How good is an Intel GMA 4500 video card for gaming?

yeah shure i agree. But the graphic in that game is similar to the graphic in the games that follow Windows OS
aaaaand i quote
"# Microsoft® Windows® XP
# PC with 1.4 GHz equivalent or higher processor
# 256 MB of system RAM
# 2 GB available hard disk space
# 32x speed or faster CD-ROM drive
# 64 MB video card with support for hardware transformation and lighting required"

lolz

 

Whatever. I think the GPU is a joke

Pardon me

 

There is one other thing - but I think its irrelevant here - battery life - the Intel cards get long battery life.

 

whatever the case , intel GPU's are not for gaming.. they're for office work and nothing much more.. they can play old games but if u want to play top of the line games , u need a top of the line dedicated ATI or NVDIA GPU...

 

I know this thread is a year old, but I don't intentionally game on mine, but I do play AOE3 (+ all expansions) & C&C - The First Decade with no problems.

Otherwise I hit up the Xbox/PS3. These two games, for me, are classic, and I doubt i'll ever stop playing them.

If I wanted to really game, I'd use the desktop, but I spend a good amount of time on my laptop.



The graphics card wasn't a deal breaker for me. I knew what I was getting before I purchased it.

 

I have an HP DV4 with the GMA 4500MHD and it can play F.E.A.R. 2, Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 1 AND 2, and Red Faction: Guerrilla. These are all very graphically intense games. However, I have a Core 2 Duo T9400 2.53ghz CPU and 4gb DDR3 1066mhz RAM so I think thats why I am able to play these games at a decent frame rate.

 

depends on what u call playable framerates.. 20-25 is not very playable... also what details can u play on? Super low? Bottomline is , 4500MHD is not a gaming GPU...

 

20-25 is fine for me... that's the FPS i get in Dirt 2 with most things High and a few Ultra

 

FYI - 15-20 is VERY playable, depending on what type of game it is.

On AOE3, I get between 15-20FPS, according to Fraps. And this is with my screen's resolution, and settings on "very high" to "ultra". I get better FPS by selecting refresh rate from 59hz to 60hz. And I also get better FPS by selecting "high", but IMO the difference from 15-20, to 20-25 is not noticeable.


And there's absolutely no difference from 20 to 40, (laptop to desktop) on these types of games.

Would I play COD-MW2? No. Would I play other high-end games like Crysis, etc.? Nope. But it's nice to be able to play these games on my laptop, because it kills time, and I didn't have to pay any additional premium to do so. So I'm happy.


You're right though, it's not a gaming GPU. But that's not why I bought it.

 

WHY the hell did you buy a good cpu and ram but the worst GPU ever? Does not compute

 

It does if you have no use for a good GPU

I have a T9300, 4GB or RAM and a X3100 (and a switchable 8400M GS that I never use)

If you need your laptop for Mathematics you could pretty much live without a GPU and if you do a lot of Photoshopping, so far the GPU isn't that important.

I suppose he/she didn't primarily buy the laptop for gaming.

 

A lot of things don't compute. Like questioning why someone wants to spend their money.

 

But in my world you dont buy a ford and replace the V12 engine to a V6.
His GPU is gamer friendly, his RAM is gamer friendly.
And who the hell use their computer to do only mathematics anyway?
And who the hell play their games with ultra super duper crappy low details?
And who the hell dont negotiate with themselves and instead of buying a good CPU/RAM and crappy GPU, pick a lappy with decent CPU/RAM and a decent GPU?

Sorry about all the "hell" but my english skills are limited

 

True. I just want to know why he picked that setup

 

I REALLY want to know why it matters so much to you.

 

I haven't got a single game on my laptop at the moment - I am a student and 20 years old - there go

 

Ugh, Cloudfire - we don't live in "your" world.. sorry.

 

on a scale of 1 to 10, being absolutely reasonable:

1.

for gaming shoot for at LEAST a 9400m or better from the nvidia side, or comparable parts from ATI. stay away from intel.

 

but dude D), dgw2jr just said he played FEAR, COD etc, thats why i asked who in their right minds would play games in crappy details.
But yeah i agree that some people use their computer at work or school, but i still dont get why they purchase 4GB RAM and a very fast CPU if they dont do some heavy duty tasks. And puchase a bad GPU at the same time.

 

Shure you do. You live on the same godforsaken earth as me

Because im curious

 

Um, ever think it came with the laptop? I didn't have a say, if I wanted 4GB, 3GB or 2GB.

 

Yeaaah but, i rather be looking for a different notebook than that if i were him

 

Anyways im bored. EOD from my part

 

That's the point. Your NOT him. If he likes what he has, and is happy, why crash the party?

 

Hmm, in summer with nothing else to do I have run Age of Empires 3 on it - but every reinstal I don't isntal a single game on it - and its Vista Business without the Windows games.

Its people who just want to use games to pass time in for example the holiday where you have 3 months of boredom...or was it 4?

The other advantage of Intel graphics cards versus dedicated ones is batter life.
Unless you want to carry a generator around a dedicated card is pointless for mobility - Intel cards are far more energy efficient.

And in terms of graphics quality...on my old laptop, on the 910/915 "Thing" not sure what its exact name is - I played Empire Earth 1 & 2 on an integrated graphics card and it worked well - not everybody requires the best settings - not if its more a way of wasting time.

 

With the latest drivers, 4gb ram and an overclocked FSB this GPU would be ok for games that are old (2006 and older).

 

If that were the case i wouldnt have picked the T9400 CPU
And a geforce 9400M GS has a power consumption of 12 watt which i think is almost similar to what the GMA 4500 use. So he could still have a good battery life with the 9400M GPU

 

What's wrong with a T9400? I have a T9300 - on powersaver mode it gets locked in the lowest multiplier and I have a very energy efficient CPU - which is still poweful.

Cards - well, I know that for powersaving I switch to 16Bit and 40Hz too... so I can't quite comment here.

But the questions is, which is better the low end NVidia or the Intel - at least Inetl cards don't self destruct like the recent 8 series...

 

lol are you serious? Most CPUs will use little energy when on powersaver mode. If youre gonna save power T9400 is NOT the right CPU.

Yeah Nvidia have made many bad cards during the latest years. But that was because of some manufactor issue i believe.
BTW: are you a fanboy? It strikes me like you are trying to defend GMA for some strange reason....

 

Good question... I do like the Intel cards as I never had use for a more powerful cards and can't understand gamers - maybe that's why

And on the T9400 - well, you said it yourself - any CPU on powersaver will use little energy.

Take me - if I go on holiday I want to be able to do my Photo Editing - its RAW files - I have a T9300 in my 13,3" laptop - and I could do with a more powerful CPU - at the same time I want to have a long battery life - in Powersaver mode I can get about 4 hours out of and 80% charge - on a 1,5 years old battery with 7,2% wear.

 

Agreed....

 

think netbook gaming, the games i play on my laptop now are like

plants vs zombies
build a lot
be rich
monkey island
gta san andreas n vice city
world of goo
team fortress 2

and Warcraft3 frozen throne

Intel 4500 is great also for online gaming like, MU online, Ragnarok, Dark moon, even WoW but not on max graphics. Guild Wars. and great for watching HULU and online videos, i know some netbooks struggle playing flash in browsers.

dont expect high end games

 

That doesn't sound right at all. That dead asus in my sig ran oblivion fine on med settings and fallout 3 decent on low settings with a few things turned up to med. And I know that a HD4500 would mop the floor with a 6800go...

Maybe u mean a gma4500?

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-4500MHD-GMA-X4500MHD.9883.0.html

From this review it appears that the X4500 is a poor choice to consider for gaming.

 

On par with the 7300 and 7200 from Nvidia.... i.e. nothing wrong with it.

Its not a gaming graphics card - but will play a few games.

 

Why don't you simply go to this section and ask people what's the best choice for your budget ? (if it hasn't already been posted...)

 

The HD4500 is the GMA4500, just the "HD" version of it(the one equipped to handle HD decoding). Idk if you were thinking of the ATI HD45xx series or something(even then, there's no HD45 00, only the HD45 30 and the HD45 70), but I'm talking about the Intel one.

Back to topic the GMA4500HD(so we don't get confused) isn't for gaming, but it'll handle older and less demanding games fine. Don't expect to play anything recent, but if you're a person who likes playing older or light games, it's just fine.

 

It is for gaming. It isn't for graphically intense games.

I think this has been put to rest; "Ok for older games" , "not recommended for 'new' games".

 

That depends how you define "gaming" but I won't get into it too much as it's just semantics.

Let's leave it at "ok for older and less demanding games"(considering there are recent games which aren't demanding at all I won't classify it purely in regards to time).

 

I'm sorry if i revieve a dead thread, but on my search across the internet i stumbled upon this thread, which seems to be a reliable source of information regarding the intel gma 4500.
the problem is, that santa clause shoved some money down my chimney and now i am eager to spend it. on a laptop. but i dont need a super-ultra-high-end-gaming-machine, that's what my desktop-pc is for, i need more like an office-laptop. to do ... office-stuff... whatever.
so i begann looking for good-looking, not-so-expensive laptops, and nearly every notebook in my oh-yeah-that-price-is-affordable-range (~400-450€ seems to use the gma4500.
whatever, long story short:
if i purchase a notebook with said graphiccard, a dualcore at ~2,1ghz, ~3gig ram, will i be able to run morrowind and thief 3: deadly shadows?
these two games and perhaps arcanum are the only ones i'd use the laptop for, but nowhere is an answer to be found. maybe you can help me?
thanks in advance!

 

No, the 4500MHD is not fast as the 7200/7300 or the 6800 Go. Both the X3100 and the X4500HD/4500MHD has very poor bandwidth saving features. That's why there are games that perform semi-decent, but others that causes it to fall totally flat on its face. Even older games too, like Civ 4 and AoE3.

(There is a difference between X4500HD and 4500MHD. The X4500HD is clocked at 800MHz and 4500MHD runs at measly 533MHz. The ROP clocks are also proportionately different, meaning different fill rates)

In contrast, the GMA HD Graphics in the Arrandale/Clarkdale has decent bandwidth saving features along with the usual enhancements that comes along every generation.

 

Okay I'm planning on buying an Asus from Best Buy. It's SKU 9700741 on www.bestbuy.com
I can't link it, doesn't wanna work. Anyway, it has an Intel Accelerator 4500M, that's the same thing right? I want to buy it but the GPU has me worried (until I saw this thread). I'm not gonna play any new games, but I want to play AOE3 and some older strategy games. Rise of Nations, Empire Earth, etc.

Would I be able to? Thanks a lot guys.

 

Old topic is...extremely old?

 

What's your point? I'd rather renew a month old topic than make a completely new one and get flamed for that one too. This really was a no win situation.

Anyway, do you know?
Also, that laptop I wanna get apparently IS a dual core. I asked the guy at the store and him and the onscreen description said it was. Online doesn't say it is though.

[edit]Oh and I know the thread is older than a month, but the last post wasn't that long ago.

 

go for ATI or nvidia just to be safe, dont buy that laptop!

 

Why not? All the specs are amazing, it's just the video card that sucks.
I don't use my computer for gaming now anyway, I use my 360 for that. But I wouldn't mind being able to play some cool strategy games I can't play on my current PC.
Here's my specs:
800MHZ Processor
256MB RAM
40GB HDD
Nvidia Geforce MX 420

Another question: is that integrated 4500m better than my crappy nvidia card? Thanks guys. Oh yeah, another thing. I only want to spend around 600 dollars for a laptop, until I get a better job. Then I'll buy a nice gaming laptop if I need to and give this one to my girlfriend.

 

Oh wow, that is old........the Asus you mentioned should be ok for older games, but you may want to consider a laptop with Intel's new HD Graphics Accelerator. It in turn wipes the floor with the x/HD 4500 and even beats ATi's own Radeon 3200 and 4200 in some cases. What makes it more interesting is that newer laptops with the higher end Core i5 processors have the GPU integrated into the CPU die, so you're getting quite a decent multimedia centric GPU with some limited gaming capabilities and a pretty good dual core CPU to boot. Big problem is that many of these new i5 equipped computers are a bit pricey. I really want one of the new Sony CW refresh laptops with an i5 and a Geforce GT330M, they look good, and are a nice form factor but with an i5 and the GT330M it's at least $900........but I don't need a laptop........

 

Haha yeah this computer is about 10 years old. The only games I play on it are Age of Empires 2 or Roller Coaster Tycoon. Stuff like that.

I only have a certain amount of money to spend. Are you saying the Asus would work well for AOE3?
The new HD accelerator is the 4500HD or whatever right? Same name just with HD on the end? The reason I want this one is because I don't need a gaming computer, just one that can handle some old games. I saw it in the store and everything was perfect. It had an awesome keyboard, nice size screen etc.

 

The GMA4500 can handle AoE3, I've tried it. AoE3 is a RTS and its graphics aren't too high end so the CPU will largely affect performance when lots of units appear on the map.

 

You can play Age of Empires 3 on an X3100 - and before anybody says you can't, yes you can, my Vaio does just that

(Or did in summer 09, 08 haven't played it since)