How Good Is the X1600

I already posted a thread on a related issue, but i wanted a thread thats more specific, can the ATI X1600 Handle high resolution top notch games like Oblivion, Counter Strike, Battlefeild 2 and more?

 

Counterstrike is no problem for the X1600. You can play it at native with very high settings with good framerates.
Battlefield 2 plays fine too. I saw a person on the forum who played BF2 on 1680*1050 with very high settings with good FPS.
Oblivion should also play great. 1680*1050 with Bloom on and high settings is no problem. Or 1280*800 with HDR on and medium settings. Both will play fine and look great!

Hope I helped you.

Charlie

 

hell no! what are u thinking, lol, that'll require something like the 7900GTX w/ 512mb RAM if u want to game at 1920x1200, the x1600 should play bf2 at medium res/settings, dunno, hope someone else can help u?

 

Well right now im looking at either the X1600 or the Geforce Go 7600 so im just getting opinions on wich one is the better buy and performs better.

 

The X1600 performs signifanctly better. The X1600 256 MB (dedicated) scores 4200 3dmark05 points while the 7600Go has 3600-3800.

The ATI would be a better choise.

Charlie

 

Add 500 marks in 3dm05 after OCing

 

The ati x1600 shyould play oblivion 800 x 600 on medium ok. It should play BF2 high res on high/max settings ok, and it should run counter strike absolutely maxed out

 

What are you talking about gethin!? Oblivion on 800*6001?

Man, the X1600 can play Oblivion at 1280*800 with HDR on and medium settings with good fps. Especially if you overclock it a bit.

Charlie

 

Maybe in the dungeons, but not in the open air, and in the city sections, no way. Have a look here:

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/06/15/3d_gaming_notebooks_2_uk/page6.html

Note that the x1600 gets frame rates of 7.5 and 5.5 fps on 1024 by 768without bloom or HDR. so im afraid im going to have to disagree with you Hitman

 

I would try and a find a good priced notebook with the X1800 instead but not many notebooks have the option of the X1800 built in that i can find.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=47549

This person is playing on a 2.0 Core Duo, 1 GB DDR (not even 2 GB), X1600 256 MB. At very high settings with HDR.

Charlie

 

Remember that Oblivion does not need 30+ FPS in order to be playable. It's a different type of game. 20-25 is perfectly fine.

As for the X1600 vs. Go7600 - both of them are great cards. The X1600 does better in Oblivion and CS:S, but generally they are very close in performance.

 

There seems to be some discrepancy between 3dmark05 benchmark scores. The TravelMate 8204 is able to score 4200 with its X1600 256 while a similarly spec'd Asus W3J only does a bit over 3900. In comparison, an Asus equivalent of the W3J w/ a 7600 Go also scores around 3900.

Is the X1600 really significantly better?

 

It is not. Get either card and have guranteed great performance.

 

hi
i counterstrike i jsut write net_graph3 and i cane se fps
but what shod i write in bf to see fps

 

You can download a program called FRAPS to see your FPS, works in all 3D games:
http://www.fraps.com/

 

its net_graph 3
you need that space for it to work

 

The x1600 is a very good card if you get the one with 256mb dedicated.

I can run:

BF2 everything maxed with 2xAA , but only with 2gbs of RAM. If you only have 1gb forget it.

Oblivion, textures set to high, view distance 100%, shadows toned down to about 25-30%, no grass, and other options around 25-50% i get 25-60fps and it looks great.

Americas Army, it totally maxed out.

FS2004, 90% maxed out.

 

Hitman u are totally wrong about the X1600 being better than the 7600. In almost EVERY gaming test carried out that compared the two cards, the 7600 was always ahead..and by a pretty big margin in some games!.wheras in others it was still in the lead but not by much.

The same went for the X700 vs the 6600.. The 6600 was Always ahead of the X700 in gaming tests.

Nvidias higher end cards are better than Ati's equivelants, however ATI's lower end cards preform better than Nvidias ones..
eg: X1300/X1400 are better than Geforce 7300/7400

I wish people would stop referring simply to 3D Mark results as its how the cards preform in actual gameplay that counts and you dont see people play 3D game tests for fun do you!? The 3D Mark test only give an indication of expected performance and thats it

 

And the only Notebook i have seen the X1800 in has been the 17inch Fujitsu Siemens.. which are pretty cheap but iv heard they arent available in the states...

 

compare the X1600 vs the ASUS a8jm 7600 512mb vc

which is better?

is the X1600 256 has some hypermemory which will boost up to 512?

 

Well look at it this way..
An X1600 256mb dedicated and 7600 256mb dedicated have pretty much the same performance. The 7600 is only marginally better over all (5-10% in some games) But this difference will for the most part not be noticable by most people.

So if an X1600 has more memory available to it, its performance will be slightly better(maybe).. as you have to consider that neither cards have enough horse power to really make any use of more than 256mb's..

 

HyperMemory doesn't make a scrap of difference, to put it bluntly. As long as the card (X1600/Go7600) has 256MB dedicated, don't worry.

 

Hey guys,
I am in a very tight position now, the x1600 256mb scores 4200 rougly, the go7600 256 scores 3500-3800 the go7600 512mb should score a tad higher in 3dmark05, regardelss of that why is it that the 7600 out performs the x1600 in 3dmark 06 by a significant margin. x1600 gets 1600-1790 and go7600 gets 2200+ atleast in the asus a8jm.

So my question is Which one is really better ?

Thanks

--AWP

 

In responce to the the x1800 inquiry- Alienware has a model with it (although it is 17in and the price is pretty bad).
And not that I am a vidio card guru or anything but I think what all this data shows is that it is really a toss upwhich card you get so mby one should look at the other specs of the compy as well as price to make a decision.

 

That just shows you how you SHOULD NOT pay any attention to 3D Marks scores!! The best thing they can do is give an indication of what performance to expect from a Graphics card.
Anyway the 7600 is a slightly better card as has been seen in proper "gaming tests" carried out to compare the two.
However you shouldnt really care about the difference between the two cards as it is pretty marginal and they are both excellant performers.

 

OMG!

3Dmarks essentially mean nothing of how a card will perform in games when the scores are so **** close!

 

EXACTLY!! That is the point i have been trying to make!..

 

the 7600 should come with 512 dedicated. as of writing this, there is no better card out there for a laptop that is 15" or under. if you want a better card you have to get a 17" or bigger.

the 7600 performs better in 3dmark06 at stock speeds. no doubts on that. however you shouldnt notice any difference between the two in games. having said there, some games like doom are optimised for nvidia whereas half life 2 is ATi's realm.

 

Thyat's funny cause X1600 in my W3j has 2200 in 3dm06 @ stock

 

NEITHER are significantly better. The only real world difference you would notice is in 3dmark scores. You're not going to be able to tell otherwise.

Regarding the x700/6600 - I've owned laptops with both and the performance was almost exactly the same in every game I have played.

 

Do you really think a 7600 @ 512mb will use all the VRAM?

Ha! No way, it may go a little above 256mb but no where near 512mb its not fast enough.

Oh and my X1600 256mb got 3926 in 3DMark05 @ Stock.

 

Wrong. Let me guess, you have a 7600?

 

My old desktop 9800xxl 128mb got 2985 in 3DMark05 @ Stock. Thanks to the new 6.8 catalyst version. I think that card was a really good one in old times!

 

Yeah I would say the 9800's were a good series of cards.

I have an 9600 Pro 256mb in my desktop with some massive OC'ing, clocks are at 500/245. The mem didnt OC much.

 

No i dont have either card actually. But i work with laptops on a day to day basis and i know for a FACT what i said is TRUE.
You just try to find me a gaming test that compared the X1600 and the 7600 that shoes the X1600 as being better overall. There isnt ANY! There is not much of a difference between the two cards as they are both excellent but the 7600 is ahead by a bit.

And some one else mentioned how the X700 and the 6600 were both the same..
Let me tell you the X700 was over rated and the 6600 was ahead of it in performance game tests by a SIGNIFICANT margin.
But most average gamers wouldnt notice the difference anyway.

 

hmmm, nvidia fanboy in the house?

why can't people just say that both cards of the same class are very good and leave it at that? some games run better with ati, some run better with nvidia and that's a fact.

 

There's no answer to 'which is the best card'. Yes, one card may be slightly faster in Game X, and the other in Game Y, but in reality, it doesn't make much of a difference. Both the Go7600/X1600 are fast chips, the end.

Correct-a-mundo.