HELP 9800m gtx bios flash!!!!!!!!

ok i don't see any instructions on it and i would like as much help as posible. i will post everything on the editor and would like you all to see what's the best settings.

what i am trying to focus on best performance when playing games at stocked settings and when i'm overclocked i'm not being bound by anything.

my second main focus is when i am idle in 2d mode to make the gpu use no power to lower temps but not to low where aero can't work and it shoots to 3d becasue then it defeats the purpose.

my computer right now with the fans off the gpu idles between 50-56. when the fans in always on it goes to 38c so i would like to try to get as low as posible.



this is my first time flashing a nvidia card so i would like a walk threw since i can't find anyone on the internet with it and i need pictures or detailed instuctions. i am going to to show you all the clocks etc on it so you just say "on the first picture do this and that"

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thanks alot for your help!!!!!!!!!

 

Wow. I actually just finished writing a short guide earlier. You're in luck.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4931771&postcount=14

 

lol thanks. i will look father into this, try it and post my results and edit the first post.

 

I will give you a head start with your 9800M GTX.

These clocks are guaranteed stable.

Extra: 600/1500/900 @ 1v.
3D: 400/800/300 @ 0.75v
Throttle: 300/600/300 @ 0.7v
2D: 160/320/80 @ 0.7v

I have never tried anything higher than 600/1500/900 @ 1v on my old 9800M GTX, but you should be able to run stable at 620/1550/930 @ 1.05v, and from there you can slowly work your way up.

 

ok you answered the question i was just going to ask you about the 2d clocks thanks alot. and all these clocks were good for you?


my extra will remain stock how ever. want my gpu to last long and will only be changed for benchmarking purposes UNLESS later on i see more and more games games are starting to stuggle on very high.

i really wish i got your gpu but the whole heatsink fan was a bummer for me. mad: )

 

All of the clocks above were rock stable on my 9800M GTX. Your D901C should be able to handle the heat a little better as the cooling system is more robust compared to the M570TU. 600/1500/900 @ 1v only produces a little bit more heat compared to stock 500/1250/800 @ 1v. If I can recall, my M570TU, on a passive cooler, never surpassed 75*C on Furmark for 20 minutes at those clocks. It's only when you bump up the voltage to 1.05v at the same clock speed where you will be seeing the sharp increase in heat.

It is true that at those clocks, the GPU's life span will be shorter, but not by much. You will most likely have a new machine by the time the GPU shows any signs of aging. As long as the temperatures are kept out of the red zone and you keep the GPU fan and heatsink in working order, it will not die anytime soon. It pretty much free performance, but whatever floats your boat is okay in my book.

Godspeed with your notebook.

 

ok just reading over your clocks and i have a few questions.

i love your 2d clock but are your sure that my notebook will stay at 2d clocks when doing normal task, i love eye candy so aero will be on with the 3d flip and everythign so i don't want it to jump to throttle when i do something light weight.


i see that you pumped everything else and the voltage is very low which is aplus i am glad but i would want it to stay alittle even i am thinking

extra 500/1250/800 1.05v(overclocking purposes)
3d 380 750 300 0.75v
thrtl 275/550/300 0.75v
2d 160/320/80 0.7v

this was taking from you and some tweaks from me and some left alone.


at 2d don't you think the memory is to low.

 

I don't know if your GPU will stay at 2D during light tasks, but I'm pretty sure that it will throttle up with Aero effects. All my clocks are based on my use. I run everything Windows 95 style with only my rotating wallpaper being the only eye candy on my machine.

There isn't anything intensive for the memory to draw at 2D. 80Mhz is fast enough for light work. But at 75Mhz, you will begin to see problems, most noticably with sleep mode.

May I ask why you raised the voltage for your max level? 1v is already more than enough to operate stock clocks.

 

for benchmarking i raised it for. for gaming at my clocks i believe my temps shouldn't be effected but by 1-2degrees. for bench marking i can reach higher clocks but it won't be all the time what 3-10 minutes max on a benchmark and when i'm done str8 back to stock clocks. this is the reason why i raised the voltage.

but i also like low idle temps. (i'm to greedy and want everything lol.)

ok you keeped everything disabled which i wouldn't since vista uses your gpu and window 7 uses your cpu to do the gui. i'm using vista right now.


i may change them then to this
extra 500/1250/800 1.05v
3d 380/700/300 0.75v
thrtl 250 or 275 not sure/525/300 0.75v
2d 180/350/100 0.7v


i am glad however how your voltages are shot all the way down. makes me happy that i can preserve the life of my gpu when idling. i am glad you tried this. i already gave you rep i wish i could rep you again.

 

Sorry, I'm having a little trouble reading that one; your grammar is all over the place. So you raise the voltage and the clocks, in which the values of the clocks you plan to use have not been listed here yet, during benchmarking, and during games you set the voltage and the clocks back to stock?

 

ok i raised the voltage but i am flashing at stock clocks right now because for gaming, i don't need the higher clocks. but when i benchmark, i will overclock using nvidia system tools to overclock. this is when i will be expermenting what's the best clocks to benchmark at.


when i finish benchmarking for 3-10 minutes, i will use nvidia system tools to revert back to default clocks for gaming. get me?

 

Ah, you didn't mention NST. Now it makes sense.

 

yeah sorry for not being more detailed about it. but can i flash in windows? if so, how?

 

You can only flash in DOS.

 

ok i will.

how does my clocks sound? does it seem right according to everything i needed?

 

Looks good to me.

 

ok thanks alot. i will re-read you thread on how to flash it. i wish you had pictures but i can follow instructions as well.(i'm a visual person)

 

You are lucky I get " BIOS READING NOT SUPPORTED ON THIS DEVICE ERROR" when I try to save my BIOS

 

no need to worry. that' why we have nbr. pm me your email, tonight i will send it to you,

 

tuηay. The problem that you have is that the EEPROM on your 9800M GTX isn't recognized by NiBiTor. This means nvFlash is unable to read or write any BIOS on your card, even if the BIOS is from dondadah88's card or from my old card.

 

sorry to hear tunay. it seems the same thing like when i had my whitebook and i couldn't flash either.

but my settings failed. my first settings my my gui freeze and it was very laggy.

then i up'd the voltage to 7.5 and restore the clocks alone and it did the same thing but it was more responsive. but then i up'd everything to 8v and stock clocks

not this is my setting and i'm set.. i will benchmark more when i get the change. also my i did shave some temps on my system idle.

 

A little off-topic, but dondadah what ever happend to your Ocz Whitebook? Why the sudden change to a Sager NP9262?

 

So you mean it is not possible to do anything for now?

 

i sold it. because i was fed up with flez/ocz. i went to sager cause of the desktop cpu can cooling.

it seems so. i remember my whitebook also had this problem and i couldn't flash no matter what i did. you could still try but it may not be sucesssul.

 

Got it, thanks to both

 

how is the cooling on your toshiba. and what would you do to the 9800m gtx bios.

 

The new nVidia drivers are very hot. I had a max temp. of 80C but now with 185.85 DOX it is 87C. No change with overclock or not. My laptop is silent, untill temps. go high then the fans kick start and cool it down and turns off again...

 

oh ok i see

report with my stock clocks playing prince of persia i hit 66c. and then with it on stock clocks and the voltage increased 1.05 my temps hit 74c.

i will try dmc4 and see what happens later tonight.i also went to my stock clocks for everything because i have a driver failure which upping the volts from .7 to .8 fixed that.

 

I don't want to change any clocks or something
I only want to incrast voltage to 1.05.

Your temps seems better then mine

 

well i have a choice of keeping my fan always on or auto. and i was doing it on always on. if i did it on auto it maybe would of been higher.

i over and undervolted because of this

right now my room is alittle more on the cool side but if i keep my fan on auto my gpu idles at 50-56 and if the fan is always on it goes to 32-34 which to me is big difference. so i think if i undervolt the idle clocks and lower it i may be able to get a lower idle with fans off. i may have to do some trial and errors to get it right

 

It seems that your card was built on a Friday. When I used to dual boot Vista Ultimate x64 as my secondary, my GPU had no problems at all running the GUI at my clocks and voltages. And this was on full Aero.

You can use Nvidia System Tools to overvolt. But seeing how your card hits high temperatures at 1v and below 600/1500/900 only on games, I warn you to be very careful.

 

I liked you idea, good luck

Well, I can't becouse I have intel chipet. But some of the other X300/305 users can.

 

Ah, I see. Well, I'm stumped then.

 

Mee too

 

dondadah88, did you ever complete your OC/undervolt?
Your setup is more or less what I'm looking for and you did say you would update/edit your original post when finished

 

lol. my notebook far gone but yes i did sucessfully acomplish it.

what notebook do you have?

 

I'll be getting a secondhand Zepto 17" (1920x1080) with P8600 (2,4Ghz), 9800GTX and running Windows 7 tomorrow, so I was kinda interested in your figures.
I know GPUs can differ but would be nice to have approx figures.

 

you can shave off some voltage off of your 2d, thor, and 3d.
i would do
2d 7.5v
th 8v
3d 8v

i wouldnt touch the clocks only because they can get really buggy of not combined witth the right voltage.

 

OK many thanks for your figures.

These were the figures you initially were working with (allowing Aero enabled):
extra 500/1250/800 1.05v
3d 380/700/300 0.75v
thrtl 250 or 275 not sure/525/300 0.75v
2d 180/350/100 0.7v

Did the 2D /Thrtl work with these settings as you wanted?

 

the 2d clock was alittle low doing normal stuff where i had stutters. so i left that stock and just lowered the voltage on that.

 

This is what i did on FX 3700M.

 

OK, need some help in making a bootable USB or confirming below is correct.

If understood correctly the USB should be formatted to FAT32 with a Win98 img/boot sector on it.
Then nvFlash and cwsdpmi are to copied onto the USB.
(have googled and found a cwsdpmi7b.zip file which contains both a Bin and Manifest folder) Are both folders to be extracted to Root of the USB?

And finally add the edited 0617.rom to the USB.

Anything missing or incorrect in above?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=246530

 

OK, thanks for the thread but am getting confused now???

According to Soviet Sunrise's tut "Once you have made your USB stick bootable, copy nvFlash and cwsdpmi into your USB stick. Then copy G92.rom and G92X.rom into your USB stick"

but Zfactor's tut doesnt say anything about nvFlash/ cwsdpmi??
Also Zfactor just mentions "now copy the files for flashing to the stick in this folder you just made" - is this just the 0617.rom file?

Which tut is "correct"?

 

nvflash and the other is programs needed for the bios flash.

zfactors is how to make the flash drive become bootable.

 

zfactor's guide is a walkthrough on how to make a USB stick drive bootable and to flash a system BIOS, not GPU BIOS.

 

OK, thanks for clearing that.

Which just leaves 2 qs:
Are both cwsdpmi-folders to be copied to root of the USB or are all files in the 2 folders to be copied to root?
Aside from the 0617.rom any other files?

Sorry if I'm a bit dense but its late my end of the world

 

All files involved in the procedure must be contained in the same directory whether it is the root of the drive or another directory you have made on your boot drive that you have designated for GPU flashing.

 

Thanks, Soviet Sunrise.

In your tut you say "Type in the following command to force flash your card, "nvflash -4 -5 -6 -A -y G92X.rom" Are the commands the same for the 9800M GTX or do they only apply for the 8800M GTX?

If yes, what is the command for 9800M GTX?

 

it will work for your card. as long as it isn't sli.