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    Half-life 2: episode 2 low fps

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by sgtmatt1, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. sgtmatt1

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    A few days ago i bought the orange box (it's really great btw :p ) but this afternoon i finished episode one (i ran it maxed out without any problems)

    Now, i start up episode 2 and my fps is really LOW (like 30fps), in games like crysis 30 fps is very playable but for source engine games it's really laggy...

    Shouldn't i normally max out episode two with my 8600M GT GDDR3 ? (I also Oced and my fps was still to low)

    Anybody else has this problem with episode 2 ?
     
  2. Dman7

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    Well, I do know that Episode 2 is alot more graphically demanding than Episode 1 which would probably explain the drop in frames.
     
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    uhhh . . . fps is an objective measurement, that doesn't really make any sense?
     
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    First off, yes it is much more graphically demanding.

    Try turning off motion blur, AA, or lowering your resolution
     
  5. sgtmatt1

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    Motion blur is off and AA also an my res. is 1024x768
    I'm not gone change it to 800x600 lol :p
     
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    You should be doing better than that. I had ep 1 maxed out at native res on my G1S (some AA, AF, but not the whole way up though), and when I went to ep 2 I saw the difference, but all I needed to do was turn AA and AF down to 2x or 4x and decrease res (barely) to 1600x1000 and it was as smooth as ever.
     
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    I ran EP2 at high settings without AA and motion blur at 1440x900 on my 8600M GT DDR 512. :/
     
  8. sgtmatt1

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    wth :s
    That's WEIRD, it's really running bad on my G1S.

    What drivers are you guys using?
     
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    It might have been 1280x800, I can't really remember and I've uninstalled the game. I'm currently using the 192.21 drivers.
     
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    That shouldn't be happening. EP 2 load compared to ep 1 is negligible. Your running the same drivers and everything as with episode 1?
     
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    Your system should be able to handle it fine. CPU and RAM are more than the recommended. The GPU is just below the recommended (since they recommend a nVIDIA 7900). And even 30fps should be more than enough. Try to turn off HDR and see if anaything improves.
     
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    Get newer drivers and try the res at around 1280 x 800.

    I'm playing maxed out with 2xAA at that res on the DDR2 8600M (constant >30fps with v-sync on), you should be able to run at a higher res just as well as me...odd.
     
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    FPS is an objective measurement yes, but certain games are more playable than others at lower FPS. Crysis is playable at FPS in the 20s because of the post-processing done to the image, which adds motion blur and helps smooth everything out.

    @ original poster - as noted, you'll want to update your drivers to the latest ones. I like 169.04. Also, get rid of AA; AF does not have much of an impact on performance in my experience.
     
  15. sgtmatt1

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    I'm using the 169.21 driver (so that's one of the newest ones...) I'm playing on 1024x768 with no AA; AF ...

    Maybe i should go back to the 169.04 driver? I think this one is still the best performance wise

    EDIT:
    Also, this game is LESS demanding then games like Call of duty 4 (even cod4 i can play maxed out)...
    I will try to install the 169.04 driver again :) (the .04 driver gave me aero lag but the performance in games was great...) let's see what it gives
     
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    I just installed the 169.04 driver and still got identical the same fps (inside/when i look in the air = 60 fps), when looking normal (like when i look at Alex = 30 fps)

    60 fps is good, very playable but 30 fps is LAGGY.

    I got these results when OVERCLOCKING to 550/777 !

    I have also tried to turn down the settings like filtering to bilinair, shadows on medium, texture on detail on medium, vsync disabled, no AA, no HDR
    and i still get the same fps :confused:

    I checked the max_fps and it was on 130 also tried to change it to 60,...

    I even used the stuttering fixes thread


    So is this really normal?? ( I think not? :p )


    EDIT: I played hl2 episode one with maxed out settings and i have lagged NEVER (i had high fps) without OC !!
     
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    I just tried the NEWEST driver 169.25 ! and it is still the same :(
    When i put EVERYTHING on LOWEST settings i get 60fps !
    I even got more in hl2 episode one with EVERYTHING on HIGHEST settings

    :(

    Anybody got some advice??
     
  18. eleron911

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    Do you have Vsync on? check your nvidia control panel and set all according options to MAx Performance.
    Also,in game, disable HDR. It will give you a boost. Also, disable AA,since at higher resolutions it`s not very visible unless you`re an image freak that needs absolute perfection like me :D
    Post your results afterwards,and a screenshot of the settings you use in HL EP2.
     
  19. sgtmatt1

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    Ok, i will take some screenshots (i'll use fraps)
    But HDR is disabled, AA to,...
     
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    Haha lol
    Vsync was Forced-on in nvidia control panel, i selected let the application decide and get BIG fps increase :)
    Even HDR is on and i get 60-70 fps now

    Can you post a screenshot here of how the settings in nvidia control panel should be to get the best results? Maybe there are still some other options that are wrong here :)
     
  21. eleron911

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    Sure thing. The last 2 settings that are not visible are set for OFF (tripple buffering) and vertical sync force off.
     

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    [​IMG]

    Here is a screenshot of my settings now
    I get 70-80-90 fps
    :D

    But i think I'm gone lower some settings (like texture detail just to high,...) and take a higher resolution
     
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    As stated, setting the HDR (high dynamic range) to none(or lowest , whatever) will get you another increase in fps, paired with lowering texture detail to high. I don`t even remember seing very high over there,it might be my faulty ram(head memory :D)
     
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    It's only in the latest source games you can select very high (only texture detail) (episode 2, portal)

    But i have just put it to high :)
    Inside i get like 120fps and outside 70-80-90 (depends)
     
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    In my book, anything above 60 fps is pointless. I usually cap my fps to 65 ,if possible within the game (kinda like a vsync,with a determined limit : quake 3 is my most favourite example. The game runs at maximum possible details and resolution with over 400 fps. Which is useless. So I cap it to 65 :)
     
  26. The Forerunner

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    Yeah definitely lower textures to high and increase the resolution.