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    I'd like to undervolt my 1070MXM and I want to know which utility is best

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ChanceJackson, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. ChanceJackson

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    In the past I have used MSI Afterburner and the Asus tweak tool to OC my Rad HD 7850 but I want to know which tweaking tool is best for pascal.
     
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    I am not entirely certain, but I think that people who tried undervolting Pascal series ended up also underclocking the GPU because the clocks are tied to the voltages.
    In such a scenario, I don't know if its doable to undervolt without actually dropping clock speeds on Pascal as well (though, usually, undervolting means simply to drop power fed to the GPU on specific clocks without changing them).

    Here's something I was able to find:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/6e9iq9/psa_undervolting_or_highly_overclocking_your/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/57koqx/undervolting_pascal_for_those_with/
     
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    Thanks, reading up now
     
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    You are correct. Undervolting drops clocks and impairs performance on Pascal. It is a pretty sad engineering stunt by the Green Goblin. It makes proper tuning almost impossible, and signed firmware requirements are essentially ruining everything for most. I understand that Team Red has pulled the same Retarded Nazi move with their GPU firmware cancer filth as well. The more the idiots of the world embrace BGA filth, consoles and smartphones as legitimate options the worse this control freak nonsense is going to get.
     
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    I've decided on undervolting my cpu instead
     
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    @OWNORDISOWN has a video on youtube on how to UV gpu on notebooks.
     
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    Hey have you tried liquid metal on your gpu? Ive gotten great results on the zotac 1070 mxm. Just gotta be brave and have steady hands.
     
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    No I'm using Geil Extreme and i have been pretty happy with its performance. The only reason I was looking into undervolting was because GTA 5 was causing my CPU and GPU to pull so much power that my laptop was hitting some kind of limit that was causing my cpu clocks to drop clock to 800mhz whenever the CPU got close to 44watts
     
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    Have you already tried ThrottleStop to avoid the CPU throttling?
     
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    I had not, to be honest perhaps I should give it a try though
     
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    throttlestop kept my cpu from throttling. nothing else works like it. maybe it's a board limitation but id say its more likely that throttlestop may fix your issue.
     
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    I assumed it was a board limitation since hp probably never intended that I be using such a powerful mxm-b card in a slot only intended for mxm-a

    I'll have to give throttlestop a try this weekend
     
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    It might be a problem with the power supply instead because the brick might be designed for a specific limit and you might need a more powerful one instead.

    I'd suggest you focus on undervolting the CPU instead.
     
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    In this case I'm using a 350w psu with mobile optimized parts so I don't think it's the brick, that said I needed to create an adapter so that my laptop would use the psu and with that adapter I configured the smart pin to emulate a 200w psu because that all I had to base off and since my laptop routinely went over 200w anyways I figured it was fine
     
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    Undervolting and overclocking are so tightly tied together now. We have lost the control. TDP is king and God Forbid you try to exceed it when you know what you're doing.

    Unfortunately it's a losing battle. No way a small percentage of people can make the difference to convince the rest of the world looking for thin and light and disposable machines to opt for modular systems. I still don't get why BGA needs to be mutually exclusive from manual control of performance. It shouldn't be.
     
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    As far as I know, Thermal/TDP throttling to low speeds is less preferable to undervolting. If you're going for the tip top benchmark scores where clockspeed is all that matters and you keep it cool enough it probably doesn't make much difference, but too many people (especially ASUS GLx02VS users) have found that stock performance = mid 1500MHz on GPU, and undervolting gets them over 1700MHz constantly with both much improved performance and reduced temperatures.

    So, I would consider undervolting the GPU if it's getting way too hot or whatever. Probably will help if you get a good curve.
     
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