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    I modified Cat 12.11 b11 and gained 6fps in crysis 1 and vantage went up a few hundred

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by x32993x, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. x32993x

    x32993x Notebook Evangelist

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    I edited cat 12.11 and saw some gains on all games. how do I share it with you guys?
     
  2. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    screenshot your settings or describe what you tweaked? That is the only way I can really think of to share it.
     
  3. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    You "edited" the driver?
     
  4. jaug1337

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    He is a professional hacker, world renowned hacker, everyone knows his works.

    Okay.. jokes a side.

    What do you exactly?
     
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    I'm interested as well. It's not like this is the first time we see you around here.
     
  6. Kyrius

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    Please share your knowledge about this :O
     
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    Well, some1 knowing how to edit drivers, but doesnt nkow where he can upload his driver to be shared, that just seems odd to me, but who nkows :D
     
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    Do tell about the master work ? :3
     
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    Awesome, good work! Now tell us how it is done!
     
  10. x32993x

    x32993x Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried posting it here but my internet explorer froze. its not a complex tweak its similar to tweaking not hacking.

    every card is different and it may not work for your card or it may work wonders.

    install cat 12.11 beta 11 then go to c:/amd/cat 12.11 b11/packages/drivers/display/w86a_inf/(C7150272)

    open the C7150272 setup info file and edit your cards setting by finding the section that entails yours cards settings

    set theater mode to 0
    set ans_def to 0
    aet aa_def to 0
    set noice reduction and block write to 0 or delete the line

    then save

    below the config file is the installer open it and rebbot when the display driver is installed

    also feel free to lower as many settings as possuble except LOD as the other dont impact IQ

    I tweaked it a few times the first time I gained like 200-300 vantage gpu points and crysis went from 57fps to 63.6 fps in the benchmark

    I wont post my file because I don't want the haters to say it doesnt work ect when it does and has to
    ..i guess I could try tweaking it again and post what I tweaked in more depth.

    ps when i did tweak it i opened farcry 3 and could not reaad the text because i accidentely lowered the LOD too much. so I had to start from scratch. and I cant seem to get the performance back. I will however succeed and post it here when its back.
     
  11. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Possible to do the same thing to a nvidia driver?
     
  12. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    So you disabled some visual goodies (reduced settings) and got more FPS....?
     
  13. failwheeldrive

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    That's what it sounds like.
     
  14. x32993x

    x32993x Notebook Evangelist

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    actually something interesting with betas...they dont enable all optimizations but its however possible to activate them if you know what your doing.

    I have great news for win7 ati dudes...I finally tweaked it good this time..I gained an extra 2 fps on top of my old config.

    I have the driver files saved to my desktop in a folder and I would like to share the driver with you guys..my next post will be the x32993x drivers release download link with instructions.

    ps at 833/1060 I scored 15750 in gpu vantage..normally that takes an overclock of 854/1070. pretty RAD ehhh.. :)

    1) download and install cat 12.11b11
    2) download this : c7150272.cat download - 2shared
    C7150272.inf download - 2shared
    C7150272.msi download - 2shared
    3) place files and overwrite in c:/amd/12.11b11/packages/drivers/display/w86a_inf
    4) double click and run C7150272 installer package

    enjoy :)

    ps when using an overclock performance s improved and when play certain games performance is increased, at stock the difference is negligable so dont decide on stock run of vantage to test them out.

    ps I was never able to break 16000 gpu on vantage but im going to try then ill post a pic if my tweak allows it...crossing fingers :)
     
  15. roughavoc

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    I am just going to wait for 13.1 which should 'should' come in the next few days
     
  16. failwheeldrive

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    It's supposed to be coming out today. Keep a look out :)
     
  17. x32993x

    x32993x Notebook Evangelist

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    715/900 stock before i was getting 18fps average heres proof in pictures.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    overclocked im getting 25-30 which is amazing when before tweaks I was averaging 18fps during movement.

    heres A pic of a demanding screen getting 29fps

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Qing Dao

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    Nice man. I feel bad for people who wasted money on 7970m's.

    :wink:
     
  19. failwheeldrive

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    He paid just as much for his 6990m as everyone else did for their 7970ms. I feel bad for those who didn't wait 2 or 3 months to get a laptop with a 7970m.
     
  20. x32993x

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    i got mine in december...should have waited jk

    if i had waited i would not be able to do 3d...p9150 7970m does not work with ddd software because of enduro.

    ps

    im sitting 8 feet back from a 47in 1080p 3d tv passive lg, and run at 720p because 1080p details do not show at this distance as they fade at about 3-4 feet back..so in the end with the dumb route i picked, i get to game maxed out for 3 years vs 1 and get to play all games in 3d.
     
  21. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    It's out, and so is 13.2 Beta. ;)
     
  22. x32993x

    x32993x Notebook Evangelist

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    I just tried 13.2 with far cry 3 and my low at a spot was 16fps with my tweaked drivers it was 20fps and thats a pretty huge percentage increase

    so as it stands

    x32993x 12.11 driver >>>13.2 beta

    edit. I tweak drivers better than most people and no one cares about a 25 percent increase in farcry 3

    the 6990m with stock ati drivers cannot max farcry 3 with my tweaked drivers im averages 28fps which i find perfectly playable
     
  23. failwheeldrive

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    A 7970m would play it at 50-60 instead of 30. Plus you get a backlit keyboard and other goodies. Or you could have gone Alienware, which can game in 3D.

    Jussayin.
     
  24. x32993x

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    I know i was about to order a m18x i cancelled my order though, kinda wish i hadn't...now i wait for 8970m in april...nows the perfect time for you to sell your laptop and get a 8970m when it comes out....then again you could be rich


    jusssayin
     
  25. x32993x

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    completely maxed hangglider action getting like 30fps
    [​IMG]

    maxed is pretty great but these settings below are the best

    [​IMG]

    looks literally identical to maxed but gives an extra 15-20 fps
     
  26. failwheeldrive

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    Not rich, I just have a job :D

    I couldn't wait for the 780m lol. I upgraded to the 3740qm so it shouldn't bottleneck the 780m (too badly at least) when I upgrade.


    jusssayin
     
  27. bignaz

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    Not working for me with Windows8. I replaced the files when i click the .msi it says this is not compatible with the platform of windows im using. Any idea on how to get this to work?
     
  28. x32993x

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    use windows seven or ask me kindly to make you a winows 8 version



    edit I broke 16100 with 862/1060 and before the highest i got was 15750 now with stable gaming overclock and improved performance I can max all games if i turn off AA



    this is higher showing how the drivers make a small difference in vantage.

    however its games that improve, I had to underclock to 600/800 to match cat 13.2 833/1060. thats 233 on the core. thats just it...improve drivers AMD and we wont need to overclock.

    Amd can give us quite a bit more performance but I have no clue as to why they don't

    now I have proof.

    I installed 12.11b11 again and tried farcry 3 and tried getting the lowest framerate I could at a particular spot. heres the pictures showing the gains notice it went from 18 to 20-21 thats like multiplying by 1.15 or 15 percent increase or like overlocking an extra 15 percent from say 25p to 40%p. pretty huge difference.

    if you were getting 30fps now you will be getting 34.5fps which can make it more playable and enjoyable experience.

    now for the pics

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    I did some more tweaking and got an extra frame, I dont think it's possible to get more performance out of this card here is the pic
    [​IMG]
     
  29. bignaz

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    Could you please make me a windows 8 version :) For i am the victim of Microsoft forcing windows 8 on me by not having any windows 7 drivers.
     
  30. x32993x

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    it will not work with trinity based gpus
     
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    That's False, I've been able to use the TriDef 3D (DDD) software for gaming in 3D, I have a Samsung TV with active shutter 3D. The only problem with the enduro setup is that the TriDef software seems to have problems with the HD4000 drivers for outputting the hdmi 1.4 3D signal, yet you can deal with the other output formats like Side by Side, Top & Bottom, Interlaced, etc...
     
  32. ratchetnclank

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    Why don't you play your games instead of posting threads with screenshots and fps all the time?
     
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    Its the same game over and over too :p
    I also wonder if he plays the games @ 20FPS
     
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    No point upgrading to the 7970m, I can max FC3 out at 20fps!!!1!1
     
  35. x32993x

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    you guys are blind.

    thats the lowest fps and only lasts a second during gameplay, it averages 30fps...good enough for me yet you still post things that are personal to me but you make it your interest because you have no L....
     
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    Maybe failwheeldrive and x32993x are alter egos of the same person cursed to battle each other to the death in the only realm where they can both exist as independent beings, the cyberspace.. ;)

    Btw fenryr423, how do you manage to run your 3720qm at 4 GHz? Multiplier + BCLK overclock? :eek:
     
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    Please finish the sentence. The suspense is killing me.
     
  38. x32993x

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    edit. reported

    for the other users with ati cards and from trinity users Im working on a driver tweak from scratch and so far Iv'e gained 200 points in vantage with it, and thats after editing 6/500 commands. so there is hope that you could see a major jump in performance if you guys are (ati users) interested.

    btw its not easy tweaking drivers as they can cause crashing and blue screens if tweaked incorrectly and im no amd programmer. and failwheel drive I really do enjoy your posts please chime in at anytime.

    this is a forum and I don't mind answering peoples questions ect even small arguements can be useful for people not registered nbr users that are reading and analysing the thread.

    so far.

    1) Im working on a ati driver for windows 8/7/vista/xp and all ati users
    2) I dont average 20 fps in farcry 3
    3) I am helpful in this forum
    4) AMD is no good at making drivers so Im fixing their mistakes one at a time aka NPIO doing work for YOU!
     
  39. hfm

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    Are these tweaks that can be made in CCC or only the driver configuration at install time?

    What's the visual quality tradeoff of the tweaks?
     
  40. preview

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    Laffo.

    Don't quit your day job, I guess.
     
  41. hackness

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    Wait, the purpose of those 2 pictures is to show the score from 848MHz vs the score from 859MHz? Or you were saying you got P16320 @ 859/1060 with the new driver instead of getting P15750 @ 859/1060 with the old driver?
     
  42. x32993x

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    I will make a new thread for this...breakthrough in performance just happened this morning. I spent 6 hours tweaking and now look at my results

    with an overclock of 859/1070 i got 15880
    with non tweaked drviers

    with my new tweaked drivers I get better Image quality and insane performance at 848/1060 I get 15960 proof below


    the good news is ive saved the comands that I used to tweak the drivers so now everyone can benefit.

    hold on to your seat its coming

    ps Im off to edit all the files and save the drivers as a zip...does anyone have a better method of giving you guys a download link?

    now how about games?

    before my overclock was 838/1060 from 715/900(stock)

    I got 18fps min stock drivers maxed

    heres 18fps at 715/900 stock



    ps. dont expect amd to better than this anytime soon as im baffled with their config selections
     
  43. hackness

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    You might also want to add the core clock and memory clock to the OSD.
     
  44. x32993x

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    im getting mixed results now

    15848-15964

    amd is messed. somethings not quite right with their drivers why would you get a huge leap one run and nothing the next???
     
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    19 fps is still not really playable, what do you get with overclocking and your driver tweaks?
     
  46. x32993x

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    25-34fps .........
     
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    Am i missing something with the same dry pics of FC3 with ty FPS?
     
  48. x32993x

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    showing you my progress with modding amd driver 12.1,1 confuses you>?
     
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    [​IMG]
    This is crysis 2 running at 30fps. I disabled my webcam and now it runs at 33-35fps.
     

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    Unplug your mouse and use your trackpad, you'll gain 2.4 fps.
     
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