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    I want a 17" laptop with QSXGA or WQXGA resolution.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Homer_Jay_Thompson, May 5, 2007.

  1. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    Do you think 17" laptops should have QSXGA and WQXGA resolution?
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It'll be extremely small, I've only seen 24"+ LCDs with it, and even then...

    On a 17", it won't happen, WUXGA is already rare to find, and of course, they can't cater to everyones requirements.
     
  3. JM

    JM Mr. Misanthrope NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah, it's not going to happen now, or anytime soon, I think. While I'd like to see it happen for those who do many something that big, I don't believe that it will.

    It's too bad for those who want a magnifying glass to read your notebook's screen.

    :p
     
  4. teknerd122

    teknerd122 Notebook Evangelist

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    I want one! I really wanted a 12" laptop, but I can not and WILL NOT stoop to xga or wxga resolution (for this reason I'm contemplating a 12" tablet with sxga+ resolution, even though I neither need nor want the tablet feature). SXGA+ should be the standard for anything smaller than 14" and 15" should come with nothing less than wuxga+. Offer better resolutions, I say!
     
  5. Homer_Jay_Thompson

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    Dell and HP make 15.4" laptops with WUXGA (1900x1200) resolution. Lenovo was supposed to make a 14.1" laptop with WSXGA+ (1680x1050) resolution, but they wimped out. :realmad:
     
  6. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    I don't want to have to use magnifying glasses to view a 2500x1600 17" screen :p
     
  7. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    What about WQUXGA (3840×2400)?
     
  8. RefinedPower

    RefinedPower Notebook Deity

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    well I am not 90 and my eye sight is 20/30 but anything smaller than wsxga on a 15.4 gives me a headache.
     
  9. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    And it's not worth it catering to a small niche market, which is why it's hard to find. And it may not even be an option, though 3rd party companies may.
     
  10. Joga

    Joga Notebook Evangelist

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    Heck, WUXGA is way too much for a 17". WSXGA (1680x1050) is a nice balanced resolution for a 17" screen. I'm certainly not 90, but why do people want higher resolutions for such tiny screens? In the desktop world, WUXGA is reserved for 24" LCD's, and WSXGA is only found in 20"-22" screens.
     
  11. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    Business productivity, gaming. You can fit more windows side-by-side on a widescreen, high resolution display. You can also make games more realistic and detailed by switching to higher resolutions.

    You're right on there. I've always found it kind of odd, but then I also guess that laptops are supposed to be mobile, so the extra real estate has to fit onto a smaller screen.
     
  12. Homer_Jay_Thompson

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    I will not buy a 15.4" or 17" laptop with anything less than WUXGA.
     
  13. Stevenj

    Stevenj Notebook Consultant

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    Even my wuxga is straining my eyes from time to time. I view the screen from half meter away, the res you want would kill ur eyes.
     
  14. Homer_Jay_Thompson

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    If it bothers me, I will just change the zoom. :)
     
  15. hinges

    hinges Notebook Enthusiast

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    WQXGA on a 17" notebook would be fantastic, and if a company released a 17" WQXGA notebook with Santa Rosa and DX10 tomorrow, I would sell one of my kidneys to get it.

    I don't understand people who dislike hi-res screens. Fonts, icons, and those sort of things are easily enlarged. By limiting yourself to a low resolution, you are swapping out the smooth curves availiable with high resolution (i.e. bigger) fonts and images for jagged pixels on smaller equivalents.

    The only sensible argument for low res screens is cost. Screens with high pixel densities are expensive, and also require more processing power to drive - which just means you have to buy better hardware.

    Now, a lot of gamers would read this and think "2560x1600! That'd look great... but what kind of laptop will run that?" Infact, I would have to agree, 4 Megapixels (at 30fps, that's 120000000 pixels per second) is too much to ask of a notebook. But, by virtue of being such a high resolution, WQXGA offers us another option: WXGA.

    WQXGA is equivalent to four WXGA screens tiled*. Which means that a WQXGA screen can show WXGA by just grouping it's pixels into sets of four. The result: a perfect WXGA screen with no distortion.

    Many gamers will attest that as graphics in games rely heavily on special effects like lighting, particles, reflections and shaders; sacrificing resolution for effects can usually increase visual quality. This is why it is often best to get a low resolution on a gaming laptop, as it is unlikely to be able to run future games at a high resolution with full detail. Thus a WQXGA screen offers an excellent combination of a common and acceptable gaming resolution and a gorgeous high resolution for use on the desktop.

    This flexibility does exist with current hi-res notebook screens, as 1920x1200 can show a pixel-perfect 960x600, but this resolution is a little too low for many (myself included), and isn't always supported. Additionally, all notebooks will support the scaling of lower resolutions to fit the screen, but the picture this produces is ugly (try doing it and see what happens to nice crisp text).

    *WQXGA stands for Wide Quad eXtended Graphics Array. XGA, by convention, refers to a resolution of 1024x768, and WXGA is used to refer to 1280x800, 1280x768, 1280x720 in PC monitors (and even more strangely; 1366x768 or 1360x768 in HDTVs, but don't get me started on those). 1280x800 is the most "standard" of these, being at a familiar 16:10 ratio. Thus WQXGA is defined as four times 1280x800, which gives us 2560x1600.
     
  16. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    I had a 17" WUXGA notebook once. It was really nice in games...but text could be rather small at times.

    I used to really love my WSXGA+ on the 15.4" I have now. But ever since I started using a 22" external at WXGA for my shop's system (IGP so WSXGA+ is not an option), even that can seem too small for me :).

    For gaming though...and if the GPU could handle demanding games at those resolutions with good performance...I'd love it.
     
  17. Ref

    Ref Notebook Geek

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    after getting a 15.4" WUXGA (and loving it) I have one thing to say: Give me the option of a nice quality 17" WQXGA screen on a laptop and I'll buy it. I'd also consider a 15.4" WQXGA screen but I would prefer to see one first to make sure I can handle it. 15.4" WUXGA is absolutely no problem - actually it feels "perfect".