Ok.
I made this tuturial because perhaps some people want to do the same like i did and do not know where to start. This tuturial will work on most laptops which have a InsydeH20 BIOS and a HD5650M. Maybe other BIOS will also work. Do this if you already know that the selected clocks will be stable. If you dont know stable clocks try to find them out with TriXX and ATITool.
FIRST OF ALL: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU DO OR WILL DO! DO THIS A YOUR OWN RISK !!!
A) With this tuturial you will be possible to make out of a HD5650M a HD5730M with OC.
B) You will have to modify your BIOS and flash the new one. If something goes wrong its your fault. Pay attention and ask if youre not sure what to do.
C) Some laptops have not enough cooling performance and will crash if the temps go to high remember:
-> MAX. CPU temperature for most i-core models is 90 C
-> MAX. GPU temperature for the HD5650M is around 105 C
Here we go:
1. We have to download all necessary programms and a BIOS update file.
RBE ( RadeonBiosEditor)
PhoenixSLICTool
7zip
Your laptop BIOS:
TOSHIBA users here
2. We have to open the executable ( BIOS-update.exe) with 7zip.
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Extract all files into a folder. Now copy the .FD file into another folder wich is empty.
3. To proceed you have to start the PhoenixSLICTool ( PheonixTOOL.exe) and select the ORIGINAL BIOS file. This is in this case the extracted .FD file.
Let it work for a minute until a popup appears called INFORMATION. Just clock OK.
Then a second popup with INFORMATION will appear. Click OK again. Then select in the MANUFACTURER box OTHER or your Notebook Brand.
Click on ADVANCED an select NO SLIC and ALLOW USER TO MODIFY OTHER MODULES. Click DONE.
Now click GO.
Wait until the following popup appears:
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DO NOT PRESS OK!
4. Open RBE and go to the detination were you saved the .FD file only.
There is a folder called DUMP. Open it.
Now you will have to search the GPU BIOS file. Just start from the beginning and try to open the first/second etc. until you have found the right on wich can be opened and has got the right values.
In my case it was 8DFAE5D4-B50E-4C10-96E6-F2C266CA5678_1_670.ROM but there were other BIOS files too. If youre not sure wich to choose: look into the settings and check if the clocks are the same like GPU-Z is reading.
If you have found the right file lets start to change the values. Attention: If a error report appeared with ATI Override just skip it/ignore it close it.
I just modified the first BOX to this values:
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If you cant select Voltages write them manually.
5. Save RBE changes and close the RBE.
6. Now back to the PhoenixSLICTool. Click NOW OK and let it finish modifing the BIOS until the STATUS is SUCCEESS.
7. The BIOS is saved as YOURBIOS_SLIC.FD delete your YOURBIOS.FD in the folder in wich we extracted the BIOS and the programm with 7zip. and copy this one into it. Delete the _SLIC at the end.
8. Ready???!! Start the insydeH20 flash utility. If you cant update because its the same BIOS version:
Open the platform file with a texteditor and change:
[Bios_Version_Check]
flag=1
;This flag is the switch of checking Bios Version. When flag is 1, utility will
;check Bios Version. If rom file Version is older than Bios, utility will display warnning
;message and close application. When flag is 0, utility won't check rom file version.
;When flag is 2, this depend on BIOS report.
to:
[Bios_Version_Check]
flag= 0
;This flag is the switch of checking Bios Version. When flag is 1, utility will
;check Bios Version. If rom file Version is older than Bios, utility will display warnning
;message and close application. When flag is 0, utility won't check rom file version.
;When flag is 2, this depend on BIOS report.
Lets go!!! FLASH.
Let it reboot and check the GPU Speeds and the Voltage if you had to modify it too ( i had 0.95 Volts and modded to 1.0 Volt and 675Mhz Core were finally stable). I had still shown 0.95 Volt but it had to be 1.0 because the speeds were stable.
A BIG THX TO seeker_moc![]()
who showed me how to do this!
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Where are my uploaded PICs????!!!
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Take care ... this only works when ATI Powerplay is active and you are on the high performance choice ... if you disable ATI Powerplay both the clocks & voltage go back to their normal values
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this is just to modify voltage right? can i normally tweak the clock speeds using any OC tool in windows after this or is it permanent clock tweaking? what is the max voltage? can i go upto 1.1? mine already uses 1.0v but its not stable at clocks >650/850 if i increase memory more than that i get artifacts.
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Yes you can OC using any tool later on windows or if you want you can set permanent OCed clocks the same way you do the voltage
As for going for 1.1 ... well unless you don't fry your GPU I think it is possible but I really don't recommend it ... start with something less extreme like 1.02~1.04 -
how do i extract the bin? and how to recompress and stuff,7zip isnt working,plz take a look and tell me plz. -
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Ok the .fd file should be 01448F23.bin.
If you want specific clocks or voltage you will have to do it the hard way
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You will have to search in the BIOS the actual clocks:
I think you have 450/800 clocks. Then you will have to search in the BIOS file
for 450000 and 800000 then you can change for example 450000 to 550000.
The core speed will run then 550Mhz. But you need to know that the speeds that you´ll set will be 100% stable. And voltage modding wont be so easy like i did with RBE.
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Uhhh Voltage modding with a hexeditor is very complicated. Perhaps some pioneers like seeker_moc know how to do it. But i dont. Even if. The type of modding the Voltage would be on every notebook diffrent. On some you can do it in Windows by modifing ACPI with NHC. On others you will have to find out how the powermanagement works and develop a new module for the BIOS to modify it. etc.
To modify the Volatage with RBE and CCC powerplay is compared to this very easy.
Perhaps you can search for your actual voltage in the BIOS and try to change it:
Actual 1.0 Volt in performance mode: change to 1.1 Volt and perhaps you will get what you set.
But the chance bricking the notebook with such a voltage mod is near
90% because there might be many voltages and you modify the wrong one or you just ´´kill´´ a BIOS module wich had the numbers 1.0 in it. o_o -
, really appreciate it. if you know any other ways to increase FPS ingame then please tell me
my max OC is 650/850 anything more than 850 memory gives artifacts.
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You know your golden when you hit around 875mhz core.
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Thanks for the guide.
I have flashed my bios with 650/800 (was 450) it states 650 on the main tab of GPU-Z but on the sensors tab it's telling it it's 450 still? this is while in game?
Any ideas?
Laptop is in sig pretty much same as yours.
My bios file was the same as yours too: 8DFAE5D4-B50E-4C10-96E6-F2C266CA5678_1_670.ROM
Regards
P.S i can no longer overclock in AMD GPU Tool either, when i changed it from 450 to 650 it gives me an error when i set the clocks?!?! -
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@junglebungle have you enabled CCC powerplay????
You will have to use then rivatuner or TriXX to OC.
I had to do it sometimes too but the Voltage modding worked.
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But i still prefer my undervolted vBIOS because the laptop FAN is working only 50% - 70% while gaming instead of 70%-100% wich is much louder.
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I take it that this is not possible with a hd laptop. I've had it for about three weeks now and due to the graphics card (hd 5650) possibly being underpowered (despite setting the power settings to high performance in both the power settings and in powerplay) I've been getting all kinds of lock ups and crashes in games (display driver becoming unresponsive). I have tried various overclocking utilities such as Msi Afterburner, ATT, Gpu-z etc but have been unable to change the voltage any higher. I'm looking to modify the Bios in order to change the card clock speed and voltage settings.
It's annoying as hell for me because I know this instability/ crashing is due to the card being under powered yet it is impossible to oc with software for some reason.
My laptop is the HP Pavilion dv6-3180ea with HP r25 version BIOS (Innyside v20)
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Thanks for replies, yes my CCC powerplay is always enabled and when i play games i always set to high performance, i will check other modules to see if i've missed any editing in the RBE editor.
For now i have flashed to my original BIOS as that allowed me to OC to 650 manually in AMD GPU tool.
I will check now and try it again.
Regards
P.S i will try it with TriXX, has anyone got a copy they can upload? the website seems to be down.
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Ok i've just done it again and it definately don't work for me, unfortunately, here are some screenshots:
I've done it like this:
I've also tried it with every box with 650/800 1.0 as well.
Here it states 650mhz
Actual mhz, 450 in game:
CCC PowerPlay is enabled, AC plugged in, and High Performance, i can't work out why it's not working?
AMD GPU Tool:
It's really bugging me as i would like to go higer than 650 because my temps don't even rise over 60degrees at 650mhz, mainly i just want to overvolt to 1.0. -
I can understand you but it seems that yout vBIOS doesnt support OCing through CCC PowerPlay but it should support Voltage modding.
I also wasnt able to read out 1.0 Volt in GPU-Z but was able to apply higher clocks with RivaTuner and check them with GPU-Z. So Overvolting worked. But the sensor cant read the new values.
When i noticed that the performance lacks come from the HDD i decided to undervolt my GPU to 0.9 Volt @ stock clocks and it went well.
This 5 FPS gain in some games is just not worth 20C more HEAT and killing the GPU. I mean 700Mhz Core @ 1.20 Volts are possible but i wont do it again because the change of bricking the BIOs/GPU are to dangerous.
I did it just4fun and it worked for me.
Anyway i didnt touch the clocks at all--> only the Voltage
I am just enjoying a quiet laptop while gaming.
However when BF3 comes out i will think about modding the GPU the Hard way and opening my laptop to find the PSU and change the trafo system to get 1.30 Volts. Maybe i will be able to get 800Core thenbut at the end i will have melted plastic on my desk
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P.S. what is your ``Short Model No´´ junglebungle??
Have you tried to make a vBIOS with untouched clocks and overvolting only??
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I've never used CCC powerplay to overclock? i always used AMD GPU Tool and it always lets me overclock on the standard bios, but once i edit the bios to new clock it won't let me overclock with aMD GPU tool anymore.
Also the clocks just don't change from 450 even though GPU-Z states its 650 in the main tab.
I have just downloaded TriXX but the slider stops at 600?? is there anyway to go past this?
Also, where do i find my "Short Model No?"
I will try just overvolting and see how i get on.
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You will find the number under your laptop where the ``TOSHIBA´´ sticker is.
There is written part no. xxxxx-xxxxxxxx or something like that. The first part is important.
I dont use AMD GPU clock tool for OCing since it doesnt protect IO ports and leads to crashes when gaming BFBC2 with enabled PB.
RivaTuner with a modded .cfg file works much better and can use specific key combinations in windows to apply diffrent clocks.
According to Voltage:
0.90 Volts stable 500Mhz Core
0.95 Volts stable 550Mhz Core
1.00 Volts stable 600Mhz Core
1.10 Volts stable 650Mhz Core
1.20 Volts stable 700Mhz Core
This is what my HD5650M needed to get to 700Mhz Core.
But it gets too HOT. And really if you will use your laptop longer undervolt it.
With overvolting it it might brick faster. Remember geforce 6800 ultra???
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Wow you can go up to 1.2v?
The 5730 will use less leaky silicon.
At 1.1v I was at 875mhz stable.
1.0v it was stable at around 775mhz.
My desktop 5670 (same core) would go to 1000mhz on 1.2v, at 1.32v it would go to 1125mhz.
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Oh! you have the same laptop like i have! RivaTuner works but you have to use a modded .cfg file!
Here you go:
1. Install RivaTuner and GPU-Z
2. Launch RivaTuner and close it again
3. Launch GPU-Z and check your device ID
4. If it is 1002 - 68C1 you can download the attached .cfg file and paste it into the Rivatuner installation folder ( overwrite the old one!)
5. Restart Rivatuner and OC
If your ID is an other PM methen i will make a new .cfg file for you.
Attached Files:
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Rivatuner now lets me overclock, it doesn't show any other info though but i'm not worried about that.
Rivatuner only allows me to go to 675 though i can't go any higher?
I also haven't modified my bios and tried this so i will do that now and see how it goes.
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Still not working for me, attached is screenshot, after modifying the bios, it all still reads 650mhz but gpu-z is still 450mhz actual mhz and in game is 450 still
looks like mine is blocked?
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Yeah... I had the same problem but i OC through RT. Does at least Voltage mod work??
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Undervolted BIOS @ stock (450/800)
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Ok i've undervolted only, and kept clocks at 450..
my voltage is at 0.9 and i can overclock using rivatuner, maybe the bios locks the overvolt and therefore doesn't allow you to overclock at 1.0? i don't know.....
Temps are cooler at 0.9 though which i'm very happy about
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Ok heres the solution:
Install overvolt BIOS. Reboot. Deactivate AMD PowerPlay. Try to activate again. It wont but the voltage is set. OC with TriXX.
HERE 1.0 Volt
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Thanks for the great solution for undervolting though
HD5650M GPU/Voltage Modding to HD5730M
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