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    How to stop horizontal image tearing?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by miscolobo, May 31, 2008.

  1. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    Hey guys, once again i have a new problem lol.

    I noticed that i dont have as much smoke lag with Vsync Off in CS source.

    However, with Vsync OFF i get lots of image tearing and its annoying.

    i tried capping my FPS to 60 but it still doesnt help.

    Is there any other advice i coudl get?
     
  2. Lord Egregious

    Lord Egregious Notebook Evangelist

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    I like to keep Vsync on because i absolutely hate tearing. Did you try to lower the setting that maybe controls the detail of the smoke? I forget which one it is but I hear that the pros turn it to low so then they can see through the smoke easier. That way you can have vsync and no smoke slowdown.
     
  3. eleron911

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    Simple, turn VSYNC on.
    But it will drastically drop performance,so be prepared to lower some details and resolution.
    Also, drivers pay a great deal in this regard, the newer 175.70 are among the best ones and mostly remove the tearing.
     
  4. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    What detail do i turn down to turn off smoke
     
  5. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I don`t think you can, but you can lower the details for the game itself.
    Should be under Texture detail (and shadow details if the game is similar to at least HL2 EP1).
     
  6. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    Is there any other option other than enabling Vsync?
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Other than using VSYNC or changing video drivers?
    Nope.

    Use my guide if you`re not sure about updating drivers.
     
  8. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Vsync is awesome. I can't play most FPS games without it, otherwise the tearing kills me.

    What you are now trying to do is get the average FPS to jump up to around 60 so it averages around that instead of 30FPS or 15FPS. You are probably hovering at 40 or 45, so it opts for 30FPS or below.
     
  9. conzy

    conzy Notebook Guru

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    V-sync is horrible and causes huge mouse lag and generally makes games "feel" wrong...

    You shouldn't experience any tearing if you can maintain a minimum framerate that is greater than your refresh rate, but in my experience it should be above your refresh rate... I found when refresh rate and fps are similar tearing occurs the most...

    I dont know if your card will be able to maintain the 80fps or so necessary but try reducing graphical quality and use the "fps_max 80" command
     
  10. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    More like 60, since that`s the most common refresh rate for LCDs.
    And VSync is not awfull,it just renders all fps averaged better,with less or no spikes *min/max*.
     
  11. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    So my avg fps should always be above 60? or below 60? cuz 60 is my refresh rate
     
  12. xystus

    xystus Notebook Consultant

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    Ehm.. I'm sure those drivers are great for your rig - but they were horrible on my M1530 with 8600m GT. I recommand the 174.31 official Dell drivers - give me the best performance.

    I always turn Vsync off - although Vsync combined with forced tripple buffering can work wonders.. give i a try.
     
  13. conzy

    conzy Notebook Guru

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    Yeah I heard Vsync can work with triple buffering, You can force it on with Rivatuner afaik
     
  14. Icaru506

    Icaru506 Notebook Consultant

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    I always play with VSYNC on, but there's a better way to eliminate tearing ..

    Play on an XBOX 360 Instead :D
     
  15. eleron911

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    Vsync will cap your fps at your refresh rate, 60 in most cases,if your GPU is powerful enough to render 60 fps in all cases.
    @xystus , true not all drivers work well for every system, but a lot of people with different laptops argues as these being among the best :) Otherwise, there`s a whole list of drivers to try.
    For the 8600M GT, @StormEffect mentioned 169.25 a lot :)
     
  16. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Those have now been replaced by Nvidia with the 175.16 drivers as the most current stable release.

    I figure this out by going to Nvidia's website and checking to see what they would offer me, driver-wise, based on the desktop version of the 8600GT.

    So. 175.16.