How many new games has drm ruined for you so far?

As the title suggests how many new game releases has drm ruined for you thus far?

For me the main thing is, i am barely in an area with a good stable connection, the university's wifi blocks steam so cant do much there either. So basically all the games meant to be played single player I will not be able to play because I have to be online to play them. Ironic that a game meant to played single player cannot be played ..... so now a new category has been added to the gaming franchise. Enter the world of M.O.S.P / Massive Online Single Player to be clean about what to call it.

*sigh

I understand that yes, as long as you have an internet connection that is stable and strong enough then everything is fine, same game play and all, but that is really for those who are not restricted by the aforementioned constraints. So the question now becomes, never be able to play a new title again or pirate?

 

DRM is not to blame.

The one to blame are the pirates.

So it should be "how many games have pirates ruined for you so far."

 

lol nice, makes sense

 

None, DRM has little to do with your problem either. You should ask your uni admins to open the steam ports (55305? don't remember the exact port) and explain why - you'd be surprised how far asking nicely can get you.

 

None. I'll just pirate and then crack the games featuring that DRM that I want to play.

 

It would seem so except DRM of any kind hasn't stopped pirates. It has only ever affected legitimate users. So how is it that we can blame pirates when the publishers who insist upon DRM know for a fact that it has little or no effect on piracy? In fact, it appears to encourage piracy.

 

And now go back to warez forum, where your place is...

 

If people can't find legitimate ways to get content they really want, they will always find other ways. Oddly, I think I've had more DRM problems because I lost the original CD than any of the newer online DRMs, though I avoid buying any game with strict DRM like Spore or many of the others. I always like Paradox games cause they're excellent about DRM.

 

assassins creed 2 and silent hunter 5
i really wanted to get those games

 

So far every game that requires you to connect to the internet due to DRM is unplayable for me because I prefer single player games and my gaming PC is not connected to the internet. Now I could connect my gaming PC to the internet but to me it is the principle of it. I feel like I should not be punished because some people are just outright thieves!

Edit: Messed up a tag.

 

i also wanted to get wings of prey but it has that 3 activation limit and its also requires you to lg into yuplay

 

My favorite DRM is the one used in EA Sports FIFA Manager 09. It requires an internet connection while installing. Once it does you're good to go. You no longer need the CD. When you uninstall it the game automatically deactivates itself from the EA server so you can install it on another computer.

I remember the good 'ol days where you had to look up a random word in the manual and enter it before playing.

 

I wanted to buy that game too as well as Rise of Flight but I refuse to out of principal. I refuse to buy anymore Flight Sims from Eagle Dynamics because of intrusive pain in the butt DRM.

 

Your gaming PC isn't connected to the Internet? Why not?

How many games has DRM ruined for me? Let me count... 1... 2... wait, no. The answer is: none!

The only people who are seriously going to be affected by this are people who want to play their single-player games while on the move. Say... while on a plane, and the like. In which case, well... -shrug-

If having to get a DS or PSP or (gasp) a book just so I have something to do while in-flight means that I get to enjoy high-quality games like AC2, then I'm up for it.

 

Agreed.

It hasn't ruined any games for me, and I own Assassins Creed 2, and Splinter Cell Conviction. (Great games by the way)

I am always connected to the internet, and the only way I see it affecting me is if I'm vacationing where there is no internet. (But honestly, how many times have you gone on a vacation and there isn't some kind of internet somewhere? You can even buy a plan from your cell phone provider and get internet.)

 

Do you also leave the door open when you use the bathroom? Why do you trust the publishers of games to have so much access and control over your things?

DRM has ruined many games for me. I was actually excited about Spore. But the problem is that the DRM is basically providing an inferior product for what people can get for free. And people STILL buy the legitimate product.

Pirates are not to blame. They will exist even if you only charge a dollar for your game. The only thing you can do is count them as advertising, and give people a real reason to buy your game. Right now, the industry is losing because they're making crappy games that screw up people's computers in the name of "security", and more and more people are learning that you can play that cool game without all the instability and compatibility issues DRM introduces. I'm sorry, there are many legitimate reasons for using Daemon Tools, and some game won't play because I have that installed? That's the real crime. They take my money for a product that won't work, and then won't give me a refund because the box is opened. Not really fair, is it?

 

How many games' DRM has given me direct issues? Only one, and it's from 2003 (Halo PC). I own a legitimate key for the game, but my CD has long been scratched beyond repair. No biggie, I'll download a new one and use my same key because there's no install limit. To this day, a game from 2003 somehow recognizes the difference between my legit CD and three different disc images I've downloaded and mounted. I have to install the game and then replace the entire Halo folder with the one I copied off of my old computer from 2003 (which is updated to the latest version which removes the disc check) every time I've needed to put it on another computer.

 

theyve actually taken out the need for a permanent internet connection for rise of flight.
i wanted this game too but it only comes with 4 flyable planes and you pay 7+usd for each extra plane . thats a bit too steep imho

 

I see what you mean, and I'm not saying I like DRM or that I support it (even though I bought the game). I don't like a lot of things company's do with their products, but if I like the product enough, I will but it because I want to play/use it.

 

None for me... Going to play Assassin's Creed 2 right now. XD

 

Though really, if you're on vacation... stop playing games and start sightseeing XD

Absolutely.

 

Not everyone lives in a place with a good, stable internet connection. We don't all live in the developed world (or whatever politically correct term people use these days), you know.

 

So far none. Only a couple of games (old) for which I had to download the updated DRM drivers, the Tages DRM if I remember correctly.

I am sure none in these forums will have any issue with this MOSP type of games, but as stated previously it is out of principle that I won't support such kind measures where the regular consumer is not respected.

 

We will now take away all your civil liberties, we will monitor you 24/7, and you have no right of speech, for the good of security, if you are not happy about it, blame it on the terrorists.

Sounds familiar to me, like as though it's in Germany, sometime 60-70 years ago.

 

I'm glad they listened and removed the permanent IC, but yeah only getting 4 planes is another bad decision by the developer or publisher.

Their Wings of Prey looks equally cool. OTOH I bought OFF Phase 3 which is even better than Rise of Flight.

 

Just think companies should appreciate and be grateful when some moron is willing to pay $50 for DX9 console port that runs worse than DX10 Crysis.

But I suppose these morons are used to it. Maybe when they bought a car, the dealer said, oh thank you so much for your purchase, and to show our appreciation your car can only use fuel from our dealerships and the closes one to you is 20 miles away. Please enjoy your car. Oh no no, not all cars are like this, this is just our special way to thank you for supporting us.

I haven't been affected as I just don't support these types of DRM.

 

You and I have been down this road before...

And you thoroughly shamed me and I deserved it...one of the most insightful responses in another thread...I spent the remainder of the week rethinking my position about 'digital' privacy...

However, in response to the original question...

DRM has ruined 0 games for me...but I did not buy Assassin's Creed 2 (have the first one installed) or Silent Hunter 5 (have 3 and 4 installed) due to the DRM...

I do run Alcohol (no offense to Daemon Tools) but that's so I can leave all my optical media at home...and out of the loooong laundry list of games installed on my m1710, I have had no problems...but that's me...

And regardless of the effect on me of DRM, your point remains valid...who is looking out for the consumers' Digital Rights?...Digital Rights Management, if needed or deemed useful, should protect the consumer as well as the publisher/developer...unfortunately, right now, the end consumer has very few, if any, digital 'rights'...

 

well my really late response goes to show that yea internet for me is kinda of limited. right now i am over my gf's house why i have access now, at home there is internet but i am restricted from it most times (uncle's >_<), and at school the internet blocks out steam, so yea i get the short end of the stick alot.

Used to have my own nets living on my own but thats a place i would not like to venture into.

so yes back on topic, drm has made pirates become even more crack happy, while the general honest consensus becoming upset, except for those that live in the world of constant, stable, above 56k (still find that hard to believe that 56k is good enough) internet connection. and for those with 56k modems could never be dsl, how is that lag working out for you when it comes to saving. imagine if you net was to cut out right after some really hard mission with your isp and because there wasn't a save point until you finished.....yeah that would kinda suck.

but at least steam enables you to can play for the most part all the games i would like without having to be connected to steam. guess i will be buying that codemasters racing pack after all. Hope test drive unlimited 2 doesnt use drm or else that gonna kill all my plans already i have for starting a club. Blizzard don't use drm on diablo 3 i beg you and call of duty:black ops, go back to the dedicated servers for pcs please!!!!!!!

some of this post may make no sense lol. twas rushed

 

DRM ruined Silent Hunter 5 for me. I was just about to buy it when read about the crazy DRM they implemented - so i bought Call of Pripyat and BF2 Complete Collection instead.

 

I've purchased 2 games with DRM that have had issues because of it, but I wouldn't say ruined. Silent Hunter 5 was annoying during the initial release when their servers were attacked but otherwise that hasn't been an issue with that game.

C&C 4 was really annoying initially since it sometimes determined that I'd lost my internet for a millionth of a second and would throw away the 30 minutes of progress I just made and force me to start over. Sure, I could keep playing the mission but I wanted the XP so I could try new units. Now that they've patched the DRM, it's nowhere near as picky about the internet connection.

 

The only thing DRM has ruined are the potential in lost sales from purchases I and others had planned in the near future. I was planning on buying Assasins Creed 2, Splinter Cell Conviction and a few other titles until I heard about their new DRM.

For anyone who says there is no problem with the DRM because they have a constant internet connection, maybe they would also have no problem with being under 24/7 house arrest by armed assailants because they never leave their bedroom anyway.

 

Well, Civ V was just announced to use Steamworks so I guess that's 1 for me.

 

Halo 1.08 patch.

 

I realize 1.08 and 1.09 don't require the CD, however my issue has always been running it for the first time in order to download that and install it. While I have a legit key, neither a burned CD or an ISO mounted with either PowerISO or Alcohol 120 gets recognized to allow the unpatched game to run for the first time.

If you could direct me to a stand-alone download of the 1.09 patch, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Syberia: Download Halo: Combat Evolved Patch 1.09 - This is the latest patch for the game Halo: Combat Evolved - Softpedia

DRM is absolutely ineffective, but well. What other way is there to dissuade piracy...

 

I have that game. The DRM software bugged on me, and ended up not being able to activate it, and side note, also had no activations left, I send then a well written hate mail, but to my surprise, they actually fixed the problem for me, in a few hours. They also give you as many activation keys as you want by just sending them your CD key.

I hate they principle and the whole DRM crap, but the experience was a lot less painfull than I thought (and no drm is gonna stop me from playing Wings of Prey on eyefinity )

 

actually as long as you own the original game using a crack is perfectly legal, its what i do to get around drm

 

what about that yuplay login nonsense?
you have to be on steam and you still have to login into yuplay to play the game? plus the 3 activation limit?
it seems all too much for me. i have the demo of this game and i was really thinking of getting it until i ht the forums and saw all these requirements.

 

Oblivion was almost ruined for me, thanks to the DRM throwing a hissy fit over legitimate CD burning and Virtual mounting software. I say "almost", because I manually circumvented it. Which would be illegal, if I lived in a country with draconian anti-circumvention laws.

A recently purchased DiRT2 is also another one. Bought on Steam (for a good deal, luckily...), installs SecuROM, requires a GFWL registration and sign-in (for no useful benefit to me). That's three layers of memory hogging DRM for a game I paid good, legitimate money for. I put up with Steam because it has a large old-game catalog, good price deals, and is mostly unobtrusive. SecuROM has already been brutalized (this is the third game that has forced me to murder it). As for GFWL, I'm killing that SOB as soon as I can find a crack.

 

If people can't find legitimate ways to get content they really want, they will always find other ways. Oddly, I think I've had more DRM problems because I lost the original CD than any of the newer online DRMs, though I avoid buying any game with strict DRM like Spore or many of the others. I always like Paradox games cause they're excellent about DRM.

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If i buy a game i want to be able to play offline when i am on vacation without internet connection and i do not want to hassle with gamediscs in the drive. They clearly need to come up with a better drm solution than whats available now. Windows activation (online or phone) works fine for me and i wouldn't hesitate to buy a game that has the same drm scheme.

 

I recently got GTA IV. It's a great game with sensible DRM. Nice simple online activation. Assassins Creed 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction HAVE been ruined for me by DRM though, as I don't have a constant web connection. If I want wifi I have to stand at my window and leech my neighbors connection. If I just wanna check the forums or something my 3GS is fine for that. I usually tend to not DL games for more than seeing how they run on my system before I buy them, but in the case of AC2 and SCC I am very tempted to DL a cracked version; just haven't decided yet. I think publishers need to think about their DRM though. Having a constant web connection to play a SINGLE PLAYER game is completly contradictory of itself. If I want to play a game where I have to be online I'll play BF2 or something. I'm not going to buy something where I have to be online to play by myself.

 

assassin's creed brotherhood.
ubisoft promised to remove drm, yet they release another game with it.
go skidrow~