How To Overclock ATI 6650M?

Any ideas? I got a Phenom II X4 @ 2.1Ghz Stock couple with Radeon HD 6650M @ 600/800 1.0v stock.

Does AMD GPU Clock Tool or MSI Afterburner support the 6000 series?
I also want to overclock the CPU, any software or method for doing that? Thanks everyone!

 

What laptop is this?

 

I'd really like to know as well, though I have a feeling that the title of the thread is a typo and it should say "6550M."

 

The 6650M is a true 6000 series GPU, with 480 shaders and DDR3 memory.

I don't know what it's being offered in though.

 

I haven't heard of a single laptop with it (and I doubt that the 6600M/6700M series will be used much at all with the cheaper 6500M series around, which was a mistake on AMD's part), which is why I think that the title is a typo.

 

Ah I see.

Yeah you are probably right.

 

My laptop is an Acer Aspire 7552G-6436. Bought it for $799.

Specs:
AMD Phenom II X4 N950 (2.1Ghz)
AMD Radeon HD 6650M
17.3" HD+ LED LCD
4GB DDR3 Memory
640GB HDD
DL DVD Drive

I ran Black Ops at 1600x900, Details set to Extra, AA is off, AF is 8x, Trilinear filtering, VSync Off. And the frame rate is flawless, no lag at all, which I'm pretty happy with. But if you set AA to 2x, it will drop the frame rate down a bit and I'll notice some lag. So i just play with AA off, and max resolution with everything else on high, graphics still look pretty damn good.

Anyway, so anything about overclocking this?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/487795-how-overclock-ati-5650-a.html

The 6650 shouldn't be fundamentally different.

 

In what country are you? I can't find that machine w/ 6650M anywhere...

Can you provide a link?

 

They are selling these on amazon with the specs indicated.

 

This laptop has some nice specs. I'm considering buying this one. However, I've been looking all over but there's been no review yet. So can you give me some of your opinions on this machine's pros and cons so far? Thnx a lot and sorry that I'm not answering your question.

 

Don't buy it, N950 is more or less N930 (just 0.1 GHz more core clock, so 5% faster), and the N930 with 5650 bottlenecked the 5650 to hell and back; the 6650 is quite a bit more powerful than the 5650 and would get bottlenecked even further. I had the N930 / 5650 Acer laptop late last year and returned it because it did so badly.

In retrospect, my current laptop which is i5 460M / 5650 can run most games at double or triple the framerates at maximum settings. Black Ops now runs at 50 fps stable even with 2x AA, compared to 20~40 fps (fluctuating) with 2x AA back with the AMD N930 / 5650. Same thing with practically every other remotely CPU-demanding game.

 

Thnks. I'm not familiar with AMD processors and I heard they're cheaper and quite equivalent in terms of gaming so I thought I would give them a try. Even so I had no idea even a quadcore phenom II would still bottleneck a middle class Gcard like 5650. I guess I'd just have to stick to Intel then

 

Yeah the AMD mobile CPUs are *miles* behind Intel mobile lineup in terms of performance as of these couple of years.

AMD desktop CPUs are much better competitors to Intel's in terms of price erformance.

 

I wonder if this wasn't a driver issue. Most games these days aren't very processor intensive (older games certainl used to be). There are a few new ones though. Shattered Horizon comes to mind. But in terms of running Black Ops or Call of Duty or other similar new FPS games. I don't see how an AMD processor could possibly bottleneck the GPU since the vast majority of work is being done by the GPU.

EDIT: I just did some research. The Intel i5-450m Processor scores 2769 on 3DMark06, and the Phenom II X4 920 BE scored: 3141. The AMD processor actually scored better than the Intel, at least at the gaming benchmarks. They traded off in other other categories with AMD winning some and Intel winning some.

 

I'm thinking about buying the same laptop... does the benchmark results in your edit mean that the Phenom II x4 N950 is not that bad? What do you think about this laptop for $600 out the door (very lightly used)?

 

I am very interested in a GPUZ screenshot of the 6650.

Can you get one for us?

 

I can get a screen shot... but of what? benchmark...?

 

Screenshot of GPU-Z, like this:

 

hi guys ive decided to join you on this forum.this is a very informative site and seems like a great resource for laptops.so according to the above posts about the quad and 6650m would i be better off getting a similar setup but have a phenom II dualcore for games instead,or even a triple-core?

 

Welcome! Quad core generally trumps dual core in pretty much everything. The dual cores may have a higher clock speed, but if the application utilizes all four cores, the quad core will own it. If it doesn't then the two cores utilized will just get turbo boosted. So get a tri or quad core = win-win.

I would also advise intel, it's just a lot easier to get feedback on it and since it is all that most people use, you'll find advice easy and forthcoming.

 

hey thank you very much!

 

Thank you. That is a heck of a deal for $799.

Please run some becnhmarks on it like 3dmark06 or in-game benchmarks like Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5 and Dirt 2 if you have time.

I think the 6650 is great. A big step up from the 5650.

But I worry about the lower quality screens prevalent on sub $1000 notebooks.

 

Be careful: AMD's quad-cores do not Turbo Boost. Thus, they will be superior to dual-cores if and only if the application is using three or four cores (depending on just how much faster the clock speed on the dual-cores is). Keeping in mind that the overwhelming majority of applications (including games) do not use 4 cores, you are probably better off with a tri or dual core AMD product.

Of course, this is not true of Intel because their quad-cores do Turbo Boost and they do it by a lot. That said, Intel is really in a different league for laptop processors: their dual-cores are better than AMD's quad-cores.

 

So far on AMD's specs of the Whistler chips it said it had 8 ROPs. It seems it's 16 in fact, which makes it 1/2 of Barts-Pro and coincides with Turks on desktop. This is exciting, the 6770M should be more or less on par with a GDDR5-5850M, despite the lower SP count it's Northern Islands architecture and it's clocked higher so it'll be close enough at least.

 

You could try the AMD GPU Clock Tool. I had some trouble overclocking my 6550M with MSI Afterburner (even the recent 2.1 beta 7), but the GPU Clock Tool works quite well.

 

I'll bet money, that a 6770M equipped machine never materializes, just like with the Mobility 5770.

 

I'd be grateful if someone benched it. 3dmark06, 11, vantage, etc.

 

I am hopeful that the 6650M will be in the new MBP.

I agree that a GDDR5 6670M will never materialize. Apart from the memory tech this chip should be a little demon.

 

I said hope.

 

I don't know. HP is going to have a GDDR5 Radeon in their new Pavilions, and that seems like a prime candidate.

 

looks like I was right in having some faith. The 6750 is even better than I thought.

 

Looks like I was probably right as well. Leaked drivers indicate that the new HP dv6 and dv7 will have the 6770M.

 

My notebook has the HD 6650M and I'm looking to overclock it..

The max. temp while gaming is around 66°c so i think i got plenty of headroom when it comes to temperature...

now what about volt-mods/clock ranges... etc

 

Oh ho ho you'll know what I mean if you have a laptop with a CPU like that. They score high in benchmarks but perform like c**p in games. The previous laptop I had (Acer AS5553G) with exact same specs except more RAM, and N930 instead of i5 460M, scored high in WEI for CPU than my current i5 processor, had the same ATI driver version, yet it ran EVERY GAME I tried disappointingly.

It's impossible to convince any of you unless you have two of these laptops side by side, fire up FRAPS, fire up some games, and see for yourself.




edit: think of it this way: most games run 90% of load on 2 cores. AMD CPU clock is maybe oh 3/4 speed of Intel CPU clock, clock-by-clock in raw performance. N930 = 2.0 GHz x 4, which in most games is effectively 2.0 x 2, which is (in Intel clock equivalent) 1.5 x 2. Also it doesn't have L3 cache at all.
Intel i5 460M will turbo, and go up to 2.8 GHz x 2, WITH L3 cache.

The difference causes the first case to bottleneck like hell, and second case to put bottleneck on GPU instead.

 

You could always swap in a N620 2.8ghz dual core. If your system has the cooling to handle a quad it should do nicely.

 

Hey guys i just got the acer aspire 5552g-7632 and have a question about updating the drivers for the 6650m graphics.i wasnt able to update the catalyst driver suite but was able to install the latest catalyst control center from ati site.when i try the driver suite it gives this message.it says ati catalyst mobilty cannot be downloaded due to incompatible hardware/software on your pc.your computer does not contain a proper graphics adapter.its version 11.2 and it came out in feburary.i just checked my driver and its from october 2010.what should i know about updating the card?through acer perhaps?

 

Wait till next driver release, i dont think the current drivers support the 66xx series yet.

 

Yeah I remember you told me about that a few months ago, it felt like too much of a hassle and I returned the laptop, got a new (sig) laptop at the same price and did not look back. It costed less than the original laptop + one of those AMD CPUs and saved me plenty of headache with 1) installation, 2) possibility of failure, and 3) warranty void.

 

Acer are usually pretty good, if you put the original CPU back in they would not mind.

The price on ebay for the CPU is actually quite low. But it is a hassle.

 

ok thanks pretty good benchmarks so far with bad company 2 and crysis 2 and so forth look forward to the next driver thanks again.

 

Hey guys i have a youtube account up now with game benchmarks for the Acer Aspire AS5552G-7632.go check it out! YouTube - EddieShreddie's Channel

 

Hi im new to the forums. I don't mean to necro post on this thing but I am also wondering how to over clock the 6650M. I was wondering what program to use and what some bench marks are. (I couldn't find bench marks on the previous link) my laptop is the Acer Aspire 5552G-7632.

Any help on how to over clock would be appreciated.

 

Have you tried MSI afterburner?

 

using msi afterburner; even after enabling unofficial overclocking would not let me put it higher than stock speeds.

 

No one knows how to go about overclocking the 6650M?

 

Are you sure you set the unofficial overclocking terms right? MSI changed the unlock mechanism for Version 2.20.

 

what exactly should be changed? and how? (this is the default afterburner .cfg file)

 

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