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    How come my 8400 is faster than the i7 extreme?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by nizzy1115, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. nizzy1115

    nizzy1115 Notebook Prophet

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    I have yet to oc the gpu...but forget about that. Look at the cpu scores. How can this be?
     
  2. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    isnt that a desktop system at best i would think this belongs in the off topic forum

    have you run it a couple of times to see if you get the same score or near to it again?
    i heard that some times you can run it without changing anything and get different scores
     
  3. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    They disabled PhysX on their NVidia GPU, you didn't.

    http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/731/3dmark_vantage_cpu.jpg

    The same QX9770 CPU was used for all tests, only difference being PhysX.

    It's basically bull **** because PhysX does not accelerate your gaming, CPU, or GPU performance by 300%.

    You might get better responses over at Desktopreview in the future.
     
  4. nizzy1115

    nizzy1115 Notebook Prophet

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    i hear crickets chirping when i go there. i figured someone might know quickly here.
     
  5. Tony_A

    Tony_A Notebook Evangelist

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    As another poster said, it has to do with enabling physx.

    With phisX on, my i7 gets over 50K in the CPU portion of Vantage, and it's running almost 1Ghz slower than the one in your link.
     
  6. SemiGamer

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    Yeah desktopreview is either not as populated or people just don't like to reply so basically its.
    If you post here for desktop related questions, you'll get answers, but they might not as be as accurate as if you would've waited for someone to reply on desktopreview.com :)
     
  7. Jlbrightbill

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    People definitely reply over there, but it's mostly me, angelicvoices, Sprint, K-Tron, Fittersman, and Iceman that do all the actual replying.
     
  8. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i said it once ill say it again the place is a GRAVEYARD!

    yeah something is fishy with your situation though.
     
  9. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    Just because there aren't a lot of new posts does not mean it's a graveyard.

    There are 6 or 7 people that regularly use it and answer questions promptly, it's just that people think nobody does so they don't post. Recurring cycle.
     
  10. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Im always there just I dont have the time for in depth reply all the time. The more people carry the attitude that its a graveyard the harder it will ever be for it to pick up.

    Though it has already come a long way from when it opened.
     
  11. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    when exactly did desktopreviews open?
     
  12. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    It's probably the PhysX.

    Right now, nVidia is at a major disadvantage with PhysX to be honest. More game developers are using Havok physics over PhysX and a lot of features in current and older games that utilized PhysX in someway have either been updated with the Havok physics API, or have been dropped completely. The number of PhysX only servers in UT3 have dwindled to almost none (there is still one server that I see from time to time that is PhysX only). And now with ATi giving nVidia some real competition for a change, it's going to be harder for nVidia to monopolize game developers and push PhysX.

    Basically PhysX offers nothing substantial or revolutionary in terms of gameplay. What will really determine the fate of PhysX is how many upcoming games will support the API and integrate it into its gameplay (as opposed for just decoration) and how many of those games would be worth buying.
     
  13. unknown555525

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    As others have said, it's because of PhysX, my PC with an 8800GT/E6320 2.3GHz gets 24000 cpu score with PhysX on, and with physX off it gets 4187 CPU score. Because PhysX is NOT a standard, it should never have been a mandatory part in the main score for a commercial graphics benchmarking tool, and that's why vantage sucks.

    I'd also post alot more in desktopreview, but it takes people to start posting to get a decent sized community of people talking. If everyone keeps saying it's a graveyard over there and doesn't even bother to post, then it always will be, if people just go over there and start making some topics mabe more people will come over to it as well. I'm sure this forum started with hardly anyone several years ago as well.