HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

Hmm, good point. I don`t know. The guy in the thread is doing 3DMark11 and Vantage now I think so hopefully we will see

Stock

You can`t see the pic or is it too small?

 

the pic is too small, couldnt read the settings and when I tried to zoom it blurred too much

thanks for the effort

 

Check your eyes or the screen. I can read it without zooming in

Anyways here are the 660M 3DMark11 scores. It have a GPU score of 2300, the same as GTX 570M. Who would have thought

Make shure you Rep Kammander from the other thread for doing this for us

 

my eyes are terrible and will only get worse

its the specs of the machine that I cant for the life of me read.

I cant rep Kammander have to spread the juice before

 

Yeah I know, that sucks. The picture was the only one I could find

And here is the final proof that GTX 660M = 570M
570M GPU score 9902, 660M GPU score 9850.

Posted in this thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/638159-asus-rog-g55-g75-april-gtx-670m-130.html

 

So when we OC the 660M... oh damn

 

Is the 660M OCing itself with GPU boost?

 

when OCed we achieve around the performance of the 670m, problem is that the 670m/570m are also great overclockers

 

Yup, I agree with MM. 570M is a good overclocker too from what I`ve heard.

There is another thread in the Asus forum where they overclocked the 660M. Here

Now that we have stock score we can compare the 660M:

3DMark11 GPU score Stock: 2301
3DMark11 GPU score OC: 2446
Increase: 6%

3DMark Vantage GPU score Stock: 9851
3DMark Vantage GPU score OC: 10447
Increase: 6%

 

The stock GTX 570M has been putting up a slightly over 10,000 GPU score from the first day it was debuted and tested by GentechPC. I've never seen a run under that value.

I might even be able to find the screenshot of the first run.

That doesn't change the fact that the 660M is virtually equal, but I like to be technical with numbers.

 

The 670m already has higher stock scores than overclocked 660m.

I was hoping a bit more performance. My HD5870m is still too near those scores. I think the HD7870m with it's rumored scores etc will give the GTX660m a run for it's money, considering on stock its already near 3k in 3dmark11 gpu score.

Overclocked 570m/670m score much higher though.

 

Yeah the 570/670M can clock 40% or more so its not going to win that fight.

 

Since Nvidia's going to be really late to the party, I'll probably buy a 7970M laptop pretty soon. Would have liked a 120hz screen, but I can live without it. Still waiting on a quote for an M17x.

 

Here is the facts:

3DMark11 GPU score Stock 660M: 2301
3DMark11 GPU score OC: 2446

3DMark11 GPU score 570M: 2300 (Equal to 660M)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

3DMark11 GPU score 670M: 2741 (19% faster than stock 660M, 12% faster than OC 660M)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

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3DMark Vantage GPU score Stock 660M: 9851
3DMark Vantage GPU score OC: 10447

3DMark Vantage GPU score 570M: 9902 (About equal to 660M)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

3DMark Vantage GPU score 670M: 10997 (12% faster than 660M stock, 5% faster than OC 660M)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

Looks to me that AMD will be winner on that race this time around. HD77 and HD78 series look to have better perf/w ratio and better perfomance overall.
Need to see more "leaks", but thats what it seems so far.
Pitcairn is incredibly efficent and AMD is making full use of GCN on mobile PC markets as well.
Im not saying that GTX680 cant beat HD7970. It may, but seems unlikely.
I am pretty sure that HD7850M and 7870M will beat Kepler counterparts tho. 660M looks rather weak.

 

660M at 75W is a joke.

 

I really dont get it, shouldn't games be less demanding? Instead of graphics cards getting beefier?

680m vs 7970m - guys its only 2 choices, if u have money go for the first one, if u like a better price/performance go for the second one. Its not that hard.

Benchmarks are overrated, at least for me, its only marketing ppl.

Can u really tell the diference between a game that is running at 55 fps another one at 49 fps?

I really dont get it, shouldn't games be less demanding? Instead of graphics cards getting beefier?

680m vs 7970m - guys its only 2 choices, if u have money go for the first one, if u like a better price/performance go for the second one. Its not that hard.

Benchmarks are overrated, at least for me, its only marketing ppl.

Can u really tell the diference between a game that is running at 55 fps another one at 49 fps?

 

SemRumo, from early benchmarks the 7970m beats the 680m by a lot so much so nvidia had to delay the 680m. Maybe they are ramping up the clocks as the 7970m was more powerful then they expected.

Anyway someone with an OC 6990m saying can you tell the difference between 55fps and 49fps is strange. Games are becoming more demanding due to being able to show more life like graphics as the graphics cards get more powerful, game makers make more improvements generally however there a lot of games that mid range cards played at 60fps at 720p.

Benchmarks are not overated as they generally tell you how you're card will perform even on 3dmark as they use fps scores to find out the actual score overall.

Game benchmarks are the main thing for people who game though.

 

I read on the Anandtech forums that the GTX660 (the card the 680M is going to be based on) isn't going to be out until 6 months from now. : /

News from OcUK about timeframe for GTX670 GTX660 and the rest of the Kepler stack - AnandTech Forums

 

I had heard rumors down the pipeline that the 660's were delayed for a long time. This kinda sucks

 

Overclockers UK is spreading lies and other sites are quoting them? I shure hope so

VR-Zone recently had news that Nvidia is ready with GTX 670 and GTX 660 Ti since the GK104 yields are now going great.
GTX 670 is already in stores right now around the world. Down below is one from a retail shop in China. BTW, this could be our GTX 680M

And here is the article from VR-Zone saying GTX 660 Ti and 670 is pretty near
NVIDIA Prepares Two More GK104-based cards - GeForce GTX 660 Ti and 670 by VR-Zone.com



BTW, May the 15th is looking promising. Any hope they will announce the GTX 680M along with the GTX 670/660Ti? Pretty please?!

CEO Will Announce Big GPU News On May 15: NVIDIA | Maximum-Tech

 

:O whoopeeee! Perhaps we'll see how well the GTX 680M is going fare vs the 7970M, and some confirmed specs and benches.

Actually, I'm hoping too much, they'll probably just say "oh the GTX 680M? yea yea its coming just wait for another 56 months and itll be there"

 

Man it sure is great to do research before buying a laptop =) Im about to get the P170HM from my retailer, but it has "only" the Nvidia GTX 675M 2 GB GDDR5. Now im not much of a gamer, but if the Kepler gpu will be out this month, i might have to hold of my purchase.

Looking forward to see whats announced tomorrow. Hopefully that the keplers will be out, then i'll wait for those to get retailed here in europe.

 

We ditched this thread after a while and discussed the 680M in this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/658185-amd-7970m-vs-gtx-680m.html

Only 116 pages more to read
No seriously, what we found out, or the proper word is "think" since its all speculation about the 680M, is that it won`t atleast be out until early July. 680M should be announced at Computex June 5 -9th. So if you want the 680M you will have to wait a little longer I`m afraid

 

Woha! Well now that definitely changes the game for me. Thanks for saving me 116 pages to read about this =) I'll just go ahead and order the laptop with the current gpu then. Im sure it will be nice and frankly i've been waiting for a clevo since the announce of P270WM aka january. So now its time to get the laptop

Cheers and +++ rep for the info! Sorry if i bumped a old topic, but i used the search function =)

 

why go for the 675m when you have the 7970m thats ovius a better choise at the moment

 

I do visual effects for movies and commercials and i work in linux thats why i choose the nvidia over the ati =) As i said im not a gamer =)

 

Considering fermi is stronger for CAD than the keplers we have at the moment (which have FP64 performance at 1/24th of FP32 performance), waiting for the 680M seems a little silly.

Also I would look at the Quadro series for professional drivers.

 

Well its not 3d work but compositing the 3d renders. Our application Nuke from The Foundry is not gpu based, at least not that much that it would make any significant difference to use the quadro for that work. We operate on cpu and memory + ssd. But yeah for cad and 3d work i would do the quadro =)

 

ok m8 i would buy a bairbone just add cpu and buy maybe two (if you are going sli) 580m's from a retailer with heatzink i think you would save some money there m8 since the 675m is the same gpu and you can always jump over to MVKtech and get the vbios altered so it excactly the same as a 675m

 

fractaluser why not just buy a desktop with nvidia gtx 680 or something instead?

A 675m now is a mid-high end card. A 7970m is nearly 2x as powerful generally while taking similar power consumption, I think the 7970m even takes less overall on idle but even full load on some stuff it should take less. m17x r4 have 7970m.

AMD Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

You should but a desktop gtx 670 instead or something midrange instead or wait for the mobile gtx 680m. A gtx660m more then holds its own against the 675m so you might as well get that.
Power Consumption : GeForce GTX 670 2 GB Review: Is It Already Time To Forget GTX 680?

 

Torment, thanks for the input, but my reseller in sweden has only the 675 so i took that one instead of the ati. I recon i'll do pretty good with it =)

nissangtr786, well i need a (s)laptop since i will be constantly moving and not having my "own place" to have that desktop so that kills most of my alternatives as well =/

 

hallo hur gar det da
im also swedish but with a American keyboard so
since we are in eu you can order with wit only two day dellivery
and no extra taxes

 

Haha där ser man, ännu en svensk som snöat in på clevo då =)

Haha well show me your shop then and i'll make the purchase on faktura pay on delivery heheh

 

They nerfed double precision performance even more than they did with fermi? I hate their market segregation strategies, they could try actually making some of their product rather than deliberately making others worse. NVIDIA Y U DO THIS?

 

dont know about my shop but here is a link to most retailers in eu
i bought my 485m's from china still with european taxes and shiping it was cheaper the if i bougt them in lets say USA with there low prices compared to sweden

japp clevo ar absolut best pa powerhouse maskiner

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/652403-clevo-resellers-european-union-v1.html

 

Torment78, that laptop is a beast of a laptop so much so its like a desktop in a laptop form factor.

However the new laptops with ivybridge 3920xm holds its own against the likes of the 990x as can be shown on notebookcheck apart from really heavily stressed applications. If I was you I would get a i7 3720qm with a 7970m and take 40% your electricity power consumption you currently need on your laptop.

 

yup your right about the the power consumpion
but its not wurth for me
if you would have sayed the new 270 coming that would be the one that i would go for .
if the 680m's are better then 7970m ill just upgrade for for two of those in this
then when i feel the cpu cant handle the prezure any more il go for the upgrade to Sandy Bridge E/2011 or if they come out with a Ivy Bridge E

 

What kind of applications that can heavily stress the laptop? Gaming?

 

Torment, aye i saw that list, though i've already put an order with pc-konsulten.se, a little big higher price than the rest but i recon its worth it since they are in sweden and its good to have warranty here

 

thats tru but when you get your baby recomend tweaking the vbios a little
like Ov the card so you get free rain over the max oc via software
what model was it you where buying you might have sayed but i cant remmember

 

I will for sure tweak it a bit at least, im no overclocker in that sense but i like to get the most out of my package =) I got the P170EM and i must say my distributor is being very nice to me =) I got the 1600mhz memory instead of the 1333MHz, so im really happy now =)

 

give me a shout if you need some pointers and /or help im on sweclockers as well under the nic Torment_78

 

cool mate! thanks for that, i'll hook up with you when i get the system

Skål!

 

Anybody knows launch date for GTX 680m?

 

July/August

 

When my shiny new laptop arrives i'm going to carry out some benchmarks on the 650M.

Hopefully NVIDIA will have official drivers available by then.

Hope it'll be able to play Metro: Last Light, Crysis 3 & Half Life 3 at native 768p.