HP did s*** job blocking our BIOS and giving it so low clocks. Lets hope we can change it somehow and new drivers or Ati Toll will enable us to o/c more

 

Why is ATI making it so difficult for us!!??

Anyway, this card seems to have great potential.....

what is 'PP' by the way...can you turn off PP and run 3dmarks06 to see what happens? or have you tried that already. i havent read through the whole thread....

 

gonna try that too...but do you still get these weird 3DMarks scores?

 

Looking forward to your results shambles.ch!! Do u know how to do it?? if not have a look on my guide http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=170472

Macpod, PP is powerplay in ATi Control Centre. Its the thing for laptops that changes your clocks - and crashes when o/c hehe when u are on battery and on AC. I tried both.

 

I think it's probably HP that blocked o/c potential, not ATI...but either way, very annoying!

 

Try powerstrip, that works for me. ATT and ATi Tools would not let me overclock.

 

new RivaTuner 2.06 beta is out and supposed to support HD2600 series. But the thing is that the "low-level system settings" (for overclocking) is missing if i click on "customize". Can anyone try if you also don't have this option?

Any other (good) news about oc'ing the 8510p?

 

Shame on HP:

Toshiba is able to bring "official" new display drivers!

http://de.computers.toshiba-europe....=26&selType=11&country=12&language=17&search=

I think its the 7.11

Can someone test this driver?

NOTE: It is the non US way to write a date (6/11/07= 11/6/07 US) I think.

 

Alright I got the following specs:

Toshiba A200-1M8
Intel Core2duo T7100 1.80Ghz 1MB cache
HDD 160GB
ATI Radeon HD2600 256 dedicated DDR2
Everything else is irrelevant

My default setting is core 500 and memory 400.
My system setting - gaming score jumped from 4.8 to 5.3
and areo score jumped from 4.7 to 5.9
As for 3dmark 06 before overclocking it was 3283
After overclocking I got a 3dmark06 score of 4182.

My overclocked core was 700 and 500 memory. To give you a better understanding in performance I just purchased a copy of the new Devil May Cry 4 game. I had the catalyst suit 6. something and this was also before overclocking. The game ran on high quality and settings by default and got a pathetic 8-10fps. And there was alot of distortion. I downloaded the latest 8.9 catalyst suit and modified it naturally. The results were as stated above but in practice I got 28-35fps on DMC4 and everything was smooth and crisp. I nearly **** my pants. I must say I am thrilled. I plan in buying a new CPU quad core. This should boost my 3dmark 06 to about 5000. That is my belief.

ALPHA